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Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:10 am
by smackaholic
Guilty of murder?
How the fukk does this happen?
It is quite obvious what happened here. A tired distracted women made a terrible mistake.
Should she get some type of punishment?
Sure.
Should she ever be allowed to carry a gun again, much less serve as a cop?
Fukk no!
But how the fukk is this murder?
Some form of manslaughter? Yeah, I guess.
If the dude she shot was white, there's no fukking way a DA even brings up a murder charge.
This was another case of "innocent balck man gets shot by the police" and dammit, we need justice!!!!
I suspect that she'll get a good legal team and this will get knocked down to what it was, some level of manslaughter.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:41 am
by Screw_Michigan
A dumber than Suckaholic juiced up badge money blows away a man in his own home because she thought it was "her" home?
As mvscunt says--Stupid is supposed to hurt.
You are one pathetic loser.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:50 am
by smackaholic
She wasn't a juiced up badge monkey, you fukking moron.
She was a dumb bitch that made a really bad, but innocent mistake.
Murder is a planned homicide. No one in their right mind would think this bitch planned any part of this.
Testimony was given that people walking into the wrong apartment is a common occurrence in this complex. I suspect it is generally caused by people being cell phone zombies. This was likely the case here.
But of course, you don't give a fukk about actual justice. You're a just a cop hating POS and this plays to your pathetic systemic racism narrative that you rely on to get minorities out to the polls so you can have your free healfcare or whatever it is you want.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:07 pm
by Screw_Michigan
She IS a juiced up badge monkey, you fucking moron. She killed an innocent unarmed man in his own home. THAT by definition is a juiced up badge money.
"Testimony was given that people walking into the wrong apartment is a common occurrence in this complex. I suspect it is generally caused by people being cell phone zombies. This was likely the case here."
You are one stupid motherfucker. Again, the sun rises in the east...
No one said you had to like it. You just have to suck on it.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:30 pm
by smackaholic
"Juiced Up Badge Monkeys" are a thing.
There are asshole cops who abuse their badges. If this woman knowingly walked into this dude's apartment because he was playing his record player too loud and shot him, she'd be guilty of being a JUBM.
She didn't.
She MISTAKENLY walked into the wrong apartment.
Dude likely thought she was an intruder and decided to take her out. She thought he was attacking her.
Whether he was balck white or purple didn't matter. She saw someone a good bit larger than her coming towards her in what she took to be a threatening manner. She pulled her gun and shot him.
It was a tragic mistake.
She should never carry a weapon again.
But she shouldn't spend her life in jail either.
Care to wager on how this ends?
It'll go to re-trial. She will be found guilty of some form of manslaughter. She'll prolly walk out with time served.
I would like to see a judgement against her to the family of the victim. Let her get her ass to work as a bank teller or at starbucks so she can pay the poor mother of the man she killed. This won't happen with her sitting in prison.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:41 pm
by Kierland
Is there anything you won’t lie about? You have no idea how the defense of mistake of fact even works you fucking jackboot. STFU and get back in your lane, you know, the slow lane with all the other stupid fucks.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:48 pm
by smackaholic
Take your first year law school mumbo jumbo and jam it up your ass, sideways, facist.
The guy that makes a living out of getting scumbags out of serving time for crimes they actually commit, is OK with railroading this bitch, because she's a cop and also because it fits his imaginary systematic racism narrative.
You truely are a POS.
I'd like to hear takes from the real lawyers on the board.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:57 pm
by Kierland
Oh you mean like that 88shit who’s last “legal” analysis of my post was, you suck? That guy?
She shot a guy in his apt you moron. I had a guy who tried to get into “his” house and got shot by the homeowner because my guy had the wrong house. Which one of those two (white) people do you think the DA charged?
Now take your stupid brain and fuck the fuck off you authoritarian fuck.
And quit projecting your “facist” tendencies onto me you brownshirted fuck.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:46 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote:Oh you mean like that 88shit who’s last “legal” analysis of my post was, you suck? That guy?
She shot a guy in his apt you moron. I had a guy who tried to get into “his” house and got shot by the homeowner because my guy had the wrong house. Which one of those two (white) people do you think the DA charged?
Now take your stupid brain and fuck the fuck off you authoritarian fuck.
And quit projecting your “facist” tendencies onto me you brownshirted fuck.
Your guy mistakenly entered the wrong house?
How fukking hammered was he?
If he was hammered, it’s a factor.
If he’s just a garden variety moron, which is likely, based on his choice of legal representation, the DA should have maybe hit him with trespassing. The homeowner that shot his dumb ass should get a medal.
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Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:49 pm
by smackaholic
Btw, walking into the wrong apartment because you don’t count floors very well, seems more plausible than walking into the wrong house.
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Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:39 pm
by Kierland
He was stone cold sober and was coming off a double at the local hospital you fucking creep. Sound familiar? And were condos that all look a like. The DA hit him with a felony that would have been a strike under the 3strikes law. I got him PC 602 Misdemeanor trespassing. Now get your shine box and run along you fucking pathetic moron.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:50 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote:He was stone cold sober and was coming off a double at the local hospital you fucking creep. Sound familiar? And were condos that all look a like. The DA hit him with a felony that would have been a strike under the 3strikes law. I got him PC 602 Misdemeanor trespassing. Now get your shine box and run along you fucking pathetic moron.
Sounds like you did your job and the DA agreed with it. Or at least the jury did.
Your client goofed up. He paid a reasonable price for his goof up.
By your logic, your own client should have had the book thrown at him.
Why is it you don’t want similar justice for others?
No one is arguing she didn’t fukk up in a major way.
She did.
She lost her job and will have to live with what she did forever.
But she shouldn’t go down for murder. Manslaughter was the appropriate sentence.
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Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:54 pm
by smackaholic
One other thing, you disingenuous fukking idiot. You could have said your client walked into the wrong condo rather than house. But you’ve always been the suck at laying out the facts in any story, so I guess I’m not surprised.
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Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:16 pm
by Kierland
I will take responsibility for saying house, but they are cookie cutter houses with two doors and sold as condos. The point being they are easily mistaken.
He did fuck up which is why he plead to the 602. That’s the whole point. You fuck up you pay and as long as you fucked up in a legal sense then it’s the legal system that decides the punishment. In my guy’s case a 602, in her case a murder rap.
As a side note (and at the risk of burying the lead) the home owner was deer hunting when he saw some quail and switched to bird shot before he got home and put his shotgun by the bed or my guy would have a deer slug in him and not the few birds shot pellets he ended up with that made it thru the side door and if that happened I probably would not have had a client in the first place.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:59 pm
by The Whistle Is Screaming
Kierland, if she were your client how would you have handled this case?
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:09 pm
by FiatLux
Texas got this one right. I'd give her the death penalty if I believed in it.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:51 pm
by Kierland
The Whistle Is Screaming wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:59 pm
Kierland, if she were your client how would you have handled this case?
I don’t know how her attorneys handled the negotiations with the DA if there were any, but I would have pushed for manslaughter if I came in after the indictment for murder. I might have even told her to plea to the sheet when the sheet was only manslaughter if I was her attorney then and then have her throw herself on the mercy of the court.
As for as the trail, I didn’t see much of it but I would have done basically the same thing. “It was a horrible mistake and is a civil not criminal matter.”
Now I don’t believe that so I would not have even taken the case, that and my conflict of interest because I want to see her do hard time. But money changes everything. :?
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:11 pm
by Kierland
I think there was evidence the door wouldn’t lock or it was hard close or something like that.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:57 pm
by smackaholic
The door locking is irrelevant.
I don't lock my door when I'm home. Hell, I rarely lock it when I'm away, but I live in a pretty boring ass safe place and I really don't have anything of seriously high value there. Plus there is the fact that if someone really wants in. they'll get in.
I'm sure dude was thinking as he was taking a chest full of lead, fukk, I shoulda locked the door.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:07 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:51 pm
The Whistle Is Screaming wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:59 pm
Kierland, if she were your client how would you have handled this case?
I don’t know how her attorneys handled the negotiations with the DA if there were any, but I would have pushed for manslaughter if I came in after the indictment for murder. I might have even told her to plea to the sheet when the sheet was only manslaughter if I was her attorney then and then have her throw herself on the mercy of the court.
As for as the trail, I didn’t see much of it but I would have done basically the same thing. “It was a horrible mistake and is a civil not criminal matter.”
Now I don’t believe that so I would not have even taken the case, that and my conflict of interest because I want to see her do hard time. But money changes everything. :?
So basically, it sounds like if these are just two random people, you'd be for a reasonable charge of manslaughter. But, she's a cop, so fukk her.
You are right that the defense should have told her to plead to manslaughter. Maybe her attorney was a dumbfukk who thought he could beat even manslaughter.
If that is the case, he's an idiot and he ought to be in jail with her.
My guess is that next time around this gets settled at manslaughter.
Ya know what would have been a bigger miscarriage of justice?
If she walked and the balck folks burned down the town and the feds stepped in, Rodney King style.
The Rodney King trial where the state over reached, going for attempted murder and the jury didn't buy it. They should have went down for aggravated assault.
Then the nogs burned their hood down and the feds stepped in and appeased them by going after them on federal charges. This was blatant double jeopardy and it sent out a message to savages everywhere.
Don't like a court decision?
Burn shit and uncle sugar will give it another look.
A principled defense attorney would not have liked that decision very much, bu I susoect you were OK with it, since cops don't deserve rights.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:37 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:45 pm
by Screw_Michigan
smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:07 pm
A principled defense attorney would not have liked that decision very much, bu I susoect you were OK with it, since cops don't deserve rights.
Cops in the US have been summarily executing innocent victims with impunity for millennia. Sorry if I don't shed a tear for this bitch. I hope she dies in prison.
Amber Guyger
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:55 pm
by smackaholic
Screw_Michigan wrote:smackaholic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:07 pm
A principled defense attorney would not have liked that decision very much, bu I susoect you were OK with it, since cops don't deserve rights.
Cops in the US have been summarily executing innocent victims with impunity for millennia. Sorry if I don't shed a tear for this bitch. I hope she dies in prison.
You’re a fukking socialist. You NEED a jackboot thug police force. So STFU.
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Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:31 am
by Softball Bat
The record shows that he (like most all at .net) is a gutless cunt.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:47 am
by Softball Bat
Jsc, kcdave, Truman...
Exceptions.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:55 am
by Left Seater
Seems like the punishment was appropriate for her crime.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:31 am
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:55 am
Seems like the punishment was appropriate for her crime.
She'll be out after 5. Not acceptable.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:37 am
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:31 am
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:55 am
Seems like the punishment was appropriate for her crime.
She'll be out after 5. Not acceptable.
So you are against parole? Interesting.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:50 am
by Kierland
She is breathing a sigh of relief.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:15 am
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:37 am
So you are against parole? Interesting.
Her sentence was too light, duh. JUBM privilege.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:24 am
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:15 am
Her sentence was too light, duh. JUBM privilege.
The jury certainly didn’t think so. Nor did the victims brother.
But I get it. You want to appear all tough and woke to cover your own racism.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:47 am
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:24 am Nor did the victims brother.
Some people actually embrace the good parts of Christianity. Takes a solid human to do what he did and say what he said.
“Justice is something you get in the next life, in this life you are stuck with the law.”
Sin,
Me to 100’s and 100’s of clients.
As an aside, I have sat through many victim impact statements and many of them were next of kin to murder victims. We don’t get the likes of Brandt Jean very often so they stand out when we do. Gwen Araujo’s Mom Sylvia was one of those exceptions. Very powerful lady, lots of respect for her.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:06 pm
by smackaholic
Brandt Jean is a hero.
If his poor brother was similar, and all indications are that he was, this is especially tragic.
Assuming she does get out in 5, I think that's pretty fair. I would have perfered 5 years for manslaughter, but I guess thats not what's really important.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:08 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:24 am
The jury certainly didn’t think so. Nor did the victims brother.
The jury handed down the sentence? News to everyone except for you.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:11 pm
by Kierland
“Fair a place you take your pig in the summer to get it judged. It’s something that gets you in a bus. It is not something you get in a courtroom.”
Sin,
Also me, to probably a thousand clients.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:27 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:08 pm
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:24 am
The jury certainly didn’t think so. Nor did the victims brother.
The jury handed down the sentence? News to everyone except for you.
God god man, check yourself. How do you keep kicking your own ass so often? One might think you would check details before posting here given how many times you have been wrong.
The Dallas County jury reached a unanimous decision on the sentence just before 4 p.m. Central Standard Time, after deliberating for a little over an hour.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/jury-deciding ... d=66002182
I mean how do you keep a job? Oh wait, the media isn’t really worried about facts as you prove damn near daily.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:46 am
by Kierland
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:38 am
by Screw_Michigan
I'm waiting on Left Shitter and Suckaholic's excuses for why this is simply a coincidence.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:45 pm
by Left Seater
I agree it is suspicious so you will be waiting a long time.
Meanwhile we are still waiting for you to pull your head out of your ass, see posts above. But that will probably be a long wait as well.
Re: Amber Guyger
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:17 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:45 pm
I agree it is suspicious so you will be waiting a long time.
Meanwhile we are still waiting for you to pull your head out of your ass, see posts above. But that will probably be a long wait as well.
It was probably appropriate that the judge gave her a hug and a bible after sentencing her. Because men who get convicted of horribly violent crimes usually get goodbye hugs from judges too.