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If it wasn't for JaWalrus Russell, Ro McLain would have been THE biggest Raider draft disappointment over a horrible 10 year stretch.
That's how shitty he was.

He's obviously got major issues as a human being, but even more stunning were the issues he had on the field.
The guy was nearly universally regarded as an excellent NFL prospect.
But with the Raiders, he was slow, lacking punch with his hits, and often out of position.

Slowlando.
It was almost unbelievable how slow he looked at times.

Inside backers need to fire toward the ball and attack, but this 'tard was often seen just kind of jogging out on the field.
It was actually a little bit comical.


Garbage.

poptart wrote:The guy was nearly universally regarded as an excellent NFL prospect.

I told you he was a stupid pick at the time. You should have kept Kirk Morrison. He was a better player than McClain and would have been much cheaper.

You had it right, mvscal.
Props.

I don't blame Al at all for wanting to upgrade Morrison.
As "quarterback" of the defense, he was the equivalent of a MLB team having a .265, 20 HR, 80 RBI guy in the clean-up spot.

But the pick sucked, unfortunately.

So you're right.
Oakland should have rolled with Morrison and sought instead to upgrade other positions, which were also clearly lacking.

mvscal wrote:

poptart wrote:The guy was nearly universally regarded as an excellent NFL prospect.

I told you he was a stupid pick at the time. You should have kept Kirk Morrison. He was a better player than McClain and would have been much cheaper.

yep you did....it's interesting reading the thread on the 2010 draft

http://www.theoneboard.com/board/viewto ... =3&t=35332
hate to break this to you wags, but your call on berry couldn't have been more wrong if you'd tried

mvscal wrote:Bolts panic and trade up to 12 to snag Mathews at the cost of the 40th pick. Bad move, IMO. They're shut out till 91. If Cam Thomas isn't there, they fucked up.

I blame Buffalo.

do you still think so? matthews is a little on the fragile side, but he's a good running back.....a 12th? I don't know, but he's provided the bolts with another dimension....

.m2 wrote:Spiller's a joke.

He'll be in the league for a minute. The team that doesn't pick up "Jet Blue".... will be the same team that "whiffed" on Desean Jackson and let the best wide reviewer NFL slide to the late second roundn one year ago.

He's faster, stronger, and has better moves then jc spiller.

funny, spiller is a pretty decent running back on a team that sucks at the speed of light, while Best is probably working at Dicks Sporting Goods.....

mvscal wrote:

godzilla2002 wrote:Demaryius

Illiterate, Grade A fucktard.

but a home run type receiver....a little fragile, but a big weapon for Denver.....

Sudden Sam wrote:
Rolando McLain to the Raiders. Great for RMc...big payday, but...

I'll never see or hear about him again. He's gone to that big black hole on the west coast. Sad for his career.

amazing Sammy, hammer meet nailhead.......

I think McDaniels made a damn good move. Tebow's got more upside than people give him credit for. He's a QB coach's wet dream. He may turn out to be the steal of the draft.

And seeing the smirk on Gruden's face as Mel Kuiper ran his dumbass mouth about how Tebow will never be a good pro QB was worth staying with the entire draft show.

er, not so much..... :grin:

KC Scott wrote: A 5'7" KR / RB -fucking genius

Wags will love the pick for some reason

hindsight is always 20/20, but McCluster turned out to be a pretty decent pick.....

poptart wrote: Nice draft by Oakland so far.

LB - R. McClain
DT - L. Houston
T - J. Veldheer

Meat and potatoes.

What I was hoping for.

er not so much..... :grin:

mvscal wrote:(Taylor Mays)Or maybe he just isn't that good.

you were right, he just isn't very good.....

.m2 wrote:
His own coach (Pete Carrol) can't coach.

Tell me you knew.

super bowl winning coach?
wrong again.....

one more

poptart wrote:Overall stellar draft by the Raiders.

Of course they did bust loose and draft the ----> *wooooooooosh* ------> world class sprinter ---> in round 4.


You can't stop Al, you can only hope to contain him.

not one of their draft picks is still with the team.....

these are just some of the comments in that thread......reading through it was entertaining

poptart wrote:Nice draft by Oakland so far.

LB - R. McClain
DT - L. Houston
T - J. Veldheer

Meat and potatoes.

What I was hoping for.

Felix wrote:er not so much..... :grin:

McClain was a total flame out, but Houston and Veldheer are both good players.
Al did well with those two.

poptart wrote:

poptart wrote:Nice draft by Oakland so far.

LB - R. McClain
DT - L. Houston
T - J. Veldheer

Meat and potatoes.

What I was hoping for.

Felix wrote:er not so much..... :grin:

McClain was a total flame out, but Houston and Veldheer are both good players.
Al did well with those two.

Houston and Veldheer were decent picks, not sure why the duh's let them get away.....

Very bad GMing.

No excuse for it.

Poor idea to just let your two best players (and young ones) walk like that.


Considering Oakland was in an absolutely delicious position, with the most room under the cap in the league, McKenzie has done an awful job this offseason

Maybe he can make up for it by killing the draft.

I wouldn't bet much on it, though.

poptart wrote:Very bad GMing.

No excuse for it.

Poor idea to just let your two best players (and young ones) walk like that.


Considering Oakland was in an absolutely delicious position, with the most room under the cap in the league, McKenzie has done an awful job this offseason

Maybe he can make up for it by killing the draft.

I wouldn't bet much on it, though.

Cap money carries over from season to season these days. Maybe, just maybe he is thinking long term rather than running his team like Dan Snyder.

Paul wrote:

poptart wrote:LB is a pressing need.

The Raiders took the top LB prospect over the 3rd best O-Line prospect.

Good pick.

I agree....if the Chiefs didn't take Eric Berry, I personally wanted McClain. Best LB at Bama since Derrick Thomas.

Enough said.

Seriously, that Raydah D is going to be VERY good this year. :doh:

Felix wrote:

mvscal wrote:Bolts panic and trade up to 12 to snag Mathews at the cost of the 40th pick. Bad move, IMO. They're shut out till 91. If Cam Thomas isn't there, they fucked up.

I blame Buffalo.

do you still think so? matthews is a little on the fragile side, but he's a good running back.....a 12th? I don't know, but he's provided the bolts with another dimension....

Yeah. He definitely wasn't worth the 12th pick. Very few running backs are these days. They did manage to get Cam Thomas eventually anyways and he wasn't as good as I had hoped. Not a bad player, but merely decent.

mvscal wrote:

Paul wrote:

poptart wrote:LB is a pressing need.

The Raiders took the top LB prospect over the 3rd best O-Line prospect.

Good pick.

I agree....if the Chiefs didn't take Eric Berry, I personally wanted McClain. Best LB at Bama since Derrick Thomas.

Enough said.

Seriously, that Raydah D is going to be VERY good this year. :doh:

Well, they were 11th in yds allowed, 2nd in passing yds allowed, and they led the league in sacks.

poptart wrote: Considering Oakland was in an absolutely delicious position, with the most room under the cap in the league, McKenzie has done an awful job this offseason

Maybe he can make up for it by killing the draft.

I wouldn't bet much on it, though.

I think they've picked up some decent O linemen during the off season, but they're still lacking a #1 receiver and a QB......Schaub isn't going to get it done.....personally if I were in McKenzie's position, I'd try and parlay my first round pick into a later #1 with an additional 2 or a couple of additional 3's....unless Khalil Mack is still available.....he won't be but one can always hope

I think taking Watkins would be a mistake because without a QB to throw it to him, it's a wasted pick......

I also don't believe in Matt Scab.

McKenize signed a couple of O-Linemen, yes, but not before giving away his best O-Lineman, LT J. Veldheer.
He also gave away his best defensive player, L. Houston.

Both guys (just coming into what should be their best years) should have been re-signed -- and Reggie neglected to even use the tag.
I have no idea what is in his head.


He signed a handful of guys who are past their prime.
L. Woodley, J. Tuck, and MJ Drew, for example.

He's feeling the heat that his fat ass is going to get fired (back-to-back 4-12s), so he's trying to catch lightning in a bottle and win some games this year -- but these old guys he's signed are not helping to build a FOUNDATION, which is desperately needed in Oakland.

McKenzie is in a position where he needs to A+ the draft, and based on his previous 2 drafts, I doubt that it'll happen.

Felix wrote:....unless Khalil Mack is still available.....

the duhs made the right pick with Mack....that dude is scary good