This place is deader than shit today.

[Jay in Phoenix]

You're an asshole!!!


I don't really mean that, but...you asked and shit.

[ML@Coyote]

Screwy jerks off to pics of Condoleezza Rice

[Softball Bat]

Maybe I'll start a fl@t earth thread.
Some interesting developments.




:)



:wink:

[ML@Coyote]

Maybe I'll start a fl@t earth thread.
Some interesting developments.

Since the world obviously isn't flat, I have some more interesting questions:

Who does God answer to?

If God is all powerful and perfect, why are his creations so flawed?

Why is God so quiet these days?

Do you speak to God?

[Softball Bat]

ML, time permitting, I will answer your questions later.

But since you claim the eath obviously isn't flat, I assume you believe in the globe -- 25,000 miles in circumference?

Go ahead and post your proof for it.


This will be fun.

[ML@Coyote]

But since you claim the eath obviously isn't flat, I assume you believe in the globe -- 25,000 miles in circumference?

Go ahead and post your proof for it.

Since it is well-known that the earth is round, post your evidence that it isn't. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

[Softball Bat]

It is wel-known?

lol

Yet you posted NO proof of it.


I don't claim to know for sure what the shape is.

I have zero burden.

[ML@Coyote]

Next time you fly to or from Korea, tell the pilot to maintain a straight line and see where you end up.

[Softball Bat]

Since the world obviously isn't flat, I have some more interesting questions:

Who does God answer to?

If God is all powerful and perfect, why are his creations so flawed?

Why is God so quiet these days?

Do you speak to God?

1. God need not answer to anyone.

2. Read Genesis chapters 1-3. It is all there. Actually God's children are not flawed. We are holy and blamelss before Him. Colossians 1:22.

3.God speaks to His children. But He does not operate in the same way as He did in Old Testament times. Everything has been finished in Jesus Christ, and the Scriptures are compete. Everything is there.

[ML@Coyote]

1. God need not answer to anyone.

Maybe that's a problem. Someone need to kick him in the ass for doing such a lousy job.

2. Read Genesis chapters 1-3. It is all there. Actually God's children are not flawed. We are holy and blamelss before Him. Colossians 1:22.

So we are all going to heaven?

3.God speaks to His children. But He does not operate in the same way as He did in Old Testament times. Everything has been finished in Jesus Christ, and the Scriptures are compete. Everything is there.

We've learned an awful lot since the Bible was written. It's hardly "all there." And much of what's in the Bible is nonsense.

[Smackie Chan]

But since you claim the eath obviously isn't flat, I assume you believe in the globe -- 25,000 miles in circumference?

Go ahead and post your proof for it.

Since it is well-known that the earth is round, post your evidence that it isn't. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

Oh no...

[Softball Bat]

So we are all going to heaven?

No
Not all of humanity are children of God.
John 1:12 -- and many others.


"Everything is there" was in response to your question, "Why is God so quiet these days?"
Everything God wants to say is in Jesus Christ and the Scriptures.

Do you speak to God?

Yes, of course.

[ML@Coyote]

Everything God wants to say is in Jesus Christ and the Scriptures.

Do you speak to God?

Yes, of course.

Why don't you ask him (politely of course) to hold a press conference and explain how Noah collected and saved 6.5 million land living species on Earth. That seems like something he might want to explain.

Among other things.

[Softball Bat]

6.5 million is what you say Noah was to take in the ark.
That isn't what is in the Bible.

Noah was to take two of every sort of animal into the ark.
Genesis 6:19.

[Left Seater]

Two words Poptart gets to decide the meaning of there are sort and animal.

Somehow Noah and his family traveled the globe and brought back 2 Barton Creek Salamanders? The ones that live only underground? Sorry, color me skeptical.

[ML@Coyote]

6.5 million is what you say Noah was to take in the ark.
That isn't what is in the Bible.

Noah was to take two of every sort of animal into the ark.
Genesis 6:19.

6.5 million, as in 6.5 million different species. As in 6.5 million sorts.

I guess I didn't make myself clear.

[Softball Bat]

Two words Poptart gets to decide the meaning of there are sort and animal.

One of the most blatant bed-crappings ever.

Dude, you were already educated that the OT was written in Hebrew, not English.
lol

So look up "all that moveth upon the earth" in Genesis 9:2 and see what that means in the Hebrew in which it was written.

Clue: It most definitely IS NOT, nor every COULD BE, a human.

LOL

Ramas.

Look it up, clown show.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I'm starting my weekend early by knocking back some firmaments and possibly doing a little "fur trapping" later...

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

[Softball Bat]

ML, neither you or I know the number of sorts of animals that were alive at the time of Noah.

[ML@Coyote]

ML, neither you or I know the number of sorts of animals that were alive at the time of Noah.

Are you saying the diversity of species has increased since Noah?

As in by evolution?

[Softball Bat]

No, I cannot say for sure.
I am saying that I assume the Bible to be accurate -- and that Noah took two of every sort of animal onto the ark.
Genesis 6:19.

If you then look at immediate context you see that God started giving Noah examples of what He intended -- birds, cattle, creeping things...
Genesis 6:20.

Sorts of animals.


The world (and life on earth) was much different before the flood than it is now, imo.

[ML@Coyote]

No, I cannot say for sure.
I am saying that I assume the Bible to be accurate -- and that Noah took two of every sort of animal onto the ark.
Genesis 6:19.

If you then look at immediate context you see that God started giving Noah examples of what He intended -- birds, cattle, creeping things...
Genesis 6:20.

Sorts of animals.


The world (and life on earth) was much different before the flood than it is now, imo.

You haven't explained anything. You just say you believe Noah's story because it's in the Bible, never mind the facts. Didn't God give us brains so that we could use them to figure things out? You strike me as someone who likes to think. So what's stopping you now?

[Softball Bat]

What am I supposed to explain to you?

You can do your own study if you want to.


I find no reason at all to doubt that Noah and the worldwide flood really existed.

[Jay in Phoenix]

This could explain a few things about "God" and "Christ".

[ML@Coyote]

Surely, God will punish you for that.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Surely, God will punish you for that.

Curiously, I asked God about that and this was the image that was sent to me...



Wonder what that means?

[ML@Coyote]

I think it means Kavanaugh has his work cut out for him.

[Softball Bat]

Next time you fly to or from Korea, tell the pilot to maintain a straight line and see where you end up.

Imagine we take a huge beach ball -- 2500 miles in diameter, and lay it down on America. It covers the whole country.
We put a remote control plane on top of the ball, about perpendicular from Omaha. Then we are going to fly our plane out to Los Angeles.

When our plane gets to LA, which direction will the nose of the plane be facing? Pretty much straight down, right?

So try it with a bigger ball -- say, 7,900 miles in diameter. Put your plane on top of the ball and head west with it. When you get 1/4 of the way around the ball, which direction will the nose of the plane be facing?

Pretty much straight down, right?
Right!

Light bulb coming on?

The globe is an absolute joke. Only a dummy will believe something so ridiculous once they are actually able to look at common sense.

[ML@Coyote]

Light bulb coming on?

Yes, and it says, "You are being trolled."

[Left Seater]

Light bulb coming on?

Yes, and it says, "You are being trolled."

Swhat I have been saying for some time.


Poptart, if the earth isn’t a globe link us up to what shape it is that fits these simple things: scheduled commercial non stop flights, sun rises and sunsets, seasons, and seeing different stars in different countries.

Otherwise you are just trolling. Granted one of the best troll jobs ever, but trolling.

[Softball Bat]

You boys didn't answer. Perhaps it was the size of my... balls that threw you off.

Take a 10 mile in diameter beach ball and lay it down. Put your toy jet on top and fly it west. When you get 1/4 of the way around the ball the nose of the jet faces down. Correct?

Yes.

It will be the same with a 20 mile in diameter ball.

Or 50.

Or 100.

Etc.


It will be the same with a ball that is 7900 miles in diameter.

Of course.


Put your thinking caps on.

[ML@Coyote]

I will play your game as soon as you explain how Noah was able to collect 6.5 million different sorts of creatures from all over the world (13 million creatures total) and put them on a boat and keep them alive for the duration of the flood.

[Softball Bat]

1. 6.5 million is your proposition. The Bible gives no number -- just that Noah took 2 of each sort (kind) of animal.

2. I don't pass Noah off as fact, as the utterly ridiculou globe is passed off as fact. I believe Noah was real. You do not have to.

3. You know that the nose of the plane faces down when going 1/4 of the way around a hypothetical 20 mile in diameter beach ball. Or 100 mile, etc.

At what size does *magic* take place so that a plane's nose does not face down when going 1/4 of the way around a ball?




#think

[ML@Coyote]

I don't pass Noah off as fact

Ah, now we're getting somewhere. You admit the Noah fable is fiction. That's what I was looking for.

So, okay I'll play. I've got nothing to do today, and this will be my last day on this board before I get back to work.

Let's see if I have this right: I have a beach ball, and I fly a toy plane from the top of the ball a quarter way and wind up with the plane over the side of the globe and with it's nose facing down.

What's next?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Apparently God, or God's children are too stupid to interpret allegory and metaphor.
So when you read "flying cow", it really means a cow that flies...

[ML@Coyote]

I will argue that in the literal sense the programmed computer understands what the car and the adding machine understand, namely, exactly nothing.

- John Searle

[Left Seater]

Take a 10 mile in diameter beach ball and lay it down. Put your toy jet on top and fly it west. When you get 1/4 of the way around the ball the nose of the jet faces down. Correct?

Wrong for the person standing on the beach ball 1/4 of the way around the circumference from where the plane started. To that person the plane is in level flight. Also wrong for anyone in the plane. Since gravity pulls to the center of a sphere, anyone on the plane would not consider the plane to be pointing nose down.

In fact the only vantage point where one would say the nose of the plane is pointing “down” would be an observer who is stationary thousands of miles away.

[ML@Coyote]

SB was probably dumbfounded as a child at how everyone was suddenly able to walk on the ceilings when he stood on his head.

[Softball Bat]

Lefty, if we put you in the plane on top of the 20 mile in diameter beach ball and then flew you 1/4 of the way around the ball your eyeballs would be facing -----> down.

Undoubtedly.

And likewise if the ball was 100 miles in diameter.
Or 1,000 miles in diameter.

Undoubtedly.

At what ball size would that *magically* not happen?

It will always happen.

The globe is preposterous fiction.
It could never be true, and dummies defend it.