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That it is also a shithole played into it as well.

What is the difference, precipitation wise, between B-Lo and Crapchester? You're only 60 miles east of B-Lo.

Screw_Michigan wrote:What is the difference, precipitation wise, between B-Lo and Crapchester? You're only 60 miles east of B-Lo.

By the looks of that video, you could be 60 yards east of that squall and get a few feet less precipitation.

Great conversation with a couple of Midwest transplants a couple of nights ago. Went something like:

"MY SOUL HAS BEEN FREED!!!! I didn't realize I was living in hell, until I came out here."

Screw_Michigan wrote:What is the difference, precipitation wise, between B-Lo and Crapchester? You're only 60 miles east of B-Lo.

I'm 90 miles west of Downtown Buffalo and I have 1 inch of snow in my yard. We get lake effect, but nothing even remotely on that scale.

Some here need to take a course in Lake Effect Snow 101. I've seen several bands of it driving on I-81 between Syracuse and Watertown NY. My younger daughter lives in Buffalo near Kenmore and they only had a few inches of the white stuff. Lake effect snow is unique. Check out the Tug Hill plateau, Redfield, and Osceola NY.

I'm absolutely shivering just looking at the pix coming out if Buffalo.

Then again it's like 72 degrees right now and I'm shivering.

B, do you live in Lake Erie on a house boat?

Does b-lo look any less shitty with a 6 ft white coat?

I read somewhere that it went from 6 ft to 3 inches in a few miles if you headed south. Unfukking real.

You actually can blame warm weather for this shit. We had a mild fall, so I suspect the lakes are a few degrees warmer than normal which means places like the b-lo and Watertown are in for one long winter. Have fun

B wrote:Why I never moved to South Buffalo

Rochester







:wink:

That Popeye's video will never get old to me. That was the Popeye's on Lake Avenue. Lake Avenue is the place Lou Gramm sang about in the Foreigner song "Rev On The Red Line." Rochester has changed a little since then. Now it is known for the dubious quality of the whores that patrol those streets and the hard drugs that the whores and the other denizens of that neighborhood use. White people don't live there unless they have made some REAL bad life choices.

schmick wrote:So there's about 8 people who formerly lived in western new york that wish global warming was real

You do realize that a side effect of global warming is more snow in areas already prone to snow.

BSmack wrote:

schmick wrote:So there's about 8 people who formerly lived in western new york that wish global warming was real

You do realize that a side effect of global warming is more snow in areas already prone to snow.

While this true in that the closer to freezing the more moisture the air can hold, therefore producing more snow, it also helps lower temperatures. A heavy snow year will result in lower spring and summer temps.

Papa Willie wrote:I had heard they got 5 feet...

When your snowfall is taller than Moving Sale, it's time to move...

That said, we have been getting hammered here in West Michigan the last three days, but nothing like Beefalo.

schmick wrote:73 and sunny on the forecast here today

So Cal wins

So Cal has you and people just like you.

I'll take the snow.

schmick wrote:Thats OK, nobody who can not trace their roots in So Cal to 1950 or before should be allowed to live here anyway. Its transplants that have fucked California up

It is those same transplants that allowed the CA economy to grow to what it has become today.

So the IT sector was developed prior to 1950 and then went dormant until the 70s?

Paul Allen and Bill Gates were from Seattle. Care to take another run at it?

According to you they should have never been allowed in.

You really are slow or are an epic troll.

Microsoft has a huge operation in SJC and Mountain View. So much so I have filled in on their SJC DAL four times daily employee shuttle.

Left Seater wrote:You really are slow or are an epic troll.

Microsoft has a huge operation in SJC and Mountain View. So much so I have filled in on their SJC DAL four times daily employee shuttle.

The SoCal economy boomed on aerospace and defense post WWII. There was plenty of IT in Silicon Valley pre-Microsoft, and a lot besides MS in the past 30 years.

HP pretty much started the whole thing in the Bay Area in a garage in Palo Alto in the late 1940s.

Also consider:
Fairchild Semiconductors
Xerox-PARC
Varian
Apple
3Com
Adobe
Cisco Systems
etc.
etc.

many of which pre-dated MS in one form or another.

And a Rochester, NY based (at the time) company called Xerox had this facility in Palo Alto you may have heard of. It is where both Gates and Jobs pilfered the idea for a graphical display and mouse.

Looks like Mikey beat me to that one.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:I had heard they got 5 feet...

When your snowfall is taller than Moving Sale, it's time to move...

Further proof that MGO was not the brains behind team TVO/MGO. Good gawd man, step up your game.

Why aren't you able to laugh at yourself? Everyone else does.

You think what he typed was funny?
I guess I just have a higher bar for funny than you do.

Moving Sale wrote:I guess I just have a higher bar for funny than you do.

But much lower kitchen cabinets.

Case in point.

The humorless dwarf has decided he's the arbiter of what's funny?

See, he can occasionally say something funny, albeit never intentionally.

schmick wrote:73 and sunny on the forecast here today

So Cal wins

High taxes and regulation, over population and traffic jams, drought and water scarcity. I probably missed a dozen other "wins".

Yep, I'll take the occasional blizzard or tornado as well.

So it's your position that at least one of their posts was funny. Do tell ditch digger.

Left Seater wrote:

BSmack wrote:

schmick wrote:So there's about 8 people who formerly lived in western new york that wish global warming was real

You do realize that a side effect of global warming is more snow in areas already prone to snow.

A heavy snow year will result in lower spring and summer temps.

Now this is one I'd like to hear the reasoning behind. I'm in the mood for a laugh, I guess.

Ken wrote:
A heavy snow year will result in lower spring and summer temps.

Now this is one I'd like to hear the reasoning behind. I'm in the mood for a laugh, I guess.[/quote]

I'd buy that it results in lower soil temps.

Air temps? Maybe not so much.

Heard a meteorologist speaking on the subject a few years ago. He started by talking about the heat, drought, fire cycle, which leads to warmer temps.

The flip side of it is a large and deep snow pack. The heavier and deeper the snow in a season the longer the snow covers the ground. This snow pack reflects more of the sunlight than dirt, roads, flower beds etc, which as Dins alluded to keeps the soil temps lower. It also prevents dirt, pavement, from absorbing this radiant heat during the day and returning it to the atmosphere at night.

Neather the cycle has a huge difference but they can and do alter temps.

One week of 40 degree temps and most of the snowpack is melted. But, there are always isolated spots. I've seen banks that are hidden from all sunlight (like in open parking garages) last into May. They are few and far between. The real moderating force for Rochester has been and always be Lake Ontario and Lake Erie. They don't warm up the way the soil does. That's why the last 100 degree day in Rochester was during FDR's Presidency. There was a little convection in the air from the dust bowl that year.

Left Seater wrote:Heard a meteorologist speaking on the subject a few years ago. He started by talking about the heat, drought, fire cycle, which leads to warmer temps.

The flip side of it is a large and deep snow pack. The heavier and deeper the snow in a season the longer the snow covers the ground. This snow pack reflects more of the sunlight than dirt, roads, flower beds etc, which as Dins alluded to keeps the soil temps lower. It also prevents dirt, pavement, from absorbing this radiant heat during the day and returning it to the atmosphere at night.

Neather the cycle has a huge difference but they can and do alter temps.

Snowpack has absolutely NO bearing on the spring and summer temperatures. Zero. Either the meteorologist was (is) a complete fucktard or you completely misconstrued what he said. I'm going with the latter seeing as how what much of you posted above is in fact correct, but again has zero bearing on the summer temps. You actually think that a snowpack that lasts one week longer than usual will affect summer temps? That's grade A stupidity right there.

Yes, snowpack prolongs and deepens a cold snap for the reasons stated above. In short, because of the snowpack (and the low sun angle during the winter), overall, the atmosphere loses more heat than it gains making each successive day colder than the previous. THAT is what the meteorologist was talking about.

Uhhh, Ken, you might want to reread your post. You call me grade A stupid, then double down on exactly what I said.

Further, we aren't talking about an extra week of snow cover. He was discussing a snow pack from an above average winter that would last an extra month to 6 weeks. This additional snow coverage has the ability to lower the average daily temps, both highs and lows while it remains. You said the same exact thing.

I never said it lowers July or Aug temps when all the snow is gone.

Left Seater wrote:I never said it lowers July or Aug temps when all the snow is gone.

Guess my reading and comprehension skills are inferior... errrr, I mean spot on.

Left Seater wrote:A heavy snow year will result in lower spring and summer temps.

:shoulder shrug:
You should just cut your losses here.

Left Seater wrote:Further, we aren't talking about an extra week of snow cover. He was discussing a snow pack from an above average winter that would last an extra month to 6 weeks. This additional snow coverage has the ability to lower the average daily temps, both highs and lows while it remains. You said the same exact thing.

1. Since we're talking the US here, we'll go with that. We'll leave Siberia to another discussion. You will not find an occasion where snowpack lasts 4-6 weeks longer than an average year. Period. I don't care if Buffalo gets 2 ft. of snow on April 1st... it ain't gonna happen. The sun angle into mid-April/May is far too high in the sky to allow for an extended snowpack into fucking MID-MAY.

2. If you still believe that a snowpack resulting from a late storm in early May will result in cooler temps in July/August (fuck, even June), then yes, you are a grade A idiot.

Excuse me if I take the meteorologist from the NWS at a slightly higher value than your opinion.

Further we aren't talking about one snowfall that is around for a week or two.

If I can find the notes I will scan them and post them for your peer review. I am sure dude can't wait to hear from you.

One example he used was a large Nov snow storm followed by two smaller ones in metro Denver in Nov. The snow pack lasted in to Jan which helped lower the Dec temps for most of the Denver metro area. He stated that had the same storms happened in late March it would have effected the April and May temps for the metro Denver area.