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Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:56 pm
by Goober McTuber
...is a piece of shit. Should be suspended. Again.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:34 pm
by Shoalzie
I want to be a homer and defend the guy and I want him to play because they stand less of a chance of beating Dallas without him but he's a repeat offender of dumbassery like Raiola. Playoffs or not, the league shouldn't stand for that stuff. It's cruel irony that he won't even play in his final game for the team because of another stupid act on the field.

On top of the fact Fairley still isn't ready to come back from his injury...who was injured via friendly fire from Suh during the London game. He'll get paid around $100 million by someone else and he can be their problem. I might as well get used to not seeing him on this team anymore.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:39 pm
by mvscal
Sukkadong should be banned for life.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:38 am
by poptart
lol


That shit we saw just won't fly any more.

Sam, you're old skool.
You know that -----> back in the day, all kinds of cheapie crappola went on in the trenches.
Suh would have been a perfect Raiduh in the '70s.

I'm not that outraged by him, although it was clearly wrong, intentional, and he has a track record of just this kind of action.

If they fine him (or sit him), I understand it.
I think they should.

But I'd like to see some on-field "justice" come his way.
Would like to see some opposing player(s) clip him or fugg him up somehow.
I'd smile at that.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:03 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
I think these two things are simultaneously true: 1) Suh is a gigantic fuckhead and 2) The NFL really, really wants a Packers/Cowboys conference championship.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:18 am
by War Wagon
poptart wrote: Suh would have been a perfect Raiduh in the '70s.
yup, see the 1:44 mark.



Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:59 am
by Joe in PB
Hard for me to be too tough on Suh when he's stepping on one of the league primadonnas. The guys who get calls every game, hand to the head, late hit, hit below the thigh, hit too hard, crrrraap.

What comes around, goes around, some QB's get a lot bs calls, then get a few that are well deserved too.

By the league standard today, guys like Ronnie Lott, Decon Jones, Bubba Smith, Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, Night Train Lane, and many other all time great NFL defensive players would all be commissioner degenerates.

I'd say Suh has a good chance of staying in Detroit next season, that's why they have the franchise tag. The lions need Suh to compete against the Packers, who clearly can't handle him & Fairly.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:19 pm
by poptart
Sam wrote:Big Ben Davidson would have jumped up and down on the QB's leg. Butkus would have chewed Rodger's leg off.
Look at Wagon's Youtube -- and note the shot George Atkinson put on the KC receiver at :55.

:lol:


What if that happened today?

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:55 pm
by mvscal
All you have to do is take a quick look at the shambling wrecks that these guys are today to figure out why that behavior isn't tolerated anymore.

Suh isn't a "tough guy." He's a cheap shotting bitch.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:22 pm
by Joe in PB
For years now Suh has been voted the most feared and intimidating player in the league by his peers, and that's not because he stepped on someone. Intimidation, that's what is missing from today's game. Many guys are combine heroes but can't tackle and don't want to learn because it only leads to fines. The NFL is going to resemble flag football before long, yet concussion issues and crippled players will continue to be the result of careers in the NFL.

The league needs to redesign the helmet (combination disposable shock absorbing crushable outer shell & inner shell similar to a combat helmet), then have all teams go to that new artificial turf that eliminates cleats, two step in the right direction, yet keeping the game physical.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:29 pm
by jiminphilly
Joe in PB wrote: then go to that new artificial turf that eliminates cleats,
except the little black rubber pebbles in the nextturf might be causing cancer.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:42 pm
by Joe in PB
The word "might" is an awful lot like the word "if". Asphalt and many construction materials contain carcinogens or toxins too, yet I don't see people abandoning their homes & offices and moving into tents. I'm sure there are materials suitable for good artificial turf.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:26 pm
by Goober McTuber
Joe in PB wrote:For years now Suh has been voted the most feared and intimidating player in the league by his peers
Kind of like a modern day Conrad Dobler. Like mvscal said, a cheap-shotting little bitch.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:40 pm
by Joe in PB
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 6485016576

While I don't condone what Suh did, I do think it's the right decision since a suspension would have negatively impacted the competitive integrity of the Cowboys/Lions game.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:53 pm
by packwin13
I think Suh is a piece of shit, but as a Packer fan, I'm thrilled he is playing this weekend. The Packers match up better against the AZ/CAR winner than they do Dallas. Also, out of DET/AZ/CAR, I think the Lions probably have the most realistic shot of beating Seattle, potentially giving the Packers back home field for the NFC title game.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:55 am
by jiminphilly
Joe in PB wrote:The word "might" is an awful lot like the word "if". Asphalt and many construction materials contain carcinogens or toxins too, yet I don't see people abandoning their homes & offices and moving into tents. I'm sure there are materials suitable for good artificial turf.
No, "might" and "if" are not the same word. Might is the appropriate word. It implies nothing conclusive. But It's enough of a concern that it's being looked at and studied based on a rash of blood cancers by soccer players. It could be a coincidence.. or it could be connected. But given that athletes dive/fall, scrape and have those pellets get into wounds whereas construction materials are necessarily getting into bodies unless airborne.. I'd say it's not a fair comparison.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:13 am
by War Wagon
look at the big fucking head on the 2014 JFFL champ... we've created a monster more dangerous than Suh.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:41 pm
by Joe in PB
My orignal point was really about eliminating cleats to reduce the number of knee injuries. Obviously there are many types of artificial turf, made from many different types of materials. Certainly there is a recipe that would meet everyone's standard to accomplish that goal.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:01 am
by Joe in PB
Ah yes...finally a voice of reason.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12104 ... -situation
RENTON, Wash. -- Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett weighed in on the Ndamukong Suh situation, saying defensive linemen are treated differently than other players in the NFL.

Suh, a defensive tackle for the Detroit Lions, had his one-game suspension for stepping on the leg of Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers overturned after an appeal. He instead was fined $70,000.

"This is a fantasy football league,'' Bennett said Wednesday. "That's how it's set up now. You take the play that Suh did. He did step on somebody's foot, but he gets fined because it's the quarterback. As a defensive lineman, people are always stepping on you. People always are hitting you in the head. There's always something happening to you, but nobody cares because we're defensive linemen."

Bennett said the rules are skewed in the favor of offensive players.

"You can't touch a quarterback here, can't put your hand on a receiver there,'' he said. "You have to let them run free.

"But if I get knocked to the ground, the referee just steps over me and says, 'That's part of the game.' If Peyton Manning falls to the ground, the referee helps him get up. I thought everybody was equal, but that's a lie."

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:15 am
by Goober McTuber
Suh's first step might have been an accident. The second? Absolutely not. He's a dirty player, despite what any apologists might say. Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:23 pm
by mvscal
Joe in PB wrote:I do think it's the right decision since a suspension would have negatively impacted the competitive integrity of the Cowboys/Lions game.
In that case, you are a colossal dumbfuck who has completely lost the plot.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:26 pm
by mvscal
Goober McTuber wrote: Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Personally, I'm hoping his neck is broken and he spends the rest of his life communicating to his caregivers with blinks of his eyes and shitting into a bag.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:19 pm
by Joe in PB
mvscal wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Personally, I'm hoping his neck is broken and he spends the rest of his life communicating to his caregivers with blinks of his eyes and shitting into a bag.
...and I'm the colossal dumbfuck. Boo Hoo Aaron Rogers got stepped on, yet you fucking arm chair allstars want knees blown out and broken necks. Maybe if any of you pussies actually played football you'd have had a few cleat marks after games too. Sure maybe Suh did it on purpose, but blowing out a knee or breaking someones neck is criminal.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:28 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:Suh's first step might have been an accident. The second? Absolutely not. He's a dirty player, despite what any apologists might say. Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Too bad nobody cut blocked your balls off before you procreated.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:29 pm
by Screw_Michigan
mvscal wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Personally, I'm hoping his neck is broken and he spends the rest of his life communicating to his caregivers with blinks of his eyes and shitting into a bag.
That's a reach. When did you turn into some skirt-wearing nancy?

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:49 pm
by mvscal
Since when did being a cheap-shotting bitch become 'manly'?

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:54 pm
by Screw_Michigan
mvscal wrote:Since when did being a cheap-shotting bitch become 'manly'?
He steps on a quarterback's leg and you then wish him paralyzation and a life time of shitting in a bag.

Quite the reach, even for a shitbag like you.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:00 pm
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Suh's first step might have been an accident. The second? Absolutely not. He's a dirty player, despite what any apologists might say. Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Too bad nobody cut blocked your balls off before you procreated.
I've never procreated, you ignorant little twat.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:45 am
by Sirfindafold
Goober McTuber wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Suh's first step might have been an accident. The second? Absolutely not. He's a dirty player, despite what any apologists might say. Hopefully someone cut blocks his knee(s).
Too bad nobody cut blocked your balls off before you procreated.
I've never procreated, you ignorant little twat.
no surprise.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:23 am
by poptart
mvscal wrote:Personally, I'm hoping his neck is broken and he spends the rest of his life communicating to his caregivers with blinks of his eyes and shitting into a bag.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:16 pm
by BSmack
Joe in PB wrote:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 6485016576

While I don't condone what Suh did, I do think it's the right decision since a suspension would have negatively impacted the competitive integrity of the Cowboys/Lions game.
And that's a job for the referees, not the commissioner.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:39 pm
by Goober McTuber
BSmack wrote:
Joe in PB wrote:https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 6485016576

While I don't condone what Suh did, I do think it's the right decision since a suspension would have negatively impacted the competitive integrity of the Cowboys/Lions game.
And that's a job for the referees, not the commissioner.
Bullshit. The referees often miss flagrant shit that happens on the field. That's why the league office needs to step in from time to time.

In this case, they were right to suspend him. But 3 people from the Lions' front office showed up for the appeal and cried that the absence of Suh would cause significant hardship to the Lions team. Boo-fucking-hoo. It's not his first offense.

They fined him $70,000 which means they believe he was guilty, The suspension should have stood. Just one more fuck-up from Roger Goodell's NFL.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:50 pm
by poptart
Suh was sobbing like a bitch in the post game press meeting.


:lol:

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:12 pm
by BSmack
Goober McTuber wrote:Bullshit. The referees often miss flagrant shit that happens on the field. That's why the league office needs to step in from time to time.
You do realize the call I speak of?

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:03 pm
by Goober McTuber
BSmack wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Bullshit. The referees often miss flagrant shit that happens on the field. That's why the league office needs to step in from time to time.
You do realize the call I speak of?
You were replying to a post about Suh's suspension being lifted, so I have to assume you were talking about Suh stepping on Rodgers.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:45 pm
by BSmack
Joe spoke of the competitive integrity of the Lions-Cowboys game, something that the referees compromised more completely than any Suh suspension could have ever accomplished.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:46 pm
by Goober McTuber
BSmack wrote:Joe spoke of the competitive integrity of the Lions-Cowboys game, something that the referees compromised more completely than any Suh suspension could have ever accomplished.
Wow. That's what you were trying to communicate? Fascinating.

Re: Ndamukong Suh....

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:12 pm
by Shoalzie
I don't think Mosley or Fluellen or whoever else would've played for Suh would have occupied the Cowboys' best two lineman for the majority of the game. The biggest pressure came from the edge. Suh didn't have a massive impact in terms of making plays but the Cowboys had to account for him.

To say him playing an entire game balances out an obvious blown call...I feel the Lions wouldn't have been in that game without him. He's going to be a big loss to their defense if he defects this spring.

The missed call(s) were costly but they didn't put the Cowboys in the end zone. The Lions are culpable for not overcoming that tough break. The game could still been won in spite of the call. I don't want to go away from that game playing the victim card...a big part of the loss was their inability to close out the game.