Says quite a lot that Diego compares cutting taxes to criminal behavior.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:05 pm
by Goober McTuber
Considering the level of our national debt, cutting taxes right now would be criminal. Cutting spending would be a better option.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:08 pm
by Left Seater
Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward. But neither party has shown they have the ability to do that.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:08 pm
by Moving Sale
They make 174 to 223 you fuckin dolt.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:35 pm
by ML@Coyote
You're both wrong. It's more like 2-3 million when you take into account bribes, favors, perks, and creative bookkeeping.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:40 pm
by Moving Sale
I was talking about their paycheck.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:45 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.
Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:39 pm
by Left Seater
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.
Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.
Symbolically sure. In practice not so much when you consider security and other such issues. But I am all for it.
The Essential Air Service is another one that should go tomorrow in all places but for maybe Alaska. Then reduce every department's budget by 15% tomorrow.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:42 pm
by Derron
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Derron wrote:Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.
I'm sure glad everything is hunky-dory over at the republitard tent....
As you swallow another load of mainstream media jizz that was just splatted all over your grille, then lick it off and hit the keyboard once again. It must be true..right ?? I mean it is on USA Todays website..
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:17 am
by Diego in Seattle
Derron wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Derron wrote:Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.
I'm sure glad everything is hunky-dory over at the republitard tent....
As you swallow another load of mainstream media jizz that was just splatted all over your grille, then lick it off and hit the keyboard once again. It must be true..right ?? I mean it is on USA Todays website..
I guess your concept of a legitimate news source is Breitbart. Pizzagate, anyone?
And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:01 am
by Left Seater
And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?
Well until lawyers like the midget quit bringing bogus lawsuits people are forced to lawyer up for this crap.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:30 am
by Moving Sale
I have never sued anyone, let alone for "bogus" reasons, but why let facts get in your way at this point.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:20 am
by Left Seater
It was a swipe at your industry.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:33 am
by Derron
Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your industry incompetent quackery scam
FTFY.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:36 am
by Derron
Left Seater wrote:
And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?
Well until lawyers like the midget quit bringing bogus lawsuits people are forced to lawyer up for this crap.
You notice how effectively he responds to the midget blast without mentioning him by nic. He knows his name. Scoreboard Lefty.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:13 am
by Moving Sale
Yes I know you all are obsessed with my body. It's about all you've talked about for years.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:17 am
by Moving Sale
Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your industry.
Then why didn't you cite 88? His firm has probably sued more people than I have.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:50 pm
by Goober McTuber
OK, fatboy, please explain how you are going to cut taxes and reduce the national debt?
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:35 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Goober McTuber wrote:OK, fatboy, please explain how you are going to cut taxes and reduce the national debt?
We already know the standard answer.
Lower taxes will lead to more money in peoples' pockets.
The problem w/ that tax cuts are directed mostly towards the 1%. And they tend to horde money than spend it (as well as buying expensive things, not many things).
The only thing "trickle-down economics" does is make the poor look like Trump's sexual fantasies.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:39 pm
by Goober McTuber
I know. I just wanted to see if Spray was dumb enough to believe in trickle down.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:29 pm
by Mikey
Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: cutting taxes right now would be criminal.
Weird. Because in another thread, you said:
Goober McTuber wrote:I am a libertarian.
I think you need to read up on the Libertarian handbook, dude...
He meant Librarian.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:00 pm
by Left Seater
Diego in Seattle wrote:
The problem w/ that tax cuts are directed mostly towards the 1%.
False. The truth is the 1% pay somewhere are 45% of the individual taxes. The top 20% pay somewhere around 84% of individual taxes. Or the bottom 80% of earners only pay a total of 16% of the individual taxes in a given year.
So any tax cuts are going to have a much larger impact on the higher earners since they are paying way more than their fair share.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:28 pm
by Moving Sale
What % of wealth do the top 1% have?
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:51 pm
by Goober McTuber
Papa Willie wrote:
Mikey wrote:
He meant Librarian.
I think you're right.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:05 pm
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote:What % of wealth do the top 1% have?
Who cares. Whatever they have has already been taxed.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:04 pm
by Moving Sale
At what %?
And what % of $ made last year was by the top 1%?
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:16 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Left Seater wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:What % of wealth do the top 1% have?
Who cares. Whatever they have has already been taxed.
If I was some Wall Street business-criminal and I was caught looting a hedge fund...
...and my prescribed penalty was to pay a 25% tax...
...I would outwardly grumble, all the while planning my next "business venture".
The super-rich have no national allegiance.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:14 pm
by Moving Sale
schmick wrote:Income tax should be 0%
Make up your mind dolt.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:41 am
by smackaholic
Left Seater wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.
Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.
Symbolically sure. In practice not so much when you consider security and other such issues. But I am all for it.
The Essential Air Service is another one that should go tomorrow in all places but for maybe Alaska. Then reduce every department's budget by 15% tomorrow.
It's just a drop in the bucket, but many of them could and should fly commercial. Same goes for flag rank officers. Those fukkers have a fleet of small jets they fly around in, or at least used to. I know this for a fact as I once had my own personal lear jet ride from homestead to Langley. It was a jet that had flown down a few chairforce generals that was returning empty, so I hitched a ride.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:52 am
by smackaholic
I would allow churches/legit charities to continue their tax free status, but I would do away with ALL deductions. No charity deductions, no mortgage deductions, no magic electric shade tree deductions. We should have progressive rates. I would start it at a token rate, maybe .25% for poor folks, maybe 20% for someone making a million/year. But, unlike the current brackets that max out at a fairly low income (relatively speaking), I would ratchet it up gradually to maybe 35% for the crazy rich, say 30mil/year. Let those liberal rich cocksuckers in hollywood that can make 50 mil/yr put their money where their mouth is.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:13 am
by Left Seater
Moving Sale wrote:At what %?
And what % of $ made last year was by the top 1%?
Again who cares? Wealth was already taxed when it was earned. But just for shits and grins an Article in the Atlantic has two different studies that estimate the top 1% earn between 18 and 23% of the income in a given year. Far below the percentage of the overall income taxes they are responsible for. The same studies estimate the 1% hold between 33% and 42% of the country's wealth. Again not surprising given they earn the most.
Clearly the 1% is paying more than their fair share given these numbers.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:36 am
by Moving Sale
So they pay 10-20% more in taxes than they earn. Given all the extra stuff they get from the gov and the extra stuff they need to have protected it sounds about right.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:39 am
by Moving Sale
The highest tax bracket last yr was 39%. So not sure how you paid 43%.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:57 am
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:The highest tax bracket last yr was 39%. So not sure how you paid 43%.
State income, property, sales, etc, etc.
There are plenty of people out there paying half their income in various taxes.
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:00 am
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:....and the extra stuff they need to have protected it sounds about right.
So, the government running a mafia style protection racket is just fine then?
Re: When you pander to criminals
Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:32 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your industry.