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Awesome.

Now your mid-life crisis can earn "carbon credits".

Because it is.

With the torque a decent sized (not very large) electric motor produces they'd have to put some kind of soft starter on it, or a seat belt, or you'd fall of the back every time you juiced it.

Mikey wrote:With the torque a decent sized (not very large) electric motor produces

I think Average Joe doesn't understand the dynamic of electric motors, in that they essentially produce the same torque at 10 RPM as 10,000 RPM.

It ain't gas.

What's that in Newton/meters or however they measure electric motor power?

If you're an American it's foot pounds-force.

Haven't found a number on torque, but supposed to do 0-60 in under 4... not too shabby.

130 mile range sucks, but recharges quickly.

I don't know much about motors, electric or gas, but isn't the advantage of electric motors that they can produce "full power" almost instantly, where as a gas motor takes some time to give you "full power?"

I'd take one back and forth to work.

Looks like the bastard love child of a Ducati & a Ninja

This is why we'll never evolve as a society or economy. Because fat, balding middle-aged tough guys prioritize "looking cool" over practicality.

Left Seater wrote:I don't know much about motors, electric or gas, but isn't the advantage of electric motors that they can produce "full power" almost instantly, where as a gas motor takes some time to give you "full power?"

Dinsdale wrote:I think Average Joe doesn't understand the dynamic of electric motors, in that they essentially produce the same torque at 10 RPM as 10,000 RPM.

It ain't gas.

Sudden Sam wrote:

Dinsdale wrote: 130 mile range sucks, but recharges quickly.

Not exactly a touring choice.

I guess something like this would be practical for commuting to work and such.

Here Out West, many rest areas have charging stations (still lots of free electricity available for EVs, but that will eventually change). The article I read (which may or may not be the one linked here) said 30-60 minutes to recharge, which would be doable.

I still wouldn't want to get that far from home with an iffy power source.

True about the noise sound. I was spooked by an electric car coming up behind me in the G-store parking lot the other day. Couldn't hear it. I recall that the makers of the kid's Hot Wheels tryke added a noise maker so people would be more alert to it.

KC Scott wrote:
The roar of the Harley engine is one of those things that hopefully gets them to notice you so they don't merge right over you while they're updating their facebook

If you're relying on engine sounds for safety, you're not riding safely.

One should ALWAYS consider themselves invisible on a bike... ALWAYS. While situations such as the risk of being merged into will occasionally happen, safe riding involves keeping those situations to a bare minimum, and should be kept as brief as possible.

Of all my concerns about electric motorcycles, the lack of noise isn't one of them.

Dins: don't think anyone is saying we should rely on sound alone. It does add another factor in riding safety. We have a lot of folks on metal steeds down here and sometimes my awareness is caught off guard until I hear them. The "kids" zipping in and out of lanes of traffic on their crotch rockets are a big concern, older dudes on Harleys not so much.

Wolfman wrote:The "kids" zipping in and out of lanes of traffic on their crotch rockets are a big concern, older dudes on Harleys not so much.

Around here, ricerockets account for just about every fatal crash. Never see a Harley or Beemer rider getting offed.

Dinsdale wrote:I think Average Joe doesn't understand the dynamic of electric motors, in that they essentially produce max torque at 0 RPM and considerably less at 10,000 RPM.

ftfy, nc

It would be fun to have an electric trail bike. All that low rpm power would be nice.

smackaholic wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:I think Average Joe doesn't understand the dynamic of electric motors, in that they essentially produce max torque at 0 RPM and considerably less at 10,000 RPM.

ftfy, nc

It would be fun to have an electric trail bike. All that low rpm power would be nice.

This ought to be interesting. I wonder if Mikey think you're both high.

KC Scott wrote:Actually the sound of a bike is one of those "safety things" that people who ride understand

Come on, the safety angle isn't why anyone rides 'em. If you were so concerned with safety, you wouldn't be on one of those death traps to begin with. That's like when hunters say they shoot deer for population control.

Do what you want...just fucking own it.

Dinsdale wrote:If you're relying on engine sounds for safety, you're not riding safely.

One should ALWAYS consider themselves invisible on a bike... ALWAYS. While situations such as the risk of being merged into will occasionally happen, safe riding involves keeping those situations to a bare minimum, and should be kept as brief as possible.

Of all my concerns about electric motorcycles, the lack of noise isn't one of them.

The only time I ever hear any bike when I'm on the road (which is frequently) is after he's whizzed by me...at which point it's moot anyway.

Don't ride myself but I have lots of friends who do. I am very aware of motorcycles, especially the ones with cops on them.

Dinsdale wrote:

Around here, ricerockets account for just about every fatal crash. Never see a Harley or Beemer rider getting offed.

I guess it's my fault.

Dinsdale wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:

Around here, ricerockets account for just about every fatal crash. Never see a Harley or Beemer rider getting offed.

I guess it's my fault.

The dude that hit the deer over at Fossil last summer, and one up on the Santiam last year as well, were on Harleys. The one at Springfield last week was on a Kawsucki. Note the pool of blood on the ground there.

They are still looking for the 2nd car that was involved in this wreck.

Dinsdale wrote:

Mikey wrote:With the torque a decent sized (not very large) electric motor produces

I think Average Joe doesn't understand the dynamic of electric motors, in that they essentially produce the same torque at 10 RPM as 10,000 RPM.

It ain't gas.

One of the main reasons electric has been the tractive power for locomotives for the last 60 years or more.




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