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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... siana.html

The gist of the article is that the writer is mystified by Harry Reid's decision to put the Keystone pipeline to a vote on the Senate floor despite what he sees as no political advantage for Democrats. I submit that Reid may be doing this to punch Obama in the balls for his role in making him lose his Senate Majority Leader status and for all the other stuff he is guilty of for the past six years. Reid has had Obama's back no since he was elected in 2008, but what has that got him except a diminished position in American politics? By no means does this give Reid a pass on his behavior and decisions, but to do this definitely puts Obama on the defensive and sets this up for a positive Republican plank come 2016.

After all, what has Obama done for him... ever? I can easily see this is a big FU to his party's leader.

It is apparently an attempt to help landreiux out in LA. Of course she doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell. I suspect she will go down by double digits.

yes.

apparently.

pretty laughable, isn't it?

she is going to get rolled hard

But that's the thing-- giving this to Landreiux doesn't appear to help her or the Democrats in any way, certainly not now after the election. Had he done this months before, well sure, then Reid could take credit for attempting to move legislation forward, but now it gains nothing for the Left. The environmentalists will be angry, Landrieux is going to lose badly, and Keystone doesn't help Louisiana anyway since it ends up in Texas. Furthermore, it forces Obama to either OK it (which he won't) and alienates what few supporters he has left or he signs off on it playing into Republican hands where they can say they are getting the hard work done in Congress creating good paying jobs and increasing our energy independence. As it is, Democrats would be set up for another groin shot in 2016 since the unquestionably positive outcome of Keystone gives the Right-- the traditional party of Big Energy --another thing on which to campaign, not to mention the satisfaction of being able to tell the American populace that they punched our Jughead-in-Chief in the ballsack, something the vast majority of Americans would absolutely love to do.

Like I said, I see this as nothing but political payback for six years of being shat upon by Obama. And Reid is enough a political animal to do the calculations and know he is going to get re-elected in Nevada but in a diminished capacity due to his boss' worthlessness, so why not paint him into a corner? In Harry's mind he probably is thinking, "Screw him. He lost me my majority, let's see how he likes the taste of this shit sandwich."

Barry will veto the Keystone legislation. So what? It will still go through, even though its effect will include higher gasoline prices. No, the real disaster of Obama, the real and final sell-out of any pretense of a "progressive" president--that agenda upon which he was duly elected--is his enthusiastic imploring to "fast track" the pending TPP plan. Notice how this massive and all-encompassing corporate power grab is being ignored by the right-wing disimformation machine. Notice how none of the usual auto-smear pundits are criticizing him for this shameless sell-out. And yes, you--you the pasty old scared white men--are dead in the cross hairs of this unprecedented thrust of trans-national corporate facism. TPP makes NAFTA look like the Peace Corps. Meanwhile Harry the Mormon is trying to pray.

Wow. I read that aloud in my mind picturing spittle flying out of your mouth, bashing an imaginary shoe against a podium, with the faint strains of dismal Soviet era political music playing in the background. There's a crowd of dour faced uniformed old men wearing copious Great War medals on their chests nodding solemnly in silent agreement with your fierce polemic against the face of Oppression: Obama, the not-quite-communist-enough Leader of the decadent West. Nicely done, comrade, nicely done!

Obama is in service to Wall Street and the Pentagon.

There are consequences otherwise...

Rooster, you don't even know what TPP is do you?.. It's okay, you don't have to feel like a clumsy dumb stooge, lamely offering hackneyed tripe. The basic details--let alone the full scope--of the TPP trade agreement have been carefully shrouded and ignored. You sure don't hear Rusp Limpdick blathering about its merits, nor getting red-faced and spitting (your proper use of the image) because Barry is not only promoting it, but urging its fast-track--so as to avoid any discussion or examination. But sure, go on talking about Soviets and Obama the "communist." After all, you're riding high, right? I mean you've got a Creationist heading up the senate Environment Committee, right? And "anti-government" simpletons holding a majority in both houses. Sure, yer on a roll now.

TOPEKA -- Tax revenue in April dropped 45 percent from a year ago, the Kansas Department of Revenue announced Wednesday.
The state's revenue for the year is $92.9 million less than projected earlier this month....
Personal income tax revenue has decreased by $508 million compared with this point last fiscal year. That category also accounted for the discrepancy between Wednesday's numbers and estimates released earlier in the month. Income tax revenue was $89.6 million lower than expected.

Don't worry, all those non-union jobs laying the pipeline will fix things right up. Nicely done....er..

Those non union jobs will pay better than union non-jobs.

People in the oil-boom states are making good money. Not because they have unions to demand good pay. Because there is actually a high demand for labor. This is the only path to good paying jobs. unions and minimum wage requirements will never get you there.

No, smackie, the jobs are temporary, a couple years tops, minimal benefits and of course lower pay than a union job. And while any job is better than none when your nation's economy is being converted to trans-national corporate structures--which doesn't include American workers--the Keystone pipeline has nothing to do with America's oil-states, or fracking states, or for that matter any American companies besides the (trans-national) oil companies. Besides fucking the environment, it will enhance the oil companies at a time when they need to be moving directly towards renewable energy.

All construction jobs are "temporary," dumbfuck.

My point exactly, which is why the "jobs creation" chant accompanying the Keystone crusade is bogus. Right? I see you're in agreement? And too the suggestion that this project will make America "energy independent" is similarly fatuous. Or that it will lower gasoline prices, and that its safety can be trusted. And that the question of Climate Change peril "remains open." Gee, just think, like a groggy squinting wino in the bitter clawing morning sun, you're half awake. Good job, Sanchez Of The Opera (your new pic nic name!). Good job.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:My point exactly, which is why the "jobs creation" chant accompanying the Keystone crusade is bogus.

Oh? So it'll just build itself will it?

Wait, isn't "LET'S REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREATE JOBS!!!!" the battlecry of the Left?

Dang, now we come to find out that rebuilding the "crumbling infrastructure" (which doesn't exist) only creates temporary jobs?

But heaven forbid a construction project that actually creates revenue gets built... that would be horrible.

mvscal wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:My point exactly, which is why the "jobs creation" chant accompanying the Keystone crusade is bogus.

Oh? So it'll just build itself will it?

No, rather, it doesn't need to be built at all. And shouldn't be,

Dims, it's not our "infrastructure" at all, but a private project that benefits no one but the trans-national oil companies. Our infrastructure--which of course should be refurbished in a massive NWP-like effort--includes actual American public structures like freeways, bridges, dams, etc. And when you add parenthetically that such disregarded and crumbling infrastructure "doesn't exist," we notice you're now in some Hannity denial mode. Here's a reality check, you ludicrous crusted cow pod..
http://www.brighthubengineering.com/str ... structure/

LTS TRN 2 wrote:...a private project that benefits no one but the trans-national oil companies.

Well, them and the landowners who are paid for the easements.

Your economic ignorance is stunningly comprehensive.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: http://www.brighthubengineering.com/str ... structure/

For real?

Should we link up Lockheed Martin/Northrup/Blackwater sites as proof that the military lacks funding?

I keep hearing all these foxes outside the henhouse crying about "crumbling infrastructure." Where is it? We had a crumbling viaduct on I-5 here in Portland -- it just got fixed. We had a crumbling bridge over the Willamette -- it's being replaced. The Wanapum Dam in Washington has issues -- they're getting fixed.

You don't replace the transmission on your car just because it cracked 150K miles -- you wait until it starts slipping.

And certainly, no American will make a thin dime off the Keystone, and that certainly won't increase the tax base for all the money that grifters like yourself want to spend on pie-in-the-sky BS (with no ideas on how to pay for it).

Who said the military lacks funding? Are you drunk? As for the actual crumbling infrastructure, take another look..
http://www.brighthubengineering.com/str ... structure/

As for the easements to landowners over whose land the keystone pipe will pass, so what? This is a drop in a few buckets. There's no actual benefit to the public at all. McConnell and Boehner (and of course the odious Inhofe) are simply corporate whores who have been purchased, pure and simple. And you support them...why?

http://harvestpublicmedia.org/article/5 ... pipeline/5

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Who said the military lacks funding?

Oh, I'm sure we can find plenty of people... like the ones who stand to gain from it... dumbass.

As for the actual crumbling infrastructure, take another look..
http://www.brighthubengineering.com/str ... structure/

Since you're as dumb as a rock, I'll explain it for you:

That website is from a company that stands to gain billions from rebuilding the nonexistent "crumbling infrastructure."

Light coming on yet?

Actually, show me a link from any entity on "crumbling infrastructure" that isn't written by someone who stands to make huge gains from it... I'll wait... no, I won't, since you won't find one.

So, your auto anti-government reflex immediately calls bullshit on anything that might include actually spending America's national wealth on its own people and infrastructure? I get it. But here's one that's not from some loafing mooching welfare champion...http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org ... waterways/

But getting back to the Keystone, why do you support a private project that only benefits Canadian mines and American oil companies--which pay minimal taxes and receive massive subsidies? Just your Libertarian principles arching up like a dog's hackles?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:America's national wealth

If -$18,000,000,000,000 is "wealth," I'd hate to see "debt."

American oil companies--which pay minimal taxes and receive massive subsidies?

Is there any leftist koolaid you won't slurp up?

Exxon paid more in taxes than any entity in 2012 (and about any other year you care to name), by a wide margin. Chevron was #2, also by a wide margin over #3.

And the amount paid in subsidies to those companies still remains consistent -- still sitting right at... Zero. Funny how a certain segment of our society (the lying, hand-out sort) has redefined the word "subsidy." A "subsidy" is a grant from the government to encourage the production of a given product. But let's examine the "new definition" of "subsidy":

The largest expenditure of government money on petroleum(by far) is maintaining the Strategic Resrerve, which most people would argue is in the country's better long-tem interest. Not really a "subsidy," but a purchase by the government of petroleum (a "purchase" isn't a "subsidy").

The second-largest "subsidy" isn't a "subsidy" by any definition of the word -- it's the tax-exemption for farm fuels, which is done as a tax credit for the road taxes that is paid on the fuel for vehicles that aren't used on the roads, and create no wear-and-tear on them.

The third largest "subsidy" could actually meet the definition of "subsidy" -- it's Low Income Energy Assistance. I suppose you're opposed to that one, since it is an actual "subsidy," right?

Those 3 cover the bulk of what the Lying Lefties call "oil subsidies."

Or were you trying to allude to oil companies... GASP... getting to write off business expenses, just like any other company in the country?

No one is asking you to like Big Oil. As citizens, we should be leery of their influence in government, for sure. But what should be asked of everyone, is so STOP FUCKING LYING to try and make your point.

And as far as the stupidity of "Keystone only benefits American oil companies"... who the fuck do you think owns American poil companies, dumbass? A tiny fraction of shares are held by oil execs. The overwhelming majority are owned by... retirement plans, you fucking moron. Why do you hate the middle-class working folk?

Let's remember that this massive debt was initiated by Reagan and his tax cuts for the wealthy, which has now continued with the likes of Grover Nordquist and similar slime, and that many of the states--like Kansas--who eagerly slashed taxes (and want more cuts) are the most in debt. The simplistic citing of the national debt belies the fact of these trans-national corporations moving colossal amounts of profit offshore and thus untaxed. In fact America's economy is still quite the largest and our wealth is similarly staggering. It is this utterly false and pernicious neo-liberal dogma that is packing your lobes.

The oil company subsidies and tax breaks are shameless and destructive. The Keystone project is disgusting and dangerous as well. Your pathetic show of sympathy for America's middle class is undermined by your rote smears against labor unions. Who are you kidding?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Your pathetic show of sympathy for America's middle class is undermined by your rote smears against labor unions.

Speaking of unions I might start to change my tune on them if more start acting like the American Airlines waitresses. They just voted down a new contract that had almost $200 million in raises and more vacation. Instead they chose to go to binding arbitration where the most they can get in raises is $89 million less. And that is only if the arbitrator gives them the full amount.

But since you know everything why don't you give us your take on the vote, ehh comrade.

You mean you'd like all of the remaining unions to blunder like the airlines union? You'd "change your tune" (which is hostile, right?) if they'd falter even more? So...you're what..some crass little prick? Oh that's right, you're the faker who suggests a 767 could vaporize and swallow into a small hole like a carnival trick. Ya lil' prick.

Riddle me this, how are unions good for Tom in south Florida?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:The Keystone project is disgusting and dangerous as well.

What's so disgusting and dangerous about a pipeline?

There are a million miles of essential pipelines all across this country not to mention every half way developed country in the world, but you get your panties twisted over this one?

Methinks you parrot an agenda fed to you by The Daily Kos or whatever leftist propaganda machine informs these crack pot notions. Unswervingly sticking to that delusional party line, you come across like a ludicrous clown.

Welcome back, though. You're always good for a chuckle.

Wags, the Keystone pipeline is to pipelines as the TPP is to trade agreements. I don't mean to strain your powers of analogy, but you need to look at the bigger picture.

As for labor unions helping Tom in Florida, well they help all Americans--except the rapacious neo-liberal whores who casually accept and endorse the unprecedented shift of wealth to the top .01 percent.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
As for labor unions helping Tom in Florida, well they help all Americans--except the rapacious neo-liberal whores who casually accept and endorse the unprecedented shift of wealth to the top .01 percent.

How do they help all Americans?


This should be entertaining.

Left Seater wrote:How do they help all Americans?

Oh, lots of ways.

Like keeping a percentage of the already high labor they charge, to make it even less cost-effective, thus sending more jobs overseas...

which is enabled by their massive political contributions to parties that... pass laws encouraging jobs to go overseas.

Hell, unions aren't even capable of helping themselves... they take their members' money, and use it to shoot the members and themselves in the foot.

Before labor unions Americans were forced to work twelve-hour days, six days a week with no benefits. You know, like China today. That which we've called a middle class, was created by the fact of labor unions. And as union membership has decreased, so have American wages. Those who oppose unions are slime fuck neo-liberal whores.

You of course, being a total fraud and coward, can only offer tedious snips that you've heard on tedious repetitive right-wing radio blather. Sort of like your inane beg-offs on explaining the miraculous disappearance of a 757 into a small hole in the pentagon--without even breaking the windows outside the fifteen-foot radius.

You still haven't answered the question how unions help all americans today.


And I have no desire to rehash your lack of aviation knowledge. As proof look no further than this thread where you interchange 767 and 757.

Labor unions created that which you refer to as the "middle class." Now, your being a totally fake coward, I don't expect anything from you. No acknowledgment of the effort, the suffering, the strength and actual moral bearing that led to the brave fights--the righteous demand for decency and honor in this land. Not you. Not a weak little fraud like you. But go ahead, ease out your weaseled days, your oleomargarine mind dispensing fluffy nonsense...tick..tick...

And as for the 757 or 767 , who cares, ..it wasn't either. Or what? Do you actually pretend to suggest an airliner struck the pentagon? You pathetic troll.

Of course you can't understand how artificially raising wages and lowering output required might help union members but it hurts the economy overall. Or how unions have cost their members and their communities their jobs and homes when the manufacturing no longer made financial sense because we as consumers refused to pay the higher costs.

America's labor unions were seriously hobbled by NAFTA. Now, being the squirming little coward bitch that you are, you probably support NAFTA. And too, you probably support the pending TPP agreement--along with Barry. Your mealy mouthings are typically inane and false. For example "we as consumers refused to pay the higher costs." What this means is that you chose to start buying your Skoal at Walmart.

The fact that you stand in bloated passive acquiescence with all of the neo-liberal bile that's been packed in your flabby lobes is what's really pathetic. Almost as much as your totally fake expertise in aviation.

(you fake coward)
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/inde ... opic=20969

Still refusing to answer direct questions I see.

Here try this one, how did the IBEW of New Jersey help the residents of Seaside Heights after Hurricane Sandy by refusing to allow non union crews from Decatur Alabama to help restore power? We know it sure helped line the pockets of thhe Union and it's members but please tell us how it helped the residents without power.

No, you're not asking direct questions. You're running and squirming like the little bitch you are. What's your take on NAFTA and TPP? What's your response to the complete takedown of your ludicrous assertion on the pentagon attack? Who dropped you on your dull head? You total fraud.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:No, you're not asking direct questions.

Left Seater wrote:
How did the IBEW of New Jersey help the residents of Seaside Heights after Hurricane Sandy by refusing to allow non union crews from Decatur Alabama to help restore power? We know it sure helped line the pockets of thhe Union and it's members but please tell us how it helped the residents without power.

Start answering and quit trying to hide.