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BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:47 am
by Screw_Michigan
If you're keeping score at home, the final score for convictions at trials is

Defendants 213
Federal government 0

Though 21 defendants did plead guilty before trial. Why, I don't know.

MPD in DC is notorious for illegal arrests. They just got done paying off a settlement from 2002 in a protest at Pershing Park. Of course US Attys overcharged and it blew up in their faces. Such a waste of resources.

Fuck fascists!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pu ... 9dc78da15b
Federal prosecutors on Friday dismissed rioting charges against all remaining defendants arrested after destructive Inauguration Day protests in the nation’s capital, bringing to a close a controversial case that led to allegations of government overreach.

Prosecutors began filing paperwork Friday afternoon to formally drop the cases against 39 people who had been awaiting trial.

The vandalism of downtown businesses on the day President Trump was sworn in stretched more than 16 blocks as part of a disturbance called DisruptJ20. Members of a large group of protesters set small fires and used bricks and crowbars to smash storefronts.

In all, 234 people were arrested and charged with rioting. Of them, 21 defendants pleaded guilty before trial. But prosecutors had been unable to secure convictions at trial against others in the group.

Defense attorneys have long contended that prosecutors went too far in pursuing cases against more than 200 people. They argued that their clients were not rioting, but were swept up in the arrests while peacefully protesting.

Lacy MacAuley, one of the organizers of the DisruptJ20 Inauguration Day protests, said she celebrated the decision to end the prosecutions. She said the defendants have “suffered” more than a year of angst associated with the arrests, forcing many of them to put their lives on hold as they waited for outcomes in the criminal cases.

“How do you plan for your job and family and personal life when you are facing decades in prison?” MacAuley said.

[Government says it is dropping most remaining Inauguration Day rioting cases]

After the first six defendants to go to trial were acquitted late last year, prosecutors dropped charges against more than 150 others, saying they were unable to prove those people planned or participated in protests with the aim of causing damage. Charges against several additional defendants were dropped after D.C. Superior Court Judge Robert E. Morin found that the U.S. Attorney’s Office failed to turn over some video evidence to the defense.

At a second trial involving another handful of defendants, jurors either acquitted them or were unable to reach a unanimous verdict.

Jurors in the two cases that went to trial said afterward that the government couldn’t prove which of the people in the chaotic crowd were the vandals. Over time, prosecutors dismissed more of the cases, and others had been set for trial.

Jessie K. Liu, U.S. attorney for the District, declined to comment on the decision. In a statement from her office, prosecutors noted that 21 of the people arrested have admitted guilt but said “in light of the results in the cases brought to trial” they had made the decision to halt the cases.

“The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia believes that the evidence shows that a riot occurred on January 20, 2017, during which more than $100,000 in damage was caused to numerous public and private properties,” the statement read. “The destruction that occurred during these criminal acts was in sharp contrast to the peaceful demonstrations and gatherings that took place over the Inauguration weekend in the District of Columbia, and created a danger for all who were nearby.”

[New round of Inauguration Day rioting case dismissals]

Prosecutors had contended that the rioters blended in with protesters by using “black-bloc” tactics, wearing dark clothes and hiding their faces with masks and goggles so it would be harder for authorities to identify them while they participated in violence.

“They overreached in terms of their legal theory,” said Mark Goldstone, a D.C. defense attorney who represented two defendants, both of whose cases were dismissed. “That a person is responsible criminally for any destruction and violence incurred by someone in the same vicinity because of the clothes they wore — and because of that, a person is facing 70 years in jail because of someone else’s actions — that is absolutely preposterous.”

“It was a waste of time and a waste of taxpayers’ resources,” Goldstone said. “They spent way more in prosecution than the financial damages that were caused.”

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:07 am
by Sirfindafold
i'm gonna spread this thread across my lawn and watch it grow green.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:13 am
by Left Seater
All of those businesses that had their storefronts smashed and business disrupted, not to mention the coin they spent and lost out on prolly aren’t happy.

Completely unsurprising you would cheer these criminals who actually did this damage walking.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:18 am
by Derron
Left Seater wrote:All of those businesses that had their storefronts smashed and business disrupted, not to mention the coin they spent and lost out on prolly aren’t happy.

Completely unsurprising you would cheer these criminals who actually did this damage walking.
But you can bet he is too much of a chicken shit little bitch to get out there and throw rocks and burn shit with them. Might get his ass kicked by the cops. Some of their filthy ilk did over a million dollars in damage at one car dealer alone in Portland in 2016.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:27 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:All of those businesses that had their storefronts smashed and business disrupted, not to mention the coin they spent and lost out on prolly aren’t happy.

Completely unsurprising you would cheer these criminals who actually did this damage walking.
The point is the feds overcharged a bunch of peaceful protesters and journalists. 200 or so. I know you really don't give a shit about the first amendment but the feds were way out of line. This is justice. All those US attys should be fired for this garbage. They spent 10x on bullshit prosecutions than damage downtown.

23 or so people plead guilty before trial. They were likely the ones doing the physical damage.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:28 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote: But you can bet he is too much of a chicken shit little bitch to get out there and throw rocks and burn shit with them. Might get his ass kicked by the cops. Some of their filthy ilk did over a million dollars in damage at one car dealer alone in Portland in 2016.
You're correct, I'm too smart to go down there and mix it up with them. Look what the prosecutors did to the peaceful protesters. No thanks.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:58 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote:
The point is the feds overcharged a bunch of peaceful protesters and journalists. 200 or so. I know you really don't give a shit about the first amendment but the feds were way out of line. This is justice.
You can’t prove that those protesters were peaceful. In reading your link, juries couldn’t be sure either so they all walked. That isn’t justice, it is hiding behind the mob. And if these protests were so peaceful, why did the protesters all wear the same color and hide their faces? This was premeditated. And please link me up to the part of the First Amendment that says it is ok to trash businesses.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:19 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote:

You can’t prove that those protesters were peaceful.
Seems to me that the burden of proof is supposed to be on the prosecution.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:52 pm
by smackaholic
Mikey wrote:
Left Seater wrote:

You can’t prove that those protesters were peaceful.
Seems to me that the burden of proof is supposed to be on the prosecution.
No shit, Sherlock.

They only wave that silly technicality in socialist paradises like you and screwey want to see in place.

I would just say that you might be careful what you ask for. If you ever do get your wish, and we do go full on socialist, this sort of deviant behavior will be squashed as brutally as is necessary. It really is the one benefit I see in going socialist.

The way this sort of shit should be handled is forcefully by the cops. You throw a brick through a storefront window, the cops should issue you a good fukking beating, right on the spot. I'm not saying kill anyone. There are ways to do it so no one ends up in the morgue, but they do walk with a painful limp for a while and will think twice before doing it again. That video of the Russian cops tuning that sahkah fan up for jumping on a paddy wagon is about what we need. If you look at that video, I am fairly sure all the blows were aimed at the legs. This won't kill you , but it will hurt like a motherfukker.

Is it brutal?

Yeah, a little. But savages deserve no better.

As for fukkers that purposely impede traffic, run them the fukk over. THey do it for one reason. They know you will stop.

As for alleged innocent bystanders, fukk them. If 100% of a group gathers, peacefully and with permits, I'm OK. But an unruly mob, with a handful of vandals? Fukk'em. Teargas and rubber bullets for the lot, once any of them become violent. The mob provides cover for the actual violent ones. Guilt by association.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:15 pm
by Mikey
Look at you, big bad Suckaholic.

Nobody talks tougher than you. I'll bet you're a huge fucking pussy in "real" life. If you actually saw cops doing what you advocate you'd probably lose your lunch on the spot.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:51 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:
You can’t prove that those protesters were peaceful. In reading your link, juries couldn’t be sure either so they all walked. That isn’t justice, it is hiding behind the mob
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You got to be kidding. That's called the government not proving its case. Just another Trumpster authoritarian who yearns for an authoritarian government.

Colour me unsurprised.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:44 pm
by smackaholic
Mikey wrote:Look at you, big bad Suckaholic.

Nobody talks tougher than you. I'll bet you're a huge fucking pussy in "real" life. If you actually saw cops doing what you advocate you'd probably lose your lunch on the spot.
If I saw cops tuning up some POS that desperately needed it, I would cheer them on. And it wouldn't matter if the scumbag was an Antifa hipster scumbag or a neonazi.

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:48 pm
by Bucmonkey
:meds:

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:34 pm
by Joe in PB
Any group or organization that has zero tolerance for free speech and uses violence to intimidate like the KKK, is antidemocratic.

Screwy is a Bolshevik.

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Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:50 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Left Seater wrote:
You can’t prove that those protesters were peaceful.

Bruh, do you even law?

Re: BODE Antifa

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:29 pm
by Left Seater
Look I get how the courts work. Yes, the jury(s) did the only thing they could. Period. Full Stop.

That wasn’t Screwy’s point though. He is giving Antifa props. They clearly planned to do illegal things prior to arriving that morning or they wouldn’t have all worn the same color and covered their faces. Screwy is celebrating businesses being destroyed because snowflakes didn’t like the outcome of an election.

Sad, but totally predictable coming from him.