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Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:18 am
by SunCoastSooner
Nick Saban single handedly won WWII.
The pope answered to Bear Bryant.
And other myths you might have heard.
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Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:57 pm
by Left Seater
Couple that stand out on first glance:
Sumlin at ATM 5-6, media hype glosses over that.
Pelini, 9-14, no wonder Husker fan wants him gone.
Shaw at Stanford, 14-4, surprised me.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:00 pm
by SunCoastSooner
Papa Willie is hiding from this thread. I can feel it in my nuggets.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:24 pm
by King Crimson
Leach is pretty ugly, he only gets about 10 or 15 differential taking over Spike Dykes reasonably .500 type program at Tech and the once respectable Wazzou Price late 90's. and i kinda like Mike.
grace periods i mean.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:33 pm
by King Crimson
Muschamp. HCIW.
Sonny Dykes ripping it up Cal styley.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 6:03 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:Mullen, Dantonio, Leach, Ferentz and Pinkel...UGH!
For Dantonio, it's not hard to understand. He spent three seasons at Cincinnati and then inherited an MSU program that was in shambles. Took some time to build the program and get some quality wins under his belt.
Easy to see how Saban can rack up top 25 wins with LSU and Bama talent. He couldn't hack it at MSU.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:10 pm
by SunCoastSooner
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Mullen, Dantonio, Leach, Ferentz and Pinkel...UGH!
For Dantonio, it's not hard to understand. He spent three seasons at Cincinnati and then inherited an MSU program that was in shambles. Took some time to build the program and get some quality wins under his belt.
Easy to see how Saban can rack up top 25 wins with LSU and Bama talent. He couldn't hack it at MSU.
I don't think it was he couldn't hack it but that he has no loyalty. Saban is a snake. He only plays the game with a stacked deck (see his NFL tenure).
Saban is a mercenary . . . a damn good one but a mercenary.
In the words of Lester Freeman (The Wire): "He ain't goin' to the dance unless he can grab some tit."
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:24 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
SunCoastSooner wrote:I don't think it was he couldn't hack it but that he has no loyalty.
Both of those things can be true at the same time. Saban himself complained about the difficulties of recruiting against UM and Ohio State, and playing second fiddle in his own state.
He is a great coach...
...when he doesn't have to face adversity and has access to all the best resources, talent, over-signing, etc.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:20 pm
by King Crimson
LSU wasn't exactly all that when Nick got there. in the what Gerry DiNardo era....a guy who won 6 games at Vandy once**. they had been middling for a while in Baton Rouge. not like he inherited a juggernaut.
i don't really like Saban and the move to the NFL and back diminishes BTPCF in a way i don't like....but LSU was pretty average for a long time. this eternal SEC thing being shoved down our throats 24/7 thing is also fairly recent. credit where credit is due, but Spurrier's UF MNC was pretty novel for the almighty SEC, SEC, SEC.
**for screw, did you know i went to vandy? it was AWESOME. i went to 2-3 football games and a bunch of hoops games. i'm their biggest fan except for when OU is winning. i've been bandwagoning the Sooners since i was born.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:43 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
It doesn't take a great coach to win at LSU.
But it takes a total moron to fail.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:35 am
by Screw_Michigan
King Crimson wrote:
**for screw, did you know i went to vandy? it was AWESOME. i went to 2-3 football games and a bunch of hoops games. i'm their biggest fan except for when OU is winning. i've been bandwagoning the Sooners since i was born.
Jerkoff.
Re: Bob Stoops is a choke artist
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:40 am
by King Crimson
Screw_Michigan wrote:King Crimson wrote:
**for screw, did you know i went to vandy? it was AWESOME. i went to 2-3 football games and a bunch of hoops games. i'm their biggest fan except for when OU is winning. i've been bandwagoning the Sooners since i was born.
Jerkoff.
interesting choice of words from you. how did that bait taste?
sucka.