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Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:50 pm
by Mikey
Go 'Cats.
That's all.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:49 pm
by Dinsdale
And I thought the coaching/playcalling sucked against Stanford.
The defense fucking stinks -- gets worse every week. Hard to pass against Oregon, but why bother when you can run at will?
Helfrich, Frost, and Alioti can go fuck themselves. Did it ever occur to anyone to go over basic tackling?
A couple of the "team leaders" this week suggested that playing in the Rose Bowl was "no big deal, been there, done that" (DAT and Josh Huff)... then they went and and backed up their statements.
San Antonio, here we come.
Maybe time to rethink that 3-4 thing?
Embarrassing.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:51 pm
by Mikey
It's a fucking meat grinder. Still need to win the PAC 12 $$ game.
The second string offense is in. If you thought the first string was boring...
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:55 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey wrote:It's a fucking meat grinder.
PAC really is all kinds of solid the year.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:15 am
by Mikey
Who would have thunk a two loss team would win the north. These teams just love to beat on each other.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:39 am
by Dinsdale
schmick wrote:And USC isn't a good team
Uhm, yes they are.
But getting USC back at full strength will make the CoC a crazy place to play.
Fuggin meatgrinder.
Wazzu is bowl-eligible-BTW.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:55 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
So is the whole "Oregon thing" finally over with? It's about time.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:00 am
by Dinsdale
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:So is the whole "Oregon thing" finally over with? It's about time.
It's about time to do some serious rethinking about the defense. It isn't for lack of talent -- with all of the accolades for the offense, there's way more Ducks playing D in the pros than offense.
The defensive schemes are idiotic. Every team has off days on offense, but there's no excuse for not being able to do basic defensive stuff like... tackling, filling gaps, and those little things.
Maybe time to bring in someone who understands this. Not like there isn't resources to hire whoever they want. The loyalty thing to the 20+ year employess is a nice story, but when they don't get it done... time to move on.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:05 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
I'm just being an ass.
It seems like these high powered offenses don't produce good defenses in practice.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:09 am
by Dinsdale
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
It seems like these high powered offenses don't produce good defenses in practice.
What was mindboggling, was that Zona basically runs a poor-man's Oregon offense... and the defense was rendered helpless against it?
Heads need to roll.
Or, just keep running a midget between the tackles, and go with a 3 man front when the opposing offense is pounding the rock... they'll never expect it.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:46 pm
by Python
Severe SEC bias got Oregon once again. Or maybe Oregon was just overated, once again, and they're getting exposed, once again.
Nah, can't be that.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:53 pm
by Python
SEC! SEC!
Did I do that right?
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:17 pm
by Dinsdale
The wet moose walks backwards after midnight?
I'll help you out a bit... see, it's everyone else's job to make SECBSH look stupid (usually not too difficult). When you guys do it yourselves, it kind of takes the fun out of it.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:47 pm
by Python
Dinsdale wrote:
I'll help you out a bit... see, it's everyone else's job to make SECBSH look stupid (usually not too difficult). When you guys do it yourselves, it kind of takes the fun out of it.
That's it? That's all you have? Every single season you hype Oregon to no end and it's alwasy the same result. They lose and you'll spend the off season claiming "severe SEC bias". And yes, I'll never stop using that phrase because it was the dumbest thing you've ever (repeatedly) said. Look, you need to learn to be objective about your team. Remember the thread where everyone gave their prediction of how their team will do? At least I took an honest look and said 2-3 losses and a medicore bowl. You should learn from this SEC homer.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:55 pm
by Dinsdale
Where have I ever said SEC bias has had anything to do with Oregon's fate, ever?
Take your time.
And if you can't recognize the SEC bias... then refer to my previous post.
10-2 in the championship game... spin that however you like, but it's pretty obvious. Weird how it started after a billion dollar TV contract, eh?
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:00 pm
by King Crimson
no one really liked Helfrich when he was Dan Hawkins first OC at Colorado. i mean, he inherited a bad situation with no QB's and people thought he was a young mind in the game.....but, his offenses were horrible to watch.
how he goes from that to HC at one of the big shiny money programs was a little iffy to me.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:19 pm
by Dinsdale
So, the local/regional fanbase for the most part is of the same mind as me.
Pitchforks and torches.
Helfrich's lack of motivational abilities, and Aliotti's entite philosophy.
The former is valid. Going into a quality team's building on a Thursday, a favorite doesn't just need to be prepared. They need to show up with SWAGGER. That team doesn't belong on the same field as you, and you should be offended that they're insulting you by taking the field (sup Bama).
The latter -- the "bend-then-break-if-they're-big-and-strong" philosophy is idiotic. He teaches stupidity, in that they stand their ground and react to the offense... very effective if you're bigger and stronger than the opposing OLine. If not, you're back on your heels getting knocked backwards, and the oposing RB is going career. Get the fuck off the line, then get off your fucking block and make a play.
The offense is fine... but fucking RUN IT. It's called "The Blur," not the "Maybe." Go 3-and-out and lose 4? So freaking what... keep at it... it's been proven to work, if they let it. Or coach something else. Putting everything into one scheme then going away from it when any resistance is plum stupid. Those opposing DC's get paid for a reason. It's about outrunning and outlasting them, not some grand strategic superiority.
Whooooole lotta anger and disappointment around here.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:17 am
by Dinsdale
Papa Willie wrote:Kinda weird how the obvious job of the SEC is to destroy the lives of those who don't have teams in their conference.
Absolutely horrific example os SECBSHism.
SECBSH
should be a SECBSH. No problem there.
But when there's a TV contract (or two) that influences those who make decisions, it's an issue.
Do the PAC, B1G, or even B12 schedule cupcakes to rest players and get them healthy in week 12?
I don't have a problem with SECBSH SECBSHing, at all. But when they start projecting on everyone else, when they refuse to play by the same rules as everyone else, yeah, I have a problem with it.
How do those computer numbers look if you played anyone on the road OOC (sup Tennessee), or if the biggest league actually played 9 league games?
Play by the rules.
Re: Oregon.
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:24 am
by R-Jack
Dinsdale wrote:
Do the PAC, B1G, or even B12 schedule cupcakes to rest players and get them healthy in week 12?
The PAC does, but Cal is in conference, so whaddaya gonna do?