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Re: Well -
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:52 pm
by Carson
Sucks to be you.
You missed FSU curb-stomping the Feigns.
Sorry, SS, but FSU has more quality wins than bama now and should be #1.
Re: Well -
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:24 pm
by campinfool
If FSU was in the SEC the MNC game would be FSU v FSU practice squad.
Re: Well -
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:08 pm
by L45B
campinfool wrote:If FSU was in the SEC, then Ole Miss and Tennessee would break into the Top 25 just for playing them.
ftfy
Re: Well -
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:26 pm
by Left Seater
Bama's D is just a little better than any Ds that FSU has seen.
Based on what? ATM is the closest offense to FSU that 'Bama has seen and that didn't go so well. The best their D has performed is prolly against Ole Miss.
I am not saying Bama wouldn't beat FSU, I just don't see how you can say that as if it were fact.
Re: Well -
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:20 pm
by Left Seater
Sudden Sam wrote:
There have been changes in the defensive backfield that have really made a difference. Now if Mettenberger has another career game (like last year), I'll be eating crow, but I don't think a freshman QB (FSU's Winston), even though he plays like a veteran, would be able to handle what Bama would throw at him. He'd have little running game to help him and Smart and Saban would make him look like um...a freshman.
I just don't understand how you seem to drop these lines like they are fact. What makes you think FSU wouldn't be able to run the ball at all? They rank 27 in the country in rushing one place and one yard per game behind...'Bama.
Meanwhile their passing offense is 9th in the country. In fact I would think FSU would prefer the teams blitz them. According to ESPN.com:
Jameis Winston completed 9-of-11 passes for 147 yards against five or more pass rushers Saturday. In two games against top-10 teams this season (Clemson and Miami), Winston is 19-of-25 for 416 yards against the blitz. Entering Saturday, Winston ranked in the top three among BCS AQ quarterbacks in completion percentage, yards per attempt and touchdowns when passing against the blitz (min. 30 attempts).
Again, I am not saying Bama wouldn't beat FSU if they played, I just don't get your where you think these thoughts are fact.
Re: Well -
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:46 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:FSU has played virtually nobody. Same goes for Alabama. So it's all conjecture. Hard to say. But having seen so many different offenses grind to a halt against Alabama, I'd suggest that FSU's would become something less than it's been against the level of competition they've met so far.
And Bama's high-school offense has faced a defense as good as FSU's, and might not be as productive as it has been against Weathervane University?
SECnology at its finest.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:23 am
by Dinsdale
Bama offense = Mediocre
Oregon offense = Jawdropping
Anything else I can help you with?
You're on a roll.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:35 am
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
Always...'til they play an SEC team.
I think Oregon and Bama have a common opponent... how'd that work out?
Or Stanford.
Furd doesn't quite have the outside guys they have in previous years. And Gardner, who's such an animal against inside runs (and not bad slowing down outside runs) is out for them. And Stanford isn't as good this year. Ducks win, going away. Be a good game for a half, then they wear down, and Oregon is gboing to want to make a statement.
Of course, in SECnology, this means Stanford sucks. If it were SEC teams, it means the #8 team in the conference is super-awesome.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:16 am
by Dinsdale
Papa Willie wrote:
Then again, I got two cocksucking picks right this past weekend.
If you look at my overall season, it's obvious I'm trolling when I make any sort of prediction.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:40 pm
by L45B
Sudden Sam wrote:Obviously I meant a good SEC team. LSU, Auburn, surely you remember?
Ha, I guess you couldn't use South Carolina for your argument here, even though your media has them ranked higher than LSU. But since they lost to UTK, you can conveniently pull a couple other teams outta the hat. ESPN has taught you well.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:13 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
The Ducks beat UT by 45. Bama beat 'em by 35. We called off the hounds early 3rd quarter. How about Oregon?
Do you even follow football?
Oregon has become pretty well known for having the starters out after about the first series in the 3rd.
In 21 career games, Mariota has seen 4th quarter action in 4 of them.
But Oregon has "bad defense" because the scout team D gives up a garbage time TD to the other team's starters... makes sense to me.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:07 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Now Dins is arguing transitive property? Say it ain't so.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:20 pm
by Dinsdale
Not at all.
A fan of the Stupid Eeeeeediot Conference once again made a reference to Oregon playing against SEC teams. Their memory is very selective when it comes to such things.
I was merely pointing out that not only did they recently play a SEC team, they had an easier time with them than Bama did.
In case SECSam was wondering, Oregon is 4-5 all time against the SEC, 4-2 over the last 2 decades (last 4 decades, actually).
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:39 pm
by Dinsdale
Yes, in those games, the Ducks lost to what were, at the times, the best teams in the country. I seem to remember Bama losing to both of them in the same seasons.
Looks like Bama loses "every time they play a good SEC team," too. Hey, it's your logic, not mine. It's fucking stupid, but it's how you choose to roll, for some odd reason.
Re: Well -
Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:25 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Yes, in those games, the Ducks lost to what were, at the times, the best teams in the country. I seem to remember Bama losing to both of them in the same seasons.
Looks like Bama loses "every time they play a good SEC team," too. Hey, it's your logic, not mine. It's fucking stupid, but it's how you choose to roll, for some odd reason.
You're better than this.
Cut your losses.
You're right. If Mariota wouldn't have thrown all those picks against Auburn and LSU, things might have been different. If Addison had only stayed in bounds. If Patterson and Ekpre-Olomu would have just covered recievers better. If they just could have made that crucial tackle on Bo Jackson...
Are you serious? Didn't realize CFB was using time machines these days.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:27 am
by War Wagon
Sudden Sam wrote:The only SEC teams I think could beat or hang with Oregon this year are Alabama and Texas A&M.
ATM plays their last regular season game at Mizzou on 11/30.
If aTm loses, and I think they will, what will you be saying then?
I know what you'll be
saying, err praying, as only an atheist could, down on your knees...
"
Dear God that I don't believe in, pleeeaze don't let 'bama lose to Mizzou in the SEC title game"
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:52 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
All I said was when Oregon playes the dregs of the SEC, they win. When they play the quality teams, they lose.
You should buy some stock in Enron - I hear it really skyrocketed.
Man, Bama should thank their lucky stars they didn't have to play Nebraska this season -- I hear that Tommy Frazier guy is an animal.
Do you SECnologists realize how silly you sound? The past is an absolute predictor of the future... unless it doesn't suit your "argument" at the moment, then it doesn't matter.
"Oregon can't beat a quality SEC team!"
So, this obviously means USC would fucking curb-stomp Bama, right, since Bama has been feeble against them in the last couple of decades? Or does the time machine only work one direction?
Why even play the games? Let's just hand Harvard the trophy every year and be done with it.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by Dinsdale
Maybe you should go back and reread -- I brought those points up to counter your stupid arguments.
And if what happened in the past has no bearing on this season, then why did you bring it up time and time again?
YOU made points (bad ones, in stark contrast to what you spouted above). I made counterpoints.
And to answer your question -- I have no idea what this thread is about, so I'll go back to the days when Tennessee was good, and post a pic of a rabbit with a pancake on its head.
![Image](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hX-SCm8FY6A/Tc2c8ySyOOI/AAAAAAAAAPE/S6-t7EKQm8w/s1600/rabbit.jpg)
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Bama would shit-hammer Oregon. Just one man's impartial view.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:46 pm
by Goober McTuber
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Bama would shit-hammer Oregon. Just one man's impartial view.
You mean this year?
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:55 pm
by Dinsdale
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Bama would shit-hammer Oregon. Just one man's impartial view.
Last year, probably.
This year? I don't think so. Neither do the Vegas oddsmakers, who have the hypothetical game (not sure why they bother with the hypotheticals, but the local radio hacks have them on once a week) have Bama -3.
And BTW, they have Oregon -7 vs FSU.
Again, seems a pointless exercise to me, but makes for good messageboard fodder.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:58 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
What's the local chatter on whether Mariota stays for another year or leaves for the NFL? Wouldn't mind seeing that guy bolt before MSU has to travel to Eugene, especially since they're going to lose half their starters on D and likely their defensive coordinator.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:00 pm
by Dinsdale
I'll add (for fodder's sake) that Bama has played against one real offense... that has a dynamic QB, ne great reciever, and no running game.
Oregon brings a similar QB, 4 recievers, and a vicious running game.
Conversely, Oregon hasn't seen the likes of Bama's defense. UCLA brings every bit of the LB corps, but not the same front, and likely not as strong a secondary. Thursday will be a great test, against a potent D line/front 7 (missing their best player, but shit happens), and a questionable secondary.
Let's get it on.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:00 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Shit, I thought Mariota was a JR for some reason. RS Soph? Seems like dude's been there forever already.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:17 pm
by Dinsdale
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:What's the local chatter on whether Mariota stays for another year or leaves for the NFL?
You think dude who never ever talks about himself has given even a hint?
Since people are talking about him being a top 10 pick, I'd put the odds of him staying around zero... but he's an odd one, and could be the permanent Mayor of Oregon if he stayed on.
Remember, he's the guy who got Johnny Football to move on to greener pastures.
While the backups are no Mariota, Lockie and Rodriguez have at least got plenty of snaps this year (combined, probably damn near as many as Mariota).
Lately, Oregon has had a nice mix of different years of players, from Freshmen up to Seniors, so the continuity looks good.
Love to see some crazy 5 star QB show up next spring, though. But Rodriguez will do fine.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:20 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
They run 6 RBs in the rotation. All but one of whom would start most anywhere else.
I can think of one team where they would only get in at garbage time.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:43 pm
by Goober McTuber
Dinsdale wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
They run 6 RBs in the rotation. All but one of whom would start most anywhere else.
I can think of one team where they would only get in at garbage time.
I didn't think you paid that much attention to Wisconsin football.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:47 pm
by Dinsdale
Oregon is in the same RB boat (take a look at NFL rosters, and it's gone on a while). Seems odd a team (Bama or U of O) would keep getting crazypsycho RBs when they have to compete with so many other talents (then again, some bolt for Baylor and declare themselves Heisman candidates, even though they were #5 at their former school).
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:13 pm
by M2
Oregon would ass-rape Alabama.
I noticed the first chink in the armor for bama when they played a horrible VT team at the start of the season.
Then they gave up 42 points to a team that really only has one decent player on offense (no herman munster) at wide receiver doesn't count.
The clincher was when bama had to play a real team (Colorado State 4-5)... and needed that "special" officiating (that SEC teams get when they think their MNC team may lose a game) to pull away in the 4th.
Remember, it was 17-6 bama in the 4th quarter against this powerhouse (at home).
I think bama could hang for a half or less... then for the last 30 minutes they'll have their hands on their knees gasping for air.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:18 pm
by Left Seater
M2 wrote:Oregon would ass-rape Alabama.
I think bama could hang for a half or less... then for the last 30 minutes they'll have their hands on their knees gasping for air.
So you are saying that they would do far better than Cal. Remember Cal shutout Oregon over the last 25 minutes of that game and the Cal offense outscored the Oregon offense in the 2nd half. In your world that is a win, so since Bama could also hang for a half that too would be a win. No?
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:30 pm
by Dinsdale
I'm thinking that Bama has enough depth on defense that they won't be sucking wind to the level of, say, Cal.
I think they actually have a decent defensive player or two or three on their roster, but I could be wrong.
Should that game play out (lots of ball between now and then), I don't think anyone is going to be raping anyone's poopyhole.
Re: Well -
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:43 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:I wonder if Oregon's Texas RB pipeline will dry up after all the crap that went on.
Got some Texas kids since parting ways with Lyles. Seastrunk was the last of the tainted recruits, and he's long gone.
Re: Well -
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:49 am
by War Wagon
Sudden Sam wrote:I don't think Mizzou will win the East.
You've said that before but pray tell now, how have you reached this conclusion?
Obviously, you must think SCL is going to win out, and they probably will. So that means Mizzou has to lose at least one of their 3 remaining games.
@ Kentucky
@ Ole Miss
or aTm at home
I say they win out. That loss in 2 OT's to SCL was a fluke, a gift... one that won't be repeated.
See you in Atlanta on Pearl Harbor day, master Samwise.
Re: Well -
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:34 pm
by Killian
M2 wrote:Oregon would ass-rape Alabama.
You should really just shut the fuck up.
noncalaluM2 wrote:
Notre Dame (the most overrated #1 team I can remember) will show just how bad the SEC is when they beat Alabama tonight.
Re: Well -
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:55 pm
by L45B
They, and everyone else, can beat up on a down Tennessee program.
I just can't help myself. Everyone else,
except South Carolina, that is. Ya know, the same team that is 7-2 and ranked #12 right now.
Ahead of teams like Oklahoma St (7-1), Michigan St (8-1), UCLA (6-2) and Notre Dame (7-2). Why?
There's only one reason.
Re: Well -
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:25 pm
by Truman
Sudden Sam wrote:I don't think Mizzou will win the East, but, if they do, and if Bama wins the West, I would have no fear at all about playing the Tigers for the championship.
...and I've watched Bammer play all season, and since past MNC's approximate to just about zip
this season, I'm not sure why you all would be of much concern to us either. Our D-Line is better than yours, and we actually score points on schools without a directional in their names. Y'all are livin' large on reputation, Sammy, and that's about it.
Re: Well -
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:04 pm
by Dinsdale
Truman wrote:Y'all are livin' large on reputation, Sammy, and that's about it.
BAD SEC Fan!!!!
I know you're new and all, but kindly get with the program.
SECnology - If last year's stats support your team being ranked high, they're the end-all, be-all. If they don't support whatever argument you're currently drooling, then they are meaningless.
It's kind of like M2, only with less drugs and more inbreeding.
Repeat after me - "Oregon can't beat a
quality SEC team." (Remember, SECnology dictates that the dumber your argument, the more qualifiers you use.) Then, if someone points out that the current crop of Oregon players largely haven't seen a "quality" SEC team, then you quickly change the subject. Or even point out how Auburn's so-so defense held Oregon to 19, which speaks to the quality of even bad SEC defenses... and if someone points out how Oregon's "juggernaut" defense (wasn't good that year) held Auburn to half of their season average (and less than Bama), once again, toss out a bunch of qualifiers and change the subject.
You really need to work on this SEC thing, Tru.
And BTW -- a good start would be to use the word "jealous" as much as possible.
Re: Well -
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:47 am
by War Wagon
Dinsdale wrote:Truman wrote:Y'all are livin' large on reputation, Sammy, and that's about it.
BAD SEC Fan!!!!
I laffed at this, hard.
I know you're new and all, but kindly get with the program.
I don't speak for Tru, but there's a lot of old school Mizzou fans who weren't and probably never will be down with the move to the SEC. Hell, we still mourn the demise of the Big 8 and bringing in the Texas schools.
That said, we are where we are and must make the best of it. However, you'll never see this Tigers fan get with said program.
Re: Well -
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:57 am
by War Wagon
L45B wrote:They, and everyone else, can beat up on a down Tennessee program.
Everyone else,
except South Carolina, that is.
I was going to point that out as well but decided rubbing salt in my own wound wasn't a good idea.
So I let someone else do it because I knew someone else most certainly would.
Re: Well -
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:53 am
by Truman
Dinsdale wrote:You really need to work on this SEC thing, Tru.
Not so much, Dins.
Willie keeps trying to convince us that the Barners are relevant, even though they haven't played a single game outside the Confederacy, much less the Central Time Zone. And Sam is just a ball-sucking idiot.
Just so you know: Any win middle-o'-the-XII Mizzou manages to scratch out in this league is just 'cuz everybody else is in the conference is in the hospital. Never mind that all those SEC 5-stars are supposed to go 3-deep.
OU is gonna get their shit pushed in tonight - same as AU, AU, LSU, and aTm would at Floyd Casey.