He couldn't carry Bonzo's bottle of Jack Daniels, much less When The Levee Breaks.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:14 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Well, he's right.
A little hypercritical about metal, but still...
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:36 am
by Joe in PB
Not a surprising comment really, & probably should be expected from Baker & Bruce who were most popular w/ Cream. Why is it the way it is? Cream didn't stay together very long, while Led Zeppelin did, and ended up much more popular. I saw Page & Plant in the early 90's, and remember thinking they sounded just like off the album, now I wonder how much of that was computer generated. If I had the choice to see Zeppelin, or Bonamassa, or Tedeschi Trucks now, I'd choose Bonamassa or TT, who are better musicians and at their peak. Not sure what you'd really get with Zeppelin, but tape loops or computer generated music looms large with them IMO. Most of their albums including their live release, How the West was Won were over dubbed.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:19 pm
by BSmack
Joe in PB wrote:Not a surprising comment really, & probably should be expected from Baker & Bruce who were most popular w/ Cream. Why is it the way it is? Cream didn't stay together very long, while Led Zeppelin did, and ended up much more popular. I saw Page & Plant in the early 90's, and remember thinking they sounded just like off the album, now I wonder how much of that was computer generated. If I had the choice to see Zeppelin, or Bonamassa, or Tedeschi Trucks now, I'd choose Bonamassa or TT, who are better musicians and at their peak. Not sure what you'd really get with Zeppelin, but tape loops or computer generated music looms large with them IMO. Most of their albums including their live release, How the West was Won were over dubbed.
I've listened to enough Leppelin bootlegs to know they were a great live band even before Page got his hands on the tapes.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:40 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
BSmack wrote:...they were a great live band...
We've done this before. No, they weren't.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:03 am
by War Wagon
Joe in PB wrote: I saw Page & Plant in the early 90's
Regardless of what you saw or heard, it damn sure wasn't Led Zeppelin.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:08 am
by Joe in PB
War Wagon wrote:
Joe in PB wrote: I saw Page & Plant in the early 90's
Regardless of what you saw or heard, it damn sure wasn't Led Zeppelin.
Their music sounded just like the albums, like they never broke up, or missed a beat....or Bonham. Probably tape loops, I'm sure Plant can't sing like he used to, even back then. Led Zeppelin II was my favorite album from them.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:57 pm
by BSmack
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
BSmack wrote:...they were a great live band...
We've done this before. No, they weren't.
I have many HOURS of evidence to the contrary.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:08 pm
by Jay in Phoenix
Gotta concur here, I don't know where Marty is coming from. I'm not a big Zep fan at all, but it doesn't take much listening to realize how great they were. Did Page and company steal some riffs? You betcha. Lots of bands borrow from others, but they did what did very very well.
Just watch the Song Remains the Same for proof.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:10 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Sudden Sam wrote:...when I saw them...
That night:
Nice aperture setting there, Sudden Milton.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:12 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Jay in Phoenix wrote:...but it doesn't take much listening to realize how great they were.
In the studio.
Their live recordings are generally a hot mess, with the exception of a few pre-1972 performances.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:30 pm
by War Wagon
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Jay in Phoenix wrote:...but it doesn't take much listening to realize how great they were.
In the studio.
Their live recordings are generally a hot mess, with the exception of a few pre-1972 performances.
With few exceptions, you just like being a wet blanket contrarian Canuck.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Greases the roller bearings, it does.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:11 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
War Wagon wrote:...contrarian Canuck.
Not this time.
I stand behind what I say. There's a ton of bands of Zeppelin's era (and genre) that put on tighter shows.
Listen to Zappa. Now that's a tight live show that doesn't sacrifice "grooveability ".
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:28 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
...but still, I wouldn't have minded partying with Zep back in the day...
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:04 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
I like "improv", but improv doesn't cover "sloppy".
You want good Zeppelin? Here:
...particularly "How Many More Times".
And I'll agree with you on Royal Albert Hall '70
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:25 am
by War Wagon
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
You want good Zeppelin? Here:
I've seen, heard and posted about that Danish gig before.
But far from calling it glass dick, it's always nice to see it again.
You can run from Zep but you can't hide, comrade.
Re: Baker Bashes Bonham...Again
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:06 pm
by Goober McTuber
Here's an old Rolling Stone article about Ginger that's still entertaining.
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:I like "improv", but improv doesn't cover "sloppy".
You want good Zeppelin? Here:
...particularly "How Many More Times".
And I'll agree with you on Royal Albert Hall '70
Just off the top of my head, and my collection, here are some more shows I find to be excellent.
1973-01-22 - Southampton, UK
1973-05-14 - New Orleans, LA
1973-05-18 - Dallas, TX
1979-07-23 - Copehnagen
1977-06-21 - Los Angeles, CA
1977-04-27 - Cleveland, OH
1975-05-25 - London, England