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How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:26 pm
by smackaholic
file your taxes?

As is typically the case, I am just now doing my taxes.

I fukking dread it.

Part of it is my fault, being an ADHD addled tard that breaks out in a sweat whenever I have to do any sort of paperwork. I think I'd rather be a ren-faire groupie than an accountant. I absolutely hate that shit. Doing expense reports at the moment. Hate it, but, at least it is a legitimate part of my job.

But, even folks who are decent at that sort of thing are likely cringing at the thought of doing this bullshit.

I am a regular working shlub. Not a bidness owner. Don't have any income properties. Doing my taxes should take about 3 minutes. Actually, I really shouldn't even have to "do taxes". In a sane world, each week taxes would be withheld from my paycheck and that would be the end of it. My mortgage interest, savings interest, eco-bullshit purchases, number of chillins, etc should have fukk all to do with it.

So, how much time/money do you dweebs put into it?

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:18 pm
by Goober McTuber
Download TaxAct. Takes me an hour or two. It's a long form, but straight forward. Mortgage interest, state taxes, charitable deductions, 529s for the grandkids. Spend the most time figuring out how much I can safely fudge the charity donations.

Oh yeah. $15 for the software with one free e-file, and $10 for the second e-file.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:27 pm
by Wolfman
The cost of a postage stamp and envelope/ink. Almost forgot the cost of paper I used to print up forms and needed work sheets. Bastards don't even have them available at the library, let alone mail them to us like they did for years. I was also H&R Dad for years for my kids. When I moved here in 2001, I sent them all their records and cut the cord. I paid H and R Block one year, and decided I could do as good a job as their flunkies could do.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:19 pm
by smackaholic
goobs, I have pretty much what you are talking about free, being an active Navy Reservist. Still sucks more than it ought. That is the part that pisses me off. I get a fukking headache reading the instructions.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:22 pm
by Left Seater
Frigging IRS.

My tax filings are a mess and the IRS doesn't know how to handle all of it either.

As some of you know I act as the travel agent for a professional hockey team. Since this position is deemed "operations" by most states it is subject to the rock and jock tax. So the hockey team handles my tax filings for all the states that want a part of the rock and jock earnings. They then send me the federal info and I add to that.

My football officiating is all 1099 income and so that requires some work but isn't all that difficult. Then I add in my flying income and my wife's income and we start to get the ball rolling.

I have learned my lesson and have started adding the email guidance provided by the IRS in preparing my return to the actual return. So when they decide something isn't correct, I just point them to employee ABC and tell them to take it up inside the building. It doesn't always work, but it usually saves interest and penalties.

I finished my taxes back in early March, but I will not pay them until Wed. They will also be paid with a mileage earning instrument so at least I will get a small something for this.

I am all for a flat tax that has zero deductions and is completely payroll based.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:25 pm
by Goober McTuber
smackaholic wrote:goobs, I have pretty much what you are talking about free, being an active Navy Reservist. Still sucks more than it ought. That is the part that pisses me off. I get a fukking headache reading the instructions.
Yeah, it's a little bit harder than your average online civics test.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:55 pm
by Wolfman
The wackiest part for me is the convoluted method to determine how much of my social security payments are taxable. Paying taxes on your taxes. Nice.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:47 pm
by R-Jack
20 minutes. No cost.

$5k back

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:47 pm
by Wolfman
$5K refund? I'm not a tax scholar, but something tells me your withholding is too much.

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:00 pm
by Y2K
Wolfman wrote:$5K refund? I'm not a tax scholar, but something tells me your withholding is too much.
Maybe not

I was going to pay around $800 but got the tax credits for my kid being in college..and ended up with a nice refund.

Taxes are just that way. batshit crazy.
I file with turbotax every year, cost about $75.00 for Fed and state and I spend a few hours getting all the write offs together. The import the W-2 option does not suck.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:42 pm
by Y2K
88 wrote:Tax refunds are repaid interest free loans you provided to da gubmint.
so they're almost like putting money in the bank just a little worse.. :)

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:21 pm
by R-Jack
It was definitely a withholding issue. A strategic one at that.

Between selling my house and moving, I didn't want to come up scraping by tax time, especially with a couple deductions off the table now.

So instead of actually managing my finances, I went the dummy route and did what 88 said. Wouldn't spend it if I didn't see it.

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:02 am
by Diego in Seattle
Wolfman wrote:Bastards don't even have them available at the library, let alone mail them to us like they did for years.
So where am I to get a 1040EZ form?

Sin,
Melton

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:29 pm
by BSmack
I'd rather get some refund than get hit with New York's insufficient withholding penalties. They nailed me with that when I got my lump sum severance package. Fuckers.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:28 pm
by Screw_Michigan
They already have that: The presidential election campaign.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:02 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Too bad for the D opposition, I think that's good news.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:39 pm
by Dinsdale
Screw_Michigan wrote:Too bad for the D opposition, I think that's good news.
A rare RACK for the D's.

Yet another example of the government telling you one thing, then doing another. It says you're donating to a campaign fund -- who thought it was OK to divert it to somewhere else, regardless how good a cause it is. If someone wanted their dollar to go to cancer research, check a box for "cancer research."

But it's OK to lie, as long as you believe in the cause, right?

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:02 pm
by BSmack
I might check a box for cancer research. I'll never check a box for the campaign fund.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:19 pm
by Goober McTuber
I'll scratch out a check to Susan G. Komen, and trust that it will be better spent than by Uncle Sam.

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:54 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:I'll scratch out a check to Susan G. Komen, and trust that it will be better spent than by Uncle Sam.
Your trust is misplaced.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:34 pm
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I'll scratch out a check to Susan G. Komen, and trust that it will be better spent than by Uncle Sam.
Your trust is misplaced.
Do tell.

With facts, please.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:47 pm
by BSmack

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:13 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I'll scratch out a check to Susan G. Komen, and trust that it will be better spent than by Uncle Sam.
Your trust is misplaced.
Do tell.

With facts, please.
Crack a newspaper sometime, then go fuck yourself.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:36 pm
by BSmack
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Bastards don't even have them available at the library, let alone mail them to us like they did for years.
So where am I to get a 1040EZ form?

Sin,
Melton
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Form-1040EZ,-Inc ... Dependents

I think this would work for him

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:54 pm
by smackaholic
I used to think that people that did it R-jack's way and overwithheld as a form of savings were dumbasses. But now that savings accounts pay approximately jackfukkingshit APR interest, it really isn't a bad option, especially when the gubmint whacks you for underwithholding as the fukks have done me....again. :oops:

Between the feds and state, my checking acct is a little over 9G lighter.

Feck. :twisted:

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:08 pm
by Moving Sale
R-Jack wrote:It was definitely a withholding issue. A strategic one at that.

Between selling my house and moving, I didn't want to come up scraping by tax time, especially with a couple deductions off the table now.
So you are now just a father and no longer a dad. At least you have more time to play the ponies.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:14 pm
by R-Jack
Or from being a homeowner to becoming a renter, as stated above.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:39 pm
by Screw_Michigan
R-Jack wrote:Or from being a homeowner to becoming a renter, as stated above.
Do you have your own W/D?

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:44 am
by R-Jack
Yep. No coin-op :hfal: :bode: :hfal:

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:09 am
by Screw_Michigan
Super jelly.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:41 am
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Your trust is misplaced.
Do tell.

With facts, please.
Crack a newspaper sometime, then go fuck yourself.
No, seriously, slappy. Provide a link. Some substantiation for your innuendo. Separate yourself from the rest of our current "journalists". Do you have any kind of link whatsoever to discredit the work of the Komen Foundation? Anything? I doubt it. That foundation works at local levels. Let's see your evidence, you wet-brained fucktard.

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:26 am
by Screw_Michigan
Did you read BSuck's link, idiot? Komen is well know for lots of overhead, definitely a red flag when it comes to charities. Do your own fucking legwork, cunt. Your ignorance is not my problem.

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:37 am
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:Did you read BSuck's link, idiot? Komen is well know for lots of overhead, definitely a red flag when it comes to charities. Do your own fucking legwork, cunt. Your ignorance is not my problem.
You obviously didn't read it, you fucking mongoloid. It had nothing to do with overhead.
Some affiliates publicly objected in early February after the national headquarters tried to implement a new policy that would have prohibited the local chapters from financing programs by organizations under government investigation. The policy change threatened 19 Planned Parenthood programs that had received grants from Komen affiliates. Although Planned Parenthood was not the subject of an official investigation at the time, a Republican congressman, Cliff Stearns of Florida, was looking into whether the group had spent public money on abortions.

Having failed to anticipate a backlash among affiliates and the public, Komen headquarters compounded the problem, local officials said, by acting too slowly to apologize and reverse course.
Yeah, you're a fucking journalist. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:28 pm
by Left Seater
Your trust is misplaced.

Do tell.

With facts, please.

Crack a newspaper sometime, then go fuck yourself.

No, seriously, slappy. Provide a link. Some substantiation for your innuendo. Separate yourself from the rest of our current "journalists". Do you have any kind of link whatsoever to discredit the work of the Komen Foundation? Anything? I doubt it. That foundation works at local levels. Let's see your evidence, you wet-brained fucktard.

Screwy are you trying to compare Komen to other charities or to the Feds like it appears you were above? Yes, Komen has a larger overhead than does other charities of similar size, but they also have a far far better brand recognition than similar sized charities. That was a choice their leadership made.

But to compare them to the Feds is laughable. The worst estimates have Komen spending 40% on overhead and 60% on research and programs. That is a number the Feds can only dream about. The Feds ratio is reversed at best.

So what were you trying to say?

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:36 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Never compared them to the feds, idiot. Nice reach.

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:22 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:I'll scratch out a check to Susan G. Komen, and trust that it will be better spent than by Uncle Sam.
Your trust is misplaced.
Screw_Michigan wrote:Never compared them to the feds, idiot. Nice reach.

Yeah, you never compared them to the Feds... :meds:


That or you suck with words, which given your job...well nevermind.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:34 pm
by Goober McTuber
Not to mention the fact that while Komen is a national organization, the majority of the funds raised locally are dispersed locally. Local organization may do even better than 60-40. I'll see if I can get numbers for our local affiliate.
Up to 75% of the net proceeds generated by the South Central WI Affiliate stays in our service area of Dane, Rock, Sauk, Dodge, Iowa, Grant, Columbia and Jefferson Counties to fund breast health education and breast cancer screening and treatment programs. Total local grants funded to date: $5.8 million

The remaining 25% goes to the National Susan G. Komen grants program to fund breast cancer research programs These funds do not cover expenses; our national office is responsible for their own expenses.
Screwy just sucks. Period.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:49 pm
by Jay in Phoenix
Not only that, but as a journalist, Screwy makes a fine jizz mopper.

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:58 pm
by Goober McTuber
Goober McTuber wrote:Not to mention the fact that while Komen is a national organization, the majority of the funds raised locally are dispersed locally. Local organization may do even better than 60-40. I'll see if I can get numbers for our local affiliate.
Up to 75% of the net proceeds generated by the South Central WI Affiliate stays in our service area of Dane, Rock, Sauk, Dodge, Iowa, Grant, Columbia and Jefferson Counties to fund breast health education and breast cancer screening and treatment programs. Total local grants funded to date: $5.8 million

The remaining 25% goes to the National Susan G. Komen grants program to fund breast cancer research programs These funds do not cover expenses; our national office is responsible for their own expenses.
Screwy just sucks. Period.
Hey Screwball, I got an answer to my email:

Thank you for your question. As a national organization, Susan G. Komen spends 17 cents of every dollar on fundraising and administrative costs, while 83 cents go directly to mission. None of the funds we raise at our Affiliate events such as the Race for the Cure or Football 101 go to any administrative costs at the headquarters level. You can learn more about our organization at Komen.org.

More to your question, 25% of our Affiliate's net proceeds go directly to the National Komen Grants Program to fund research. To date, our Affiliate has contributed $1.9 Million to this program. The remaining 75% stays right here in our eight county service area in the form of local grants. In 2015-2016 we will award $438,574 in local grants. CLICK HERE to learn more about our current grantees. In our 18 year history, our Affiliate has granted over $5 Million to local programs.

I hope this helps with your recruiting effort, and I appreciate you asking the question.
Still think my trust is misplaced, tard?

Re: How much time/money are you spending to.....

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:56 am
by Diego in Seattle
88 wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Still think my trust is misplaced, tard?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... bbons.aspx
That reminds me of this column written by Seattle Times columnist Ron Judd in 2009:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-new ... a-pay-cut/

Instead of asking for money, maybe the USOC officers should take a pay cut

COO Norman Bellingham's $663,369 tops a list of eight USOC officers who made more than $300,000 in 2008
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Keep a grip on your wallet, Olympics fans.

Hoping to tug at your patriotic heartstrings, the U.S. Olympic Committee is about to launch a big fundraiser: “America Supports Team USA.”

Nothing wrong with that. It costs money to field strong Olympic teams, and the U.S. Olympic Committee, which raises almost all its money through fundraising, broadcast revenues and sponsorships, always seems to be in need of more. Especially now, when many athletes are struggling to make ends meet because of the recession and dried-up sponsorships.

But a look at the annual tax reports filed by the USOC as a nonprofit might make Americans think twice before opening their checkbooks.

Eight USOC officers made more than $300,000 in 2008. And those were the paupers. Chief operating officer Norman Bellingham took home $663,369; former CEO Jim Scherr, $619,507; former communications officer Darryl Seibel, $367,779; chief of international relations Robert Fasulo, $356,214.

On and on, with 19 topping the $200,000 mark. (See the full salarly list on the Olympics Insider blog, http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/r ... csinsider/.) And nearly all of them live in Colorado Springs, Colo., which is nowhere near the top of anyone’s high-cost-of-living list.

Is anyone else taken aback by those numbers? The COO of the nonprofit U.S. Olympic Committee pushing $700K a year? Its spokesperson pulling down $368K?

Is this the USOC, or AIG?

Not only are USOC executive salaries failing to decline in recessionary times, they’re going hellbent in the other direction. Bellingham, for instance, got a 63 percent raise from 2007 to 2008, federal reports indicate.

Even Scherr, ousted in a palace coup by his board of directors, apparently led by new interim CEO Stephanie Streeter, got a 10.5 percent bump last year. And Seibel, who left the Colorado Springs offices last week under what can charitably be described as odd circumstances, got a 7.8 percent increase.

Overall, USOC salaries rose from $35 million to $39 million in 2008.

This is not by accident. It’s by design.

In a teleconference Friday, Streeter staunchly defended the high-and-rising USOC pay structure.

“I believe that they are justified,” she said. “We have a significant amount of talent we’re trying to attract from both the sports, corporate and other worlds. It’s my opinion that you get what you pay for.”

National surveys, she added, indicate USOC salaries are “not out of line” with other nonprofits.

But they probably seem out of line to lower-rung people in the Olympic movement, many of whom work for a relative pittance, and believe working for the USOC, or for a sport’s national governing body, is a privilege.

Still, it’s tough to argue that those big USOC salaries are draining funds from athletes. In fact, the USOC’s four-year financing for the national governing bodies of winter sports headed into Vancouver 2010 is 55 percent more than the same sports received in the leading into the 2006 Turin Games.

“The athletes,” Streeter said, “are my top priority.”

No evidence suggests otherwise. But the USOC pay figures still seem high — particularly at a time when corporate America is cutting back, and major USOC sponsors such as Home Depot and Bank of America are bailing out.

Add the sheer-gall factor. Does the USOC really expect citizens to make “charitable” contributions to an organization whose leaders are taking home 600K a year?

Streeter sees no such contradiction. Bottom line: “We’re comfortable with what we’re paying people,” she said.

Maybe that’s because she’s sharing the wealth — although we don’t know how fully. Streeter, the head of an organization that’s made a much-vaunted push for “transparency” in recent years, refused to divulge her own salary when queried about it Friday, telling a reporter to wait until the USOC is forced to divulge it in IRS-required paperwork.

“You’ll see it in the [Form] 990s when it’s published next year,” she said.

Touché.

But in the news business, that’s called creating an issue. And for Streeter, creating this one — while holding out a hand and asking for disposable cash from a nation with 10 percent unemployment — is poor timing, at best.