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WASHINGTON (AP) — Facing assured defeat, Republican leaders decided Tuesday not to even hold a vote on the GOP's latest attempt to repeal the Obama health care law, surrendering on their last-gasp effort to deliver on the party's banner campaign promise.

Leaving a lunch of Republican senators who'd gathered to discuss their next steps on the issue, Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and other leaders decided that "the votes are not there, not to have the vote." Another lawmaker leaving the gathering, Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., shook his head and said, "No," when asked if a roll call would occur.

The decision marked the latest defeat on the issue for President Donald Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. In July, the Republican-controlled Senate rejected three similar GOP measures, a failure that infuriated conservatives and prompted Trump to spend much of his summer tweeting criticism at McConnell for falling short.

One of the measure's sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the GOP fight to erase President Barack Obama's 2010 health care overhaul would continue.

"We're going to get there," he said. "We're going to fulfill our promise."

Rejection became all but inevitable on Monday after Maine GOP Sen. Susan Collins announced she opposed the legislation. She joined Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Texas' Ted Cruz who'd already said they opposed the measure. Cruz aides said he was seeking changes that would let him vote yes.

Because of their narrow majority and unified Democratic opposition, Republicans can lose just two GOP votes and still push the legislation through the Senate. A vote or a decision by McConnell, R-Ky., to forego a roll call was needed this week because procedural protections against a bill-killing filibuster by Democrats expire Sunday.

In choosing whether to hold the roll call, McConnell had to pick between some Republicans arguing that lawmakers can't be seen as abandoning a pledge that Trump and countless GOP have run on, and others challenging the value of shining a fresh spotlight on their inability to pass the bill.

The abandoned bill would transform much of "Obamacare's" spending into grants that states could spend on health programs with few constraints.

schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.

Moving Sale wrote:

schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.

Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.

schmuck wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.

Joe in PB wrote:People need health insurance and any bill that excludes millions of people isn't the answer. Which is why the Republicans have never been close to passing a health care bill.

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88 wrote:http://www.allaboutvision.com/condition ... y-cost.htm

ML@Coyote wrote:Affordable health care has little to do with Democrats or Republicans.

Left Seater wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.

Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.

We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?

ML@Coyote wrote:

88 wrote:http://www.allaboutvision.com/condition ... y-cost.htm

It also doesn't help that I live in Orange County:

https://patch.com/california/fountainva ... f50ccee469

Papa Willie wrote:

Mikey wrote:

ML@Coyote wrote:

88 wrote:http://www.allaboutvision.com/condition ... y-cost.htm

It also doesn't help that I live in Orange County:

https://patch.com/california/fountainva ... f50ccee469

How much did you actually pay?

Softball Bat wrote:
Right now, the R's are a total joke.
There is no spinning that.

Papa Willie wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:ML,
Attys are colossal assholes. They fuck up more shit than any other single entity in the USA. Their grubby hands are in EVERY pie and they have indeed helped fuck up HC. This is not, however, due to malpractice suits. Med Mal is 2.4% of health care and the good it does providing a voice to patients is not measurable. Please try a different avenue if you feel the need to throw attys under a bus.

Had a friend that was an OBGyn. He retired 10 years ago. He was paying around $100k per year in malpractice insurance. Why do you think his rates were so high?

Derron wrote:In your little world. Conservatives are laughing at the liberals as they spin and melt in to little puddles of bleeding pussy juice. Trump trolls the liberals, they shit all over themselves, hammer out nonsensical takes all over the internet, complain how unfair it is and shout for impeachment, call all conservatives racists, while the liberal media pours gas on every story they can, further whipping the liberals into their melting frenzy.

In the meantime the economy just keeps kicking ass with business confidence higher than ever.

Moving Sale wrote:

Left Seater wrote:

Moving Sale wrote: Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.

We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?

But yet you have a problem with paying for health care the same way. Why would you think that? Are you a sadist?

Derron wrote: In your little world. Conservatives are laughing at the liberals as they spin and melt in to little puddles of bleeding pussy juice. Trump trolls the liberals, they shit all over themselves, hammer out nonsensical takes all over the internet, complain how unfair it is and shout for impeachment, call all conservatives racists, while the liberal media pours gas on every story they can, further whipping the liberals into their melting frenzy.

In the meantime the economy just keeps kicking ass with business confidence higher than ever.

Left Seater wrote: Single payer is just a way to shift the burden onto others. Why stop at health care? Why not have taxes pay for housing and vacations and tickets to shows and sporting events?

Left Seater wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

Left Seater wrote:We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?

But yet you have a problem with paying for health care the same way. Why would you think that? Are you a sadist?

Single payer is just a way to shift the burden onto others. Why stop at health care? Why not have taxes pay for housing and vacations and tickets to shows and sporting events?

Screw_Michigan wrote:No wonder this country is so fucked.

Softball Bat wrote: Right now, the R's are a total joke.
There is no spinning that.

Moving Sale wrote:ML
America: love it or leave it? Is that your false dicot of the day?

ML@Coyote wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:ML
America: love it or leave it? Is that your false dicot of the day?

I love my wife and kids. Are there things I would like so see them change? Sure there are. But I don't say they're "fucked."

schmick wrote:Let owebamacare fail, all the Republicans have to do is get out of the way, allow the mandates to be over turned in the courts and government healthcare will crush under its own bureaucratic weight.

Diego in Seattle wrote:

schmick wrote:Let owebamacare fail, all the Republicans have to do is get out of the way, allow the mandates to be over turned in the courts and government healthcare will crush under its own bureaucratic weight.

If that's all they need to do, why are they sabotoging ACA?

schmick wrote:They're not.

schmick wrote:Now they need to get rid of the mandates

mvscal wrote:Indeed. They spent 7 years stoutly fighting against Ofailurecare and promising a repeal...until they were actually given the opportunity to do so by T$. Nobody has done more to pull back the curtain on the uniparty puppet show than Trump.

mvscal wrote: Indeed. They spent 7 years stoutly fighting against Ofailurecare and promising a repeal...until they were actually given the opportunity to do so by T$. Nobody has done more to pull back the curtain on the uniparty puppet show than Trump.