T1B

What a skittish thread title. Shlomo has really done a number on you, bro. :|

19. Took around 5 seconds.

Dinsdale wrote:19. Took around 5 seconds.

15

atmdad wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:19. Took around 5 seconds.

15

yup

Typo. But I'll take my lumps regardless.

actually there is not enough information, does the single wine glass symbol actually equal 1/2 the two wine glass symbol? Smackie, order of operations.

Hey dins, you might want to take a few more seconds next time through.

atmdad wrote:actually there is not enough information, does the single wine glass symbol actually equal 1/2 the two wine glass symbol? Smackie, order of operations.

That's the safe assumption, and I agree with your answer. I understand order of ops.

Not a logical assumption that the double wine glass symbol is supposed to be twice the single wine glass symbol. If it was then why would they put two of those together with a plus sign instead of just stringing four singles. Not consistent.

Unless it's a typo it would be more logical to assume, in the absence of any operator, that the wine glass is the square root of 2. Not likely though because these puzzles rarely deviate from integral components and solutions.

That being said, you need to consider the source. It probably has something to do with some obscure formula incorporating the 17 day moving average of the S&P500 compared to the current price of squirrel meat futures on the Chicago commodities exchange.

atmdad wrote:...the single wine glass...

"Single wine glass? I'm only familiar with the 4 gallon box with E-Z-carry-handle...you'll have to excuse me."

Sincerely, Goobs

Upon further review -- Mikey, Chanman, and Went Ass-To-Mouth On His Dad are correct. Using the symbols as variables, a wine glass is the square root of 2, as Mikey mentioned.


In other words -- the puzzle is shit.

The correct answer is whoever made up this puzzle is an idiot.
I found a site that had multiple choice and it claimed the answer is 60 :? :doh:

May be true. But in a different math world than most of us live in.

KC Scott wrote:

Mikey wrote:Not a logical assumption that the double wine glass symbol is supposed to be twice the single wine glass symbol. .

You aren't very good at this sort of thing either, are you?

Likely a lot better at it than you are. Still waiting with bated breath for your solution.

KC Scott wrote:

Mikey wrote:The correct answer is whoever made up this puzzle is an idiot.
I found a site that had multiple choice and it claimed the answer is 60 :? :doh:

May be true. But in a different math world than most of us live in.

LOL Stanford boy - you really needed search the interwebs for the answer?

Fucking hilarious

A + A + A = 30
A + B + B = 20
B + C + C = 9
B + ( 1/2 of C) *A = 60

A = 10
B = 5
C = 2

This thread turned into far more fun than I ever expected

Seriously?


You must have learned math at Trump University.

KC Scott wrote:Holy shit - I thought Smackie, Dan and Dins were 'supposed' to be smarter than a 6th grader?

Whereas no one here would ever make that mistake about you, and you've proven why. It actually appears 4th grade math is too advanced for you.

KC Scrote is not gifted in attention to detail.

-MA

I'm sorry, but unless you are reading a tax bill (from left to right), a dime plus a nickel does not equal $0.60.

KC Scott wrote:You couldn't get the puzzle

I did get it.

You wrote:much like the election and you're prediction on the Royals / Angels series, you don't like the result so now you just want sit around and complain

Link?

I'd explain to you the error you made, but atmdad already alluded to it, and besides, we do agree on one point:

You wrote:This thread turned into far more fun than I ever expected

I'll even give you a hint: PEMDAS

KC Scott wrote:

You couldn't get the puzzle, and much like the election and you're prediction on the Royals / Angels series, you don't like the result so now you just want sit around and complain

Typical Liberal

Doesn't understand one of the most basic rules of mathematics and doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're."

I'd say typical Trumpista but I'm pretty sure even the typical Trumpista gets those.
Typical brain damaged purse carrying lift and steam man-gazer maybe.

Sam--

Just like KC Scott, it's pretty simple and obvious to see that you are not good at basic math.

But you take it even a step further by not being very good at counting either.

This thread is a giant spider web catching all the idiots.

L45B wrote:KC Scott, you are not good at basic math.

But he is good at posting , so that makes up for his retardation.

You can't solve for the single glass. There isn't enough information to determine its' value.

KC Scott wrote:It's a puzzle not an algebraic equation

Hmmm...so it's a puzzle for which the solution is determined only by its creator, and the "logic" to the solution is what you posted here?

You wrote:A + A + A = 30
A + B + B = 20
B + C + C = 9
B + ( 1/2 of C) *A = 60

A = 10
B = 5
C = 2

I'll agree with you on the point that it's not an algebraic equation. It's simple arithmetic (no variables), and you're trying to prove you're right using arithmetic, which means the rules of arithmetic apply. That would mean ALL the rules, not just the ones you decide. You arrive at the values for A, B, and C using arithmetic, and they're the same values the rest of us arrived at. But then:

You wrote:you keep trying to apply your rules to the game rather than just play the game by the rules set forth

Those aren't "my" rules or "our" rules. They're universal rules that govern math. And what are "the rules set forth"? Who set them forth, and where are they? You say PEMDAS is not applicable here because it's a puzzle. WTF?!? In what world does

B + ( 1/2 of C) *A = 60

given the values for the letters and the basic rules of math? Why is PEMDAS not applicable given the rules that weren't set forth? Because you say so and you won't admit you're sportin' an extra chromosome? If it doesn't apply, the onus is on you to explain why. And "it's a puzzle" is not a sufficient explanation.

60

KC Scott wrote:You can learn to play by their rules and figure out how to win

Or, you can conclude that the person who created the puzzle was as much of a tard as you are and came up with an answer that makes no sense and can't be logically explained. There is that.

KC Scott wrote:Sorry this little life lesson has gotten you so upset, Spock

The "life lesson" of discovering you're mentally deficient was learned long ago, and was in no way upsetting to me. But because I'm the giving sort and this is the holiday season, I'll make one last, and undoubtedly futile, attempt to educate you.

This is not a puzzle once the simple task of determining the values of A, B, and C is complete. It then becomes a two-step mathematical operation expressed thusly:

5 + 1 * 10 = ?

At that point, it is irrelevant what the creator of the "puzzle" thinks. The rules of math are all that matter. You're trying to argue that the creator of the "puzzle" is allowed to reach whatever conclusion he wants based on some unstated rules and the fact that it's his puzzle. Sorry to break it to you, but it doesn't work that way. The fact that you say you initially came up with the right answer, but then changed it to agree with what the creator says is correct, just shows that you're a sheep who'll believe anything you're told rather than thinking for yourself. Again, not a "life lesson" recently discovered or in any way upsetting to me, and I have no doubt you'll vainly attempt to spin you're way out. You can't use the argument "it depends on how you look at the problem." It doesn't.

[M]ath won't work if you can't be sure of the answer, or if the exact same expression can be calculated so that you can arrive at two or more different answers.

You're welcome. Merry Christmas!

Problem with that SC is that the symbols represent something therefore this equation is algebra and the "x" is never used in algebra to represent "times" so this is an academic question not a mathematical one. That why it's called a puzzle.

T1B

this shithole has been around for 10 years?

Can someone check the math on that.

Wow, definitely not an impressive group of math scholars in this thread (fyi, algebra is math).

The puzzle happened to include some elementary arithmetic operations like multiplication ("x") and addition ("+"), thus it inherently requires a mathematical solution.

Moving Sale wrote:Problem with that SC is that the symbols represent something therefore this equation is algebra and the "x" is never used in algebra to represent "times" so this is an academic question not a mathematical one. That why it's called a puzzle.

Not quite sure what all that^ babble was about, but ultimately you still used the "x" to multiply. Isn't that partly how you arrived at the (wrong) answer of 60?

Not to give away the true ending to this puzzle, but as with anything in life, there are rules and established processes for solving logical problems. For instance, if one of you turds was at a wine tasting event, you would actually require the bartender to pour wine into your glass before you could physically drink wine out of your glass. Not sure if that will make sense to some of you.

That's it
Blame it on me because you can't read

Reading your 2nd grade drivel has absolutely no relevance to the rules of elementary mathematics.

a + b * c = b * c + a = c * b + a = a + c * b

5 + 1 * 10 = 1 * 10 + 5 = 10 * 1 + 5 = 5 + 10 * 1

candy + wine * snow = wine * snow + candy = snow * wine + candy = candy + snow * wine


The values / variables / symbols are insignificant, they all can change. The rules for math stay the same.

Any of you need to borrow some flash cards?

You didn't use an "x" and why is that?

Lights yet dumbfuck?

Moving Sale wrote: the "x" is never used in algebra to represent "times".

Not true.

Ok you got me
Yes I have heard of scientific notation
Again that's why this is a puzzle not a mathematical equation

atmdad wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:19. Took around 5 seconds.

15

My apologies Dins,

Considering the discussion that postulated that the single wine glass represents the square root of the value of two wine glasses instead of half the value of two wine glasses, then your original answer is damn close when rounding down to a whole integer. That is assuming you interpreted the "x" as the sign for a multiplicative operation as clearly distinguished in the algebraic problem/puzzle presented.

Mikey, I disagree that in the absence of an operator that it implies the square root. I would say it is the product of the forward higher tilting glass with that of the following lower tilted glass. The final equation only presents one of the variables, that we do not know. Only that the product of the two equal two. As the problem is presented there is no solution.

FUCK YOU SCOTT - Merry Christmas

The correct answer is clearly 60.

atmdad wrote:T1B

this shithole has been around for 10 years?

Can someone check the math on that.

You can't really say that it's been around for 10 years. It might just be the square root of 10 plus whatever change is in KC Scott's purse.

Let's try something a little different - defend your answer. The two front-runners are 15 and 60. KC Squat, MS, Whitey, and apparently the puzzle's creator are in Camp 60. Dins, atmdad, and I are in Camp 15. Regardless of your answer, you had to have made certain assumptions, employed a combination of mathematical and non-mathematical logic, played by some set of rules, and used a process to arrive at your answer.

My first step was to employ Occam's Razor. Next, I defined the symbols and made reasonable assumptions. Finally, I simply did the math according to basic universal rules (i.e., PEMDAS).

Assumptions

1. There is enough information provided to arrive at a solution.
2. Symbols: "+" means plus, "x" means times, and "=" means equals.
3. A=snowflake=10; B=candy cane =5; C=wine glass=1, using the same arithmetic logic Squat used. Basically, if two wine glasses have a value of 2, then half that many glasses have half the value using Occam's Razor.

Given these assumptions and the information provided, it ceases being a puzzle and becomes the simple arithmetic equation expressed as:

5 + 1 x 10 = ?

Using the universally accepted rule of PEMDAS, there is only one correct answer: 15.

MS - Despite your assertion that "this equation is algebra," it is not. Algebra uses variables. A, B, & C are all constants, and no variables are used. This is basic, 4th-grade arithmetic. Call it a "puzzle" that falls outside math logic all you want, since it obviously puzzles you. But you arrived at an answer, presumably using math, so defend it, since that's kinda what you do for a living. That and obfuscate evidence, which you're also doing here.

Anyone can try to make this more difficult than it actually is by introducing the possibility that square roots could be part of the "puzzle" (and some of you have), but why? It needlessly makes the puzzle more complicated, and makes an answer far more difficult to logically defend. It also requires assuming facts not in evidence, such as what the creator was thinking, and is not required to arrive at a logically sound and defensible solution.

If the answer of 15 is wrong given the set of reasonable assumptions made to arrive at it, the onus is on you to show me where I erred. If the answer of 60 is correct, defend it.

atmdad wrote:

atmdad wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:19. Took around 5 seconds.

15

My apologies Dins,

Considering the discussion that postulated that the single wine glass represents the square root of the value of two wine glasses instead of half the value of two wine glasses, then your original answer is damn close when rounding down to a whole integer. That is assuming you interpreted the "x" as the sign for a multiplicative operation as clearly distinguished in the algebraic problem/puzzle presented.

Mikey, I disagree that in the absence of an operator that it implies the square root. I would say it is the product of the forward higher tilting glass with that of the following lower tilted glass. The final equation only presents one of the variables, that we do not know. Only that the product of the two equal two. As the problem is presented there is no solution.

FUCK YOU SCOTT - Merry Christmas

You have a good point. I falsely assumed that the two wine glasses are equivalent, which they clearly are not. So we have a system of equations that is not solvable using the standard rules and conventions of math and/or algebra.

I guess that makes it a puzzle. And the answer is whatever iodotic conclusion Scrote decides to pull out of his purse on any given day.

The answer is parenthesis are a good thing. Use them.