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#8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:12 am
by Softball Bat
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Roger Federer rolled Marin Cilic in three comfortable sets for his eighth Wimbledon singles title.
It makes him the most prolific men's Wimbledon champ of all-time.

Going in, he, Pete Sampras, and Willie Renshaw all had seven singles titles.

Renshaw won his titles back in the day (1800's) when Wimbledon had a challenge round format.
The defending champ got a bye all the way to the final.
All the other slaps had to battle it out -- and then the prevailing slap went up against the defending champ, who had been resting up for almost 2 weeks (lol).
It was obviously a format which tilted the table drastically in favor of the reigning champion.

In the modern era, Pete and Roger are THE guys as far as Wimbledon goes.

Does Roger's eight title lift him over Pete as the top W dog?

They actually played each other at Wimbledon back when Federer was just coming up and Sampras was on his way out.
Roger won 7-5 in the 5th set.

Personally, I might rate Pete slightly higher on grass (Wimbledon) than Roger.
I think he was able to do more "easy" damage with his serve than Federer.
He had more blunt force and he was able to hold his serve in easier fashion.

Federer's forehand is wicked sick, though.
And his movement might be the best I've ever seen.
GREAT all-court player.
As complete a player as we'll ever see.


19 Grand Slam titles for Roger Federer.

#20 at the U.S. Open?

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:57 am
by Mikey
This is tennis. WGARA?

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:08 am
by Smackie Chan
Mikey wrote:This is tennis. WGARA?
Watching tennis leaves me flat.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:19 am
by BSmack
I always worry about Federer when he plays in the Australian Open. He's so close to the firmament. Could fall off at any moment.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:55 am
by Softball Bat
Right.
Would folks rather be discussing orange cock?

:)





Top 10 male tennis champions of the last 50 years

10. Mats Wilander - 7 slam titles, B. Becker and S. Edberg were considered for this spot
9. A. Agassi - Sampras' top rival, 8 slam wins, career slam
8. J. Connors - the Pete Rose of tennis, electric
7. I. Lendl - 8 straight U.S. Open finals
6. J. McEnroe - gifted, high-strung artist, greatest doubles player ever
5. N. Djokovic - racked up 12 grand slam titles, career slam
4. B. Borg - 5 straight Wimbledon wins, 6 French titles
3. R. Nadal - leads Federer head-to-head, 10 French titles, career slam
2. P. Sampras - dominant, 7 Wimbledon and 5 U.S. Open titles - zero French finals
1. R. Federer - most slams, career slam, best all-around player, imo



Rod Laver won the grand slam in 1969 and clearly would be ranked ahead of some (most, or even all) on this list, but he was really a part of the era before 1969 -- with Emerson, Rosewall, etc.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:15 am
by smackaholic
Sorry pop, but Borg will always be THE man at Wimbledon. His matches against MacEnroe were
Some of the best sports battles evah.


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Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:27 am
by Softball Bat
It was great stuff, yep.
Their '80 match was not only one of the most epic tennis matches ever, but one of the most epic sporting events ever, imo.

Thirty seven years ago...

They both played with a wood racquet.


Due to equipment upgrades and increased physical ability, the sport has changed dramatically.
The speed and power now is... well, too much.
It's mostly a racquet issue.

Nearly every match now is a baseline, western grip slugfest -- even on grass. Wtf? :(
Little variety and artistry left.
Serve and volley is a thing of the past.
Shame.

I don't think it's possible to put the equipment genie back in the bottle, but the sport would be better if the pro players had to play with wood racquets.



Bjorn Borg was a major stud.
You're right.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:00 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Mikey wrote:This is tennis. WGARA?

Why so foul? Try and show a little love.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:37 am
by Softball Bat
Advantage, Marty.

Check your ball toss, Mikey.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:01 pm
by Goober McTuber
Laver belongs somewhere on your list, probably 1a.
Rodney George Laver AC, (born 9 August 1938) is an Australian former tennis player widely regarded as one of the greatest in the history of the sport. He was the No. 1 ranked professional from 1964 to 1970, spanning four years before and three years after the start of the Open Era in 1968. He also was the No. 1 ranked amateur in 1961–62.

Laver's 200 singles titles are the most in tennis history. This included his all-time men's record of 10 or more titles per year for seven consecutive years (1964–70). He excelled on all of the court surfaces of his time: grass, clay, hard, carpet, and wood/parquet.

Despite being banned from playing the Grand Slam tournaments for the five years prior to the Open Era, he still won 11 singles titles. He is the only player to twice achieve the calendar-year Grand Slam, in 1962 and 1969, and the latter remains the only time a man has done so in the Open Era. He also won eight Pro Slam titles, including the "pro Grand Slam" in 1967, and he contributed to five Davis Cup titles for Australia during an age when Davis Cup was deemed as significant as the Grand Slams.
But this guy is definitely the best ever.

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Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:10 pm
by Softball Bat
I definitely agree with you on Laver.

Softball Bat wrote:Rod Laver won the grand slam in 1969 and clearly would be ranked ahead of some (most, or even all) on this list, but he was really a part of the era before 1969 -- with Emerson, Rosewall, etc.

In his era, Rod Laver was the total package.

Extraordinary shot-maker.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:45 pm
by Mikey
Papa Willie wrote:
Mikey wrote:This is tennis. WGARA?
If tennis was wearing Trump's dick - you'd LOVE IT!
I don't get it. You're the one polishing the Orange One's knob. Not me.
You were probably tuned into the women's golf US Open this weekend, though.

Re: #8

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:17 pm
by Goober McTuber
Mikey wrote:You were probably tuned into the women's golf US Open this weekend, though.
Kind of a no-brainer, what with all the Asian hotties.

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Re: #8

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:27 pm
by Carson
Softball Bat wrote:Advantage, Marty.

Check your ball toss, Mikey.
When Marty's on his game, you better be set for a matching pun at all times.

Re: #8

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:20 pm
by Mikey
Softball Bat wrote:Advantage, Marty.

Check your ball toss, Mikey.
Sorry, I'm not a ball tosser, I only play straight sets.

Maybe you and Marty should get together and share some love in the back court.

Re: #8

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:09 pm
by smackaholic
Softball Bat wrote:It was great stuff, yep.
Their '80 match was not only one of the most epic tennis matches ever, but one of the most epic sporting events ever, imo.

Thirty seven years ago...

They both played with a wood racquet.


Due to equipment upgrades and increased physical ability, the sport has changed dramatically.
The speed and power now is... well, too much.
It's mostly a racquet issue.

Nearly every match now is a baseline, western grip slugfest -- even on grass. Wtf? :(
Little variety and artistry left.
Serve and volley is a thing of the past.
Shame.

I don't think it's possible to put the equipment genie back in the bottle, but the sport would be better if the pro players had to play with wood racquets.



Bjorn Borg was a major stud.
You're right.
Didn't one game last about two weeks? I think there were 6 or 7 match points. I was a pretty damn casual fan but was absolutely riveted to it. It is arguably the best match in sports history. Right up there with Ali-Frazier or anything else.

How much do you think Bjorn had left in the tank? He could have been competitive on grass for at least another 5 years and who the hell knows on clay? maybe another decade.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:12 am
by Softball Bat
Yeah, Borg retired at age 26.
Physically he should have been a major factor for another 5 years.

It's rare for a man to win a major title over age 30.

He turned pro at age 16 - and had been a tennis machine for many years prior to turning pro.
So mental burnout, yeah, I sort of get it.


But retire at age 26?

Maybe he should have just taken a few months off completely -- and had some nice Swedish massage therapy. :)

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:25 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Great thread guys. It really helps to italicize the jokes otherwise the humor is just too complicated to identify.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:07 am
by Jay in Phoenix
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Great thread guys. It really helps to italicize the jokes otherwise the humor is just too complicated to identify.
Well, you certainly served that one up on a silver platter. You set a fine example for us all. With game like that, we are no match for you, at least within the board court of public opinion.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:54 am
by smackaholic
What's your point, Jay?

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:59 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Get fucked.

Am I doing it right?

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:56 am
by Mikey
Don't worry about Mgo. He's just a little tightly strung.

Fuck Photobucket BTW.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:48 pm
by Jay in Phoenix
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Get fucked.

Am I doing it right?
That was quite a racket you just made mgo. Did you suffer some kind of stroke?

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:13 am
by Softball Bat
poptart wrote:Top 10 male tennis champions of the last 50 years

10. Mats Wilander - 7 slam titles, B. Becker and S. Edberg were considered for this spot
9. A. Agassi - Sampras' top rival, 8 slam wins, career slam
8. J. Connors - the Pete Rose of tennis, electric
7. I. Lendl - 8 straight U.S. Open finals
6. J. McEnroe - gifted, high-strung artist, greatest doubles player ever
5. N. Djokovic - racked up 12 grand slam titles, career slam
4. B. Borg - 5 straight Wimbledon wins, 6 French titles
3. R. Nadal - leads Federer head-to-head, 10 French titles, career slam
2. P. Sampras - dominant, 7 Wimbledon and 5 U.S. Open titles - zero French finals
1. R. Federer - most slams, career slam, best all-around player, imo
Well, Rafa claimed Grand Slam title #16 on Sunday by winning his third U.S. Open.

Federer has 20.

Some Nadal fanboys say he is the GOAT because he leads R. Federer 23-14 head to head.


My rankings have not changed -- but major props to Raf Nadal.

The guy is hard core.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:05 pm
by L45B
poptart wrote: Well, Rafa claimed Grand Slam title #16 on Sunday by winning his third U.S. Open.
And he needed zero assistance from this heckler seated in the upper promenade.
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Re: #8

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:41 pm
by Softball Bat
Heckler gone wild...





Re: #8

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:31 pm
by Screw_Michigan
I'd rather talk womens' tennis. They're much more attractive.

Re: #8

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:46 pm
by L45B
Screw_Michigan wrote:I'd rather talk womens' tennis. They're much more attractive.
Do you prefer blondes...
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...or brunettes?
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Re: #8

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:26 am
by Rooster
Tennis = soccer = golf = NASCAR when it comes to watching it as a spectator, ace. I don't why the deuce anybody would do something so boring.

Re: #8

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:40 am
by Softball Bat
Tennis on TV has more appeal if you are a player of the sport.
I think it's similar for golf.

That said, the TV tennis product has declined significantly, imo.

Not nearly enough variations in style.
Everyone is a baseline banger -- slapping away as hard as they can with a western grip.
It sucks.

Looks not far off from table tennis.

It's a far cry from what it was in the ''70s and '80s.

Re: #8

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:31 am
by smackaholic
L45B wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:I'd rather talk womens' tennis. They're much more attractive.
Do you prefer blondes...
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...or brunettes?
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He said WOMENS'.