Thermite used in CA Wildfires?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:00 pm

I believe you’ll find a very good explanation here...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... o=0.781250

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:09 pm

It’s true. A sad, but largely unknown aspect of the Global War on Terror is the fact that it was actually the result of a typographical error. Originally GWoT was understood to be an eco-terrorist plot against trees, but some faceless and nameless bureaucrat deep in the bowels of the Pentagon mistakenly changed Trees to “Terror.” Ever since that moment we’ve been purposefully and uselessly tracking down Arab men who only want to worship Allah via the religion of peace. Lots of blood and treasure have been spent since then on this mistake.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:16 pm

Auto-correct will be the end of civilization. You can bank on it.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:32 pm

There are many YouTube videos on the aftermath of the California wild fires with many anomalies. Aluminum melted, houses that look to be burned from the inside out, with adjoining trees and other shrubs seemingly untouched. That doesn't appear to be damage caused by wild fires.

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Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:56 pm

How did SB get 88's password?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:44 pm

Joe in PB wrote:There are many YouTube videos on the aftermath of the California wild fires with many anomalies. Aluminum melted, houses that look to be burned from the inside out, with adjoining trees and other shrubs seemingly untouched. That doesn't appear to be damage caused by wild fires.

Are you the only one left that doesn't by now know about the Directed Energy Weapons testing?

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:09 pm

Are you the only one left that doesn't by now know about the Directed Energy Weapons testing?

Sincerely,

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:07 pm

Who said those beams are weakened?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:32 am

88 wrote:...Bush hired a secret team of demolition experts to sneak into the home to plant thermite when the people living in the home weren't paying attention.

Wait...

...is this going to turn into one of those "The Jews Did 9/11" things?

:x

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:33 am

...because I have an alibi...uhhh....I swear...

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:21 am

88 wrote:
Kierland wrote:Who said those beams are weakened?
Exactly. They could have been originally installed in that saggy-ass condition for art deco reasons. But I think it is more likely that Bush hired a secret team of demolition experts to sneak into the home to plant thermite when the people living in the home weren't paying attention.

Wtf are you talking about? They are bent horizontally to the I beam not vertically. And when does that equal weakened?
It’s like arguing with a 5 year old.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:23 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:How did SB get 88's password?

LetsTurd must have hacked them both.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:47 pm

Kierland wrote:
88 wrote:
Kierland wrote:Who said those beams are weakened?
Exactly. They could have been originally installed in that saggy-ass condition for art deco reasons. But I think it is more likely that Bush hired a secret team of demolition experts to sneak into the home to plant thermite when the people living in the home weren't paying attention.
Wtf are you talking about? They are bent horizontally to the I beam not vertically. And when does that equal weakened?
It’s like arguing with a 5 year old.

Do your eyes not work? The upper most beams on the left most side of the photo are clearly deflected in the vertical plane.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:56 pm

No they aren’t. That is not how an I beam works.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:59 pm

Kierland wrote:No they aren’t. That is not how an I beam works.

You are now denying photo evidence? The beam on the upper left where the front joint is hidden behind the tree is clearly deflected in the vertical plane.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:09 pm

I’m denying that the pic says what you say it says. If it’s so clear show me.

And there are no joists. They were made of (probably) wood and burned in the fire which is why the beam twisted, which is what beams do when constructed w/o metal joists.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:31 pm

schmick wrote:Liberals are setting these fires and allowing them to burn because they want to force the conservatives who live in the more rural areas to move to the city centers where their votes will be canceled out by illegal immigrants votes.

That makes a lot of sense, seeing as how Democrats outnumber Republicans in Butte County. I guess they're burning themselves out as well.

You should probably get in touch Joe from Pubic Beach and discuss Directed Energy Weapons.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:37 pm

Kierland wrote:
And there are no joists.

Awesome.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:42 pm

Thanks

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:55 pm

There's no blue food, either.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:43 am

Kierland wrote:I’m denying that the pic says what you say it says. If it’s so clear show me.

And there are no joists. They were made of (probably) wood and burned in the fire which is why the beam twisted, which is what beams do when constructed w/o metal joists.

No one has mentioned joists. You brought that up. I said joint. Of course the wood joists burned. That plus the load on the beams caused them to deflect in both the x and y axis.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:46 am

Left Seater wrote:
No one has mentioned joists.

Hence my comment. And he can't even blame this round of idiocy on a typo.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 am

Kierland wrote:I’m denying that the pic says what you say it says. If it’s so clear show me.

And there are no joists. They were made of (probably) wood and burned in the fire which is why the beam twisted, which is what beams do when constructed w/o metal joists.

Wood joists in a structural steel building ?? Really ?? News flash you fucking idiot...wood is not used in "joists" of a steel framed building.

Structural steel building, clad in metal. Likely a lot of content load. Fairly intense fire ( probably fueled by spray on insulation until the sheeting melted. The architecture of the building says it was high end design. The burned out hulk of a formerly very expensive Ford Bronco, says there was a lot of things in there to burn. Your postulation about the beams twisting after the wood burned away, is like the rest of your statements, complete horseshit.

Take a look at the complete absence of structural wood combined with the metal. Surf around the site to get a better understanding of structural steel construction.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:10 am

Uh... Derron... bro... that was the funny here. Left said "joints," Midget then rants about "joists."

I've worked on a bunch of small structural steel buildings, like the one pictured (some smaller, some bigger). And they all had one thing in common -- no structural wood. The occasional door or cabinet.

But leave it to Queerland to think a slab-on-grade structure has joists. One of the more entertaining parts of this board is when the Tossing Victim tries to sound smart.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:01 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
88 wrote:...Bush hired a secret team of demolition experts to sneak into the home to plant thermite when the people living in the home weren't paying attention.
Wait...

...is this going to turn into one of those "The Jews Did 9/11" things?

:x

More like the jews caused el nino, or la nina, or whatever the fukk it is. Hell, let's just go with the jews caused climate change.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:50 pm

Kierland wrote:No they aren’t. That is not how an I beam works.

Tell us how an I beam works then, sparky.

Are you implying that that steel I beam is like a wood I joist and that it will get all wobly in the horizontal access, if it doesn't have something to hold it straight?

I'm no structural engineer, but I have seen similar I beams. They are not wobbly in any axis.

That beam has deformed in at least one axis, as a result of getting a little warm. It did not melt. It just bent.

Wanna guess what it would have done if it had 40 stories sitting on top of it?

It would have collapsed.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:39 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Kierland wrote:No they aren’t. That is not how an I beam works.
Tell us how an I beam works then, sparky.

An I beam's usage is dependent on it's length. A long I beam makes a sound that reads like "eye" and is good for lengthy spans. A short I beam is denoted by the "U" shape-- like the beams in the picture --and are generally found in burnt out hulks of steel buildings. They make a sound like the "i" in idiot, which, apropo of Kierland's post is quite descriptive of the man himself.

*Is English linguistic smack acceptable in here?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Rooster wrote:A short I beam is denoted by the "U" shape-- like the beams in the picture --and are generally found in burnt out hulks of steel buildings. They make a sound like the "i" in idiot, which, apropo of Kierland's post is quite descriptive of the man himself.

There are two i's in idiot. Idiot.

atmdad · Post by **atmdad** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:17 am

FYI,

They are referred to as W sections, as in wide flange. There are a couple of other classes based on nuances of the shape transition from the web to the flange.

Carry on with your discussion of eye-beams.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:15 pm

iBeam

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:48 am

That looks suspiciously like a directed energy weapon masquerading as a cell phone. :o

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:25 pm

Derron:
"Take a look at the complete absence of structural wood combined with the metal. Surf around the site to get a better understanding of structural steel construction."

You are an idiot.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:28 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
I've worked on a bunch of small structural steel buildings, like the one pictured (some smaller, some bigger). And they all had one thing in common -- no structural wood. The occasional door or cabinet.

But leave it to Queerland to think a slab-on-grade structure has joists. One of the more entertaining parts of this board is when the Tossing Victim tries to sound smart.

Yeah the "metal" that made up the floor just disappeared. Idiot.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:23 pm

Kierland wrote:Derron:
"Take a look at the complete absence of structural wood combined with the metal. Surf around the site to get a better understanding of structural steel construction."

You are an idiot.

Read the sentence - "structural wood" you fucking stupid cunt. The wood in your picture has jack shit to do with the structural part of the building. Interior floor is supported by the wood joists attached to the steel beams. The wood has nothing to do with structural support. Wood is often used for interior walls and floors. Adds to the fuel load when it burns to get those heats up there to help out on warping the structural steel along with the altered load inputs.

Anything else you want to kick your own ass with today ??

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:50 pm

I said there were no joists in 88's picture because they burned in the fire since they were made out of wood which is basically what you just said you stupid midget.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:53 pm

Kierland wrote:I said there were no joists in 88's picture because they burned in the fire since they were made out of wood which is basically what you just said you stupid midget.

Campaigning hard for the Board Bitch title again today. Screwed in the Ass made a couple of good runs, but you are a real contender right now. Just from the stupidity level alone, you may have it locked up at this point.

Tell us, how many bong hits have you had this morning, because your take makes no fucking sense at all.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:55 pm

So in other words, I was right, again, and you were wrong, again.

Great job tiny.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:38 pm

Kierland wrote: Yeah the "metal" that made up the floor just disappeared. Idiot.

You can see what the floor is made of in that top pic?

Idiot.

Notice how those beams aren't sitting on a curb, idiot? That's because it's classic slab-on-grade, idiot. Which is typically where I-beam posts are used in small buildings, idiot.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:40 pm

Kierland wrote:So in other words, I was right, again, and you were wrong, again.

Great job tiny.

Uhm, you are laughably wrong. There were no joists to burn, dumbass. It's a concrete floor.

Kierland · Post by **Kierland** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:43 pm

I was talking about the second story, idiot. Which any person who is not an idiot would have know you stupid idiot. Of course there are no joists on the first floor of building with a slab, as only an idiot would think that. Idiot.