13 year olds chanting "BUILD THAT WALL" in a suburban Detroit middle school. This is where we have fallen.
13 year olds are pretty fucking clueless. When I was 13, this is what was I concerned about: Watching R rated movies (probably Skinimax), playing baseball and football with my friends, playing Sega Genesis and worrying about if I was going to get pizza with my school lunch. One thing that was the furthest from my mind: Immigration politics.
It's one thing for adults to be chanting this but it is completely another for 13 year olds to be chanting this AT SCHOOL. But then again, kids mimic what they see on TV and for the last 18 months they've watched our president elect and his racist supporters demonize others for the color of their skin.
I've seen Lars von Trier films less disturbing than that video.
Yikes.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:56 pm
by Go Coogs'
Wait, so I should draw these conclusions from a six second video? You mean to tell me they just started chanting this without provocation? Is that what I'm supposed to deduce from that six second video? Am I supposed to do the same when I saw the video of a man getting beaten to a pulp for voting for Donald Trump? No, I (being a reasonable and sound human-being) waited for all the facts to come out. The man in the video who was beaten was in a car accident and when he got out and asked if the other driver had insurance, they jumped him. It never had anything to do with Donald Trump.
Screwey, please go choke on a fully loaded 12-gauge you race baiting piece of shit.
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Re: Trump's America
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:27 pm
by Mikey
At least they weren't crying like a bunch of spoiled college students reacting like somebody stole their safe place.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:47 pm
by Mikey
Good thing I got my floor finished this week. Those guys may not be available in a couple of months.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:23 pm
by Rooster
The term "racist" has lost any and all sting or weight that it once had. The Left has used that word so freely and without regard to its' actual connotation that you may as well point your finger at someone and yell, "Human!"
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:44 pm
by Dinsdale
Rooster wrote:The term "racist" has lost any and all sting or weight that it once had.
It's actually lost its definition to to SJWs wanting to call those that disagree with them... something.
If I established residency in Mexico, I'm guessing these a process that I could go through to become a citizen (?). For good measure, I could then convert to Islam. Then, I'd be a Mexican and a Muslim.
And I'd still be the same race.
SJWs rarely exhibit much intelligence nor education.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:22 pm
by BSmack
schmick wrote:When you were 13 years old did you have to say the pledge in both English and spanish at school? Were you banned from playing football on the school fields during PE becase all of the ESL students thought of it as racist to play anything but socqueer? Were your school announcements in spanish?
Do you see how much Ronaldo makes? Hell yeah I wish our school and had a soccer team. I played football. I sucked. I did it to proove I could hack football. But I would have played Futbol had it been offered.
And it would have been really really cool if we had been bilingual. Because that's all of us could have walked out of school with the capability to get a job anywhere in the Western Hemisphere other than maybe Haiti. When the fuck did it become a bad thing to learn another language? Or for that matter to watch immigrants pledge loyalty to our country in their mother tongue?
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:33 pm
by smackaholic
You smug libs ought to listen to this bloke. He fukking nails it. Your 8 years of labeling every Obama critic racist has given you this.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:46 pm
by smackaholic
BSmack wrote:
schmick wrote:When you were 13 years old did you have to say the pledge in both English and spanish at school? Were you banned from playing football on the school fields during PE becase all of the ESL students thought of it as racist to play anything but socqueer? Were your school announcements in spanish?
Do you see how much Ronaldo makes? Hell yeah I wish our school and had a soccer team. I played football. I sucked. I did it to proove I could hack football. But I would have played Futbol had it been offered.
And it would have been really really cool if we had been bilingual. Because that's all of us could have walked out of school with the capability to get a job anywhere in the Western Hemisphere other than maybe Haiti. When the fuck did it become a bad thing to learn another language? Or for that matter to watch immigrants pledge loyalty to our country in their mother tongue?
I did play soccer.
I sucked.
Had I played football, I likely would have sucked just as you would have sucked at futbol. I suspect that had Ronaldo grew up in your town, he might have played football and likely would have been an all state wide receiver. Athletic ability knows no language or sport, other that body type, as Ronaldo would never have been good as a left tackle.
I agree that being bilingual would be cool. It certainly makes anyone more marketable in many places, but it should not be imposed on anyone. You should become bilingual because you chose to, not because you were forced to.
As for what tongue immigrants pledge their allegiance in, when it comes time to do so as a naturalized citizen, they had best be able to stumble through it in English.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:53 pm
by BSmack
I would have been a far better soccer player than a linebacker. But I didn't have that choice. I didn't have the choice to be in a bilingual environment. That literally is just the same thing as being forced to live in a bilingual environment. Ask Marty. Is he scarred because he had to learn French?
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:05 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
J'apprécie parler les langues de mon pays! N'est-ce pas?
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:06 pm
by Screw_Michigan
smackaholic wrote:
I agree that being bilingual would be cool. It certainly makes anyone more marketable in many places, but it should not be imposed on anyone. You should become bilingual because you chose to, not because you were forced to.
What a load of bullshit. Colleges and even many high schools have foreign language requirements. But I forget, Suckaholic is an oppressed white American male. Angry that he has to fight for economic success instead of sitting on his ass and having it handed to him at a 40 hour clip.
Police officer under investigation after flying Confederate flag at Trump protest rally
TRAVERSE CITY - The Traverse City police chief says the department will launch an internal investigation after a longtime officer was seen revving the engine of his pickup truck and flying a Confederate flag, as he drove past a black family participating in a rally at a city park.
Marshall Collins Jr. and his relatives were at Friday's gathering where people were protesting Donald Trump's election when he said the truck's driver came by once, then sped back past where his family was standing.
"As he came back by, I kind of stood out and I held up my fist very quietly. For me, that's a sign of solidarity and black pride. So that's what I did," said Collins, a father of two and an instructional services health coordinator for the Traverse Bay Area Intermediate School District.
He said the officer made a show of grabbing a beer and joining a small pro-Trump group in a parking area. That's when Collins said he decided to address the issue.
Collins said he asked the truck's driver - whom he did not know was an off-duty police officer - why he would bring the Confederate flag to a community gathering. "I said, 'Do you know what this represents? Do you understand the hatred?'"
"He said, 'You don't know the history of it ...That flag didn't do anything to you.'"
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:47 pm
by smackaholic
Screw_Michigan wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
I agree that being bilingual would be cool. It certainly makes anyone more marketable in many places, but it should not be imposed on anyone. You should become bilingual because you chose to, not because you were forced to.
What a load of bullshit. Colleges and even many high schools have foreign language requirements. But I forget, Suckaholic is an oppressed white American male. Angry that he has to fight for economic success instead of sitting on his ass and having it handed to him at a 40 hour clip.
What a good little authoritarian you are, screwey. I see why you moved to DC.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:59 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Poor you, suckaholic. So oppressed. Always a victim.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:56 pm
by Mikey
I had foreign language requirements in both HS and college. Not exactly a new Millennial Snowflakey thing. Probably fewer public schools requiring it these days mostly due to budget cuts.
But then I guess it should be optional. So should Math, English, History, PE, etc. I mean look how far suckaholic has come without learning any of those.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:08 pm
by smackaholic
Mikey wrote:I had foreign language requirements in both HS and college. Not exactly a new Millennial Snowflakey thing. Probably fewer public schools requiring it these days mostly due to budget cuts.
But then I guess it should be optional. So should Math, English, History, PE, etc. I mean look how far suckaholic has come without learning any of those.
I don't have a problem with a HS requiring one to study a foreign language. I do have a problem with them saying you must learn espanol, because you will need it to function in your area, because the place is being over-run by various spanish speakers.
I did grow up in a very bilingual environment and trust me, I wish I had taken advantage of it by learning more spanish than the obligatory swear words. With just the slightest bit of effort on my part, I could have been fluent in spanish...well, not spanish exactly, more like whatever it is that PRs speak, which according to actual spanish speaking folks I know, is sort of kind based on spanish....barely.
Mikey, a rudimentary amount of math should be mandatory. But not really much past arithmetic. Basic geometry/algebra maybe. English certainly should be. AMERICAN history should be. Beyond that, students should be able to diversify their learning as best possible.
A real liberal would agree.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:44 pm
by Moving Sale
Kids should be taught what a contract is. They should be taught about how compound interest works. They should taught the federalist papers together with the USC. They should be taight a comprehensive history of despots and their rise to power. They should be taught nutrition and anatomy.
Re: Trump's America
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:51 pm
by Dinsdale
MS with a post that's difficult to disagree with?
Dang, next you'll be telling me some douche from a reality show got elected president.