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How 'bout dem Gophers, eh?

I keep forgetting that Nebraska is no longer your father's Nebraska...

Not surprised at all.


Though, I did notice that everyone who picked this game in the pick'em... took Nebraska



My comments... from well over a month ago

M2 wrote:The best teams I've seen from the BG1... are Ohio State and Minnesota.

They shit the bed a couple of times... but, they're starting to put it together again, now that Kill isn't on the sidelines.

Truman wrote:I keep forgetting that Nebraska is no longer your father's Nebraska...

i don't. they fucked up. no one cares about Nebraska in the Chicago Big 10 media.

they used to be Kings.

goodbye bugeaters.

Who did you have in the Pick 'Em, 2oolio?

RACK the Goofers.

Everything is coming together nicely. :)

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:How 'bout dem Gophers, eh?

Pretty sure Bo is gone. They're just biding their time. I had very high hopes for Pelini, but this game was the last straw. Minnesota did nothing different than Wisky did to us in the B1G CG. They ran 4 basic plays up the middle and this genius couldn't do anything to stop it. Actually, I do know why. He's not the DC. It's like he can't communicate to his coaches what he wants them to teach the players. He stands right next to Papuchis, our DC, on the sideline, and I don't know how he went from a guy who was excellent at stopping this type of offense to one that can't adjust to this type of offense. Minnesota had so many passes they dropped that could have made the score uglier.

Some BP apologists are saying that if NU fires another 9-win coach, then we'd be screwed trying to find a better one. I disagree. Unlike the Solich era, Bo has had zero conference championships, zero BCS bowl appearances, games where his on-the-field antics cost the team a win (at least one game this happened), at least one game a year lost to an unranked team while NU is ranked, 12 double-digit losses in his tenure, zero top 10 finishes, and the list could go on.

I'm now suddenly worried that NU will lose the remaining games on their schedule. Minnesota is not a good team, but they made our supposed superior athletes look soft. Guys on the D line were pushed around by their O line. Their second-string running back suddenly looked like all-conference. Our linebackers look lost and often go through the wrong gaps so they're usually out of place. TM shouldn't have started. He has two broken toes on his foot. It was obvious from the first series he had no business starting. NU averaged over 6 yards a run, including the sack yardage deducted. The passing game they averaged less than 5 yards a catch. They passed it 30 times. W.T.F???

there are pelini apologists?

i get the firing a 9 win guy argument....but that's more about the next hire than an actual defense of Bo.

i think NU is sort of stuck. they need some kind of offensive identity that isn't Martinez...and Pelini for all his street cred hasn't been a miracle worker on D. he coached the OU d backs for the dry fuck Lionert and company gave OU for the BCS. he's got better athletes than the gravy running Cosgrove lb's and db's that Callahan had....and that's good...but NU don't seem to shut people down like the blackshirts ought to.

hard to point to anything that makes Bo so great. unless winning 9 games is going to fly in Lincoln and we know it aint.

At Large wrote: Some BP apologists are saying that if NU fires another 9-win coach, then we'd be screwed trying to find a better one.

Yeah, I'm sure no one would want the job of HC at Nebraska. No history, no winning tradition, no fanbase, no boosters.

Dinsdale wrote:

At Large wrote: Some BP apologists are saying that if NU fires another 9-win coach, then we'd be screwed trying to find a better one.

Yeah, I'm sure no one would want the job of HC at Nebraska. No history, no winning tradition, no fanbase, no boosters.

Rack it! Although Scott Frost is not the answer at this time, we need a guy with fire... a competitor who wants to win and will strive for that. Pelini is always on his heels, apologizing for this and that but never gets the job done or improves nor motivates his team. He's a D coordinator somewhere but has proven he can't take a program to the top.

Sad days in Huskerland. But, there's always next year. I suspect Pelini's fate will hinge on the results of the next few games. We beat Michigan and MSU.... he gets another year to develop all those young athletes. He loses 2 to 3 more and he gets the axe. We shall see.

Whoawhoawhoa.

Nuff with the Scott Frost stuff. Had too many OCs "stolen" over the years. I think LSU might have won a MNC with one or something.

Is there a shortage of folks who would gladly take the Husker's job? Hell no.

Could they pull a top HC from another program today like they could have done a decade ago? Prolly not.

Is there a better coach out there than Bo? Most likely, but there are 100 times more guys who are the same or worse than him. And therein lies the problem. You don't make a change at a place like Nebraska just for the sake of making a change. That is for lower level programs that are grasping at straws. A program of Nebraska's level can only make a change if they know they can get a better coach. They didn't get any better when hiring Bo. In fact they got worse as At Large points out Bo has no titles or BCS games.

What would the list of candidates look like today if you had to put a list together? Here's hoping for NU fan that those names would be completely outside of the NU family. That history and legacy can be a huge magnet for those returning to the program, while at the same time preventing them from doing what might be best for the program. By that I mean that those guys could think they need to do things the way they used to be done cause that is what brought Nebraska success in the past. The blackshirt is a great tradition, but maybe it is time to retire it for awhile. Right now it means nothing given how soft the NU defense is at times. See ATM and their continued used of Wrecking Crew. What says wrecking crew better than giving up damn near 30 points and a 175 yard rusher at home against an FCS team?

Left Seater wrote: They didn't get any better when hiring Bo. In fact they got worse as At Large points out Bo has no titles or BCS games.

I think you are forgetting the Callahan years. With that as a barometer, Bo meets those qualifications. Regardless of his sins, he sometimes wins the games they should win. He's not better than Solich at this point.

King Crimson wrote:there are pelini apologists?

i get the firing a 9 win guy argument....but that's more about the next hire than an actual defense of Bo.

i think NU is sort of stuck. they need some kind of offensive identity that isn't Martinez...and Pelini for all his street cred hasn't been a miracle worker on D. he coached the OU d backs for the dry fuck Lionert and company gave OU for the BCS. he's got better athletes than the gravy running Cosgrove lb's and db's that Callahan had....and that's good...but NU don't seem to shut people down like the blackshirts ought to.

hard to point to anything that makes Bo so great. unless winning 9 games is going to fly in Lincoln and we know it aint.

Yes, there are apologists. They overlook all of those sins for a few reasons:
1. Osborne picked him.
2. His past history as a DC/NFL assistant
3. His fiery demeanor.

To these usually much older fans, it invokes images of Devaney, Woody Hayes, Schembeckler (sp?), etc. They keep forgetting that this is not 40 years ago. A HC today needs to be smarter than that. He needs to know that screaming at players on the sideline and getting unsportsmanlike penalties for yelling at the officials is NOT how you want to base your persona around. It shows you have low self control and poor perception on how people see you. I think he's figured a lot of that out, but it seems that as Bo's gotten less intense, so have his teams. Minn pushed our D around. That's not acceptable at any time given NU's history.

He does seem like's he's trying to figure things out as a HC, but I don't think he's going to find the answers.

I could be wrong, though. I was all about to give up on this season, but suddenly, they've decided that certain players are moving into different spots on defense: spots people thought they should be playing all along. Armstrong is probably going to start at QB next game. While a RSF, the team seemed to play with a lot more intensity the last 3 games. It was noticeably lacking against Minn. I think they knew Martinez shouldn't have been out there. We were told turf toe as his injury. Turns out he has 2 broken toes. I guess he said he was ready, but if I'm a coach and my player with broken toes says he's ready to play, I'm going to have him do some specific drills (like a shuttle run) to see if he can make all sorts of quick moves without wincing or timidity.