T1B

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:28 am**

Our friend poptart has spent a lot of time in the figurative hot seat lately, and has, in my opinion, done an admirable job of trying to defend his positions. I'm one of those who doesn't buy what he's selling, but I'm not so interested in his ideas as I am in what it is that may lead him to espouse them. I believe I ran across a clue, appropriately enough, in Arthur Conan Doyle's first Sherlock Holmes novel.

We must first try to understand 'tart's motives. He's a proselytizer trying to save souls, and has a laser focus on achieving that goal. Given that, let's examine a passage from chapter 2 of A Study in Scarlet entitled "The Science of Deduction," where Dr. Watson is trying to explain to the reader some of his observations about Sherlock Holmes:

His ignorance was as remarkable as his knowledge. Of contemporary literature, philosophy and politics he appeared to know next to nothing. Upon my quoting Thomas Carlyle, he inquired in the naivest way who he might be and what he had done. My surprise reached a climax, however, when I found incidentally that he was ignorant of the Copernican Theory and of the composition of the Solar System. That any civilized human being in the nineteenth century should not be aware that the earth travelled round the sun appeared to me such an extraordinary fact that I could hardly realize it. "

"You appear to be astonished," he said, smiling at my expression of surprise. "Now that I do know it I shall do my best to forget it."

"To forget it!"

"You see," he explained, "I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things so that he has difficulty in laying his hands upon it. Now the skillful workman is very careful indeed as to what he takes into his brain-attic. He will have nothing but the tools which may help him in doing his work, but of these he has a large assortment, and all in the most perfect order. It is a mistake to think that that little room has elastic walls and can distend to any extent. Depend upon it there comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones."

"But the Solar System!" I protested.

"What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work."

Having the knowledge of the solar system or of the true nature of the universe makes not a pennyworth of difference to poptart in his mission of converting non-believers of the bible to believers, so he has elbowed out that knowledge. Our trying to wedge that knowledge back into his brain-attic will forever be futile, because in his line of work, it is a completely useless tool ('sup, Milton?).

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:42 pm**

Same thing as everybody else here. He's trolling.

Consider how often his belief in silly fairy tales is challenged and ridiculed. He's attempting to turn the tables and get the same people to defend their belief in science. Unfortunately for his cause, science isn't predicated on faith or belief.

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:03 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote:What the deuce

Posted: **Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:19 pm**

mvscal wrote:Same thing as everybody else here. He's trolling.

Consider how often his belief in silly fairy tales is challenged and ridiculed. He's attempting to turn the tables and get the same people to defend their belief in science. Unfortunately for his cause, science isn't predicated on faith or belief.

Well of course he is, otherwise his efforts over the last couple of weeks suggest madness.

It's nice Brother Smackie is holding out some respectful hope for this loony tune, however I would suggest simply ignoring each and ever subsequent post from this crazy ass rim job.

As the wise admonition goes, "Do not feed the troll."

Time to put the feedbag down.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:31 am**

poptart isn't trolling.
He also (a small, inner rational self) understands the reality of the physical universe.

His show is a textbook "article of faith".
Before the entire world, he announces (in the omnipresence of his Master), that incontrovertible evidence aside, the Word Of God shall transcend even the apparent reality that surrounds him.
He is a "true believer". This is a far more fascinating study for students of psychoanalysis than merely having a mob berate his "primitive" thinking.

I don't suppose many, or any of you, sincerely appreciate what you're witnessing here.
Id, Ego, Super-Ego

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:03 am**

Oh no Marty, I very much accept what we are "appreciating" here, for lack of a more appropriate word.

I and my immediate family were fortunate enough to be exposed to one of the foremost psychologists in mental health history. I will hold back his name, for the moment, as it would disrespect his work to mention it here. Suffice it to say, there is a world wide foundation dedicated to his name in the field of psychological research and psychiatric therapy.

What I am leading to is the subsequent posts of your "true believer" are backing a "true delusional mind", and as such, reduce his suggested "Id or ego", into their compartmentalized containers of mythical confusion and institutionalized madness. The essence of Stockholm Syndrome and religious or prison isolation.

What we are witnessing here is a perfect example of these conditions.

But go ahead and support what you don't understand Perk.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:56 am**

The thread is entertaining.
Very.

T1B members playing armchair psychiatrist.

Now you know, not to be judgmental -- because I am really not.
But I can observe things, so I will.

I do think that most who have chimed in have divorced.
Not really had a good handle on their own self, one might say.

Others in this thread are middle-aged stoners.
I'm sure they have a very good handle on their own personal thing, as well.
lolz

Look people, I know the drill, believe me.
Your lives are crumbling around you.

If you were really on top of things, you'd take some serious time to read and digest things I've posted the past few weeks.

The truth has never been easily or well received.
This is all very predictable.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:40 am**

poptart wrote: Now you know, not to be judgmental -- because I am really not.
Your lives are crumbling around you.
This is all very predictable.

poptart wrote:

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into
the lake of fire

- Revelation 20:15

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:04 am**

I'm no better or worse than anyone else, AP.
We all come from the same spiritual background.

God has shown us His salvation for us.
Jesus surely proved Himself fully as Christ.

We must identify this and claim it.
That's all.

Revelation 20:15 is basic reality.

Posted: **Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:54 pm**

poptart wrote:Now you know, not to be judgmental -- because I am really not.
But I can observe things, so I will.

I do think that most who have chimed in have divorced.
Not really had a good handle on their own self, one might say.

Others in this thread are middle-aged stoners.
I'm sure they have a very good handle on their own personal thing, as well.
lolz

Yeah we get it. The whole glass house and stone thing.

Sure, we are unstable people. The whole lot of us, each in our own different ways. That said......who's better to recognize crazy than us?

When the consensus among all the unstable, inadequate and otherwise flawed individuals here can independently and universally recognize one person's lunacy.............you very well could be a fucking nutjob.

Crazytown unanimously has made you king, and I don't think we are worshiping false idols.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:32 am**

Don't let the haters get you down, tart. Your intellect is wasted on these cretins who can't handle the search for truth and justice.

I've got your back, bro.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:10 am**

poptart wrote:
Others in this thread are middle-aged stoners.
I'm sure they have a very good handle on their own personal thing, as well.
lolz

If you were really on top of things, you'd take some serious time to read and digest things I've posted the past few weeks.

The truth has never been easily or well received.

I read what you said and took (parts of) it seriously. I just came to a different conclusion.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:12 pm**

Moving Sale wrote:
poptart wrote:
Others in this thread are middle-aged stoners.
I'm sure they have a very good handle on their own personal thing, as well.
lolz

If you were really on top of things, you'd take some serious time to read and digest things I've posted the past few weeks.

The truth has never been easily or well received.
I read what you said and took (parts of) it seriously. I just came to a different conclusion.

Despite your conclusions, if you've taken time to read (and watch) some of what I've posted, I must say that you are one of the smarter people on the board.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:45 pm**

poptart wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:
poptart wrote:
Others in this thread are middle-aged stoners.
I'm sure they have a very good handle on their own personal thing, as well.
lolz

If you were really on top of things, you'd take some serious time to read and digest things I've posted the past few weeks.

The truth has never been easily or well received.
I read what you said and took (parts of) it seriously. I just came to a different conclusion.
Despite your conclusions, if you've taken time to read (and watch) some of what I've posted, I must say that you are one of the smarter people on the board.

OK. Now you're totally trolling.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:59 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote:
poptart wrote: Revelation 20:15 is basic reality.
This sums up where you lose me, pops.

But I still love ya'.

Very considerate of you Sam. How 'tart reads that quote as anything but metaphoric fallacy is beyond reason.

He has lost every single person on this board and elsewhere with his rhetoric, but hey...love thy neighbor, no matter how sick or delusional he may be. I guess.

Posted: **Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:55 pm**

Yea lets all blow puptent because he sticks to his guns and really believes what he is says.
You people are retarded.

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