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Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:13 pm
by Left Seater
If any of you have stayed at a hotel in the last year or so you have probably been offered the choice to decline housekeeping for all of part of your stay. They say this is to help the environment by reducing water use and energy use. The property may also offer you addition points for each day you decline housekeeping as their way or saying thank you “for helping the environment.”
This is all fancy marketing speak and has little to do with the environment. It in fact is a way to reduce wages and expenses at the hotel. Each day you decline housekeeping is a day they can reduce housekeeper’s hours and supervisor’s hours. At a mid range property like say a Courtyard where housekeeping will visit your room once per day this choice saves 30 minutes of housekeeping time. It also saves about 10 minutes of supervision time when they sign off on the room. At a full service property where housekeeping does two visits a day and in some cases a third with turndown service this can save 1.5 hours of housekeeping time and 15 mins of supervision time.
This practice started in Seattle where a “living wage” was passed. So in the name of making the “environmental” choice you are cutting the hours a housekeeper gets paid.
Now hotels are taking this a step further. Hyatt announced today they will eliminate all individual toiletries by 2022. They join Marriott and IHG who are already moving to this standard. The hotels claim it is a move to help the environment and reduce plastic waste. What it actually is is a move to help their bottom line. Wall mounted soap/shampoo/conditioner dispensers are difficult to clean and are often not refilled adequately.
If this really were an environmental issue the hotels could use individual shampoo and conditioner bottles made from biodegradable packaging. But this isn’t about the environment, this is about saving money at your expense.
So do you decline housekeeping and will you miss the shampoo bottles you can take home?
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:50 pm
by Left Seater
Roach wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:20 pm
"Wall mounted soap/shampoo/conditioner dispensers are difficult to clean and are often not refilled adequately. "
Jesus H. Christ who would Ever touch one of those or especially use what might be in it. A long line up of depraved bastards capable of about anything have been in that room. Tell me you don't drink out of the glasses.
Of course I don’t. Far too many stories of the maid wiping the toilet then using the same rag to clean the glasses.
And I agree on those wall mounted soaps and shampoos. Thankfully I have status with Marriott. That by itself means nothing other than I spend a lot of nights in hotels for work. But where it does mean something is I ca still request the individual bottles. Now when I stay at a Hyatt property I will bring my own or stop at a CVS or Walgreens to purchase some of the little bottles.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:53 pm
by Kierland
Of course they don’t care about the environment, any more than you do.
It’s all about the Benjamins, just like in your life.
So what’s the problem?
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:59 pm
by EAP
Kierland wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:53 pm
Of course they don’t care about the environment, any more than you do.
It’s all about the Benjamins, just like in your life.
So what’s the problem?
I got news for you. In the grand scheme of things? We are gone.
All this talk about wiping your dirty ass a bit less, skip the deodorant, don't burn gas, etc.
When ultimately we will be gone.
Extinct.
You are one stupid low IQ brainwashed sheep.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:01 pm
by Kierland
So burn the place down.
Ok Boomer.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:41 pm
by EAP
I've never been a dwarf guy per se,' BUT,
that's strangely erotic.
Isn't she the doctor from "the little couple"??
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:32 am
by Mikey
You love Trump.
You’re capable of just about anything.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:35 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Thanks for the
nightmare fuel...
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Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:44 am
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:13 pm
If any of you have stayed at a hotel in the last year or so you have probably been offered the choice to decline housekeeping for all of part of your stay. They say this is to help the environment by reducing water use and energy use. The property may also offer you addition points for each day you decline housekeeping as their way or saying thank you “for helping the environment.”
This is all fancy marketing speak and has little to do with the environment. It in fact is a way to reduce wages and expenses at the hotel. Each day you decline housekeeping is a day they can reduce housekeeper’s hours and supervisor’s hours. At a mid range property like say a Courtyard where housekeeping will visit your room once per day this choice saves 30 minutes of housekeeping time. It also saves about 10 minutes of supervision time when they sign off on the room. At a full service property where housekeeping does two visits a day and in some cases a third with turndown service this can save 1.5 hours of housekeeping time and 15 mins of supervision time.
This practice started in Seattle where a “living wage” was passed. So in the name of making the “environmental” choice you are cutting the hours a housekeeper gets paid.
Now hotels are taking this a step further. Hyatt announced today they will eliminate all individual toiletries by 2022. They join Marriott and IHG who are already moving to this standard. The hotels claim it is a move to help the environment and reduce plastic waste. What it actually is is a move to help their bottom line. Wall mounted soap/shampoo/conditioner dispensers are difficult to clean and are often not refilled adequately.
If this really were an environmental issue the hotels could use individual shampoo and conditioner bottles made from biodegradable packaging. But this isn’t about the environment, this is about saving money at your expense.
So do you decline housekeeping and will you miss the shampoo bottles you can take home?
Wow, you are one bright cookie. How did you figure this all out?
You're pretty smart for a Rice grad.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:45 am
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:50 pm
Of course I don’t. Far too many stories of the maid wiping the toilet then using the same rag to clean the glasses.
And I agree on those wall mounted soaps and shampoos. Thankfully I have status with Marriott. That by itself means nothing other than I spend a lot of nights in hotels for work. But where it does mean something is I ca still request the individual bottles. Now when I stay at a Hyatt property I will bring my own or stop at a CVS or Walgreens to purchase some of the little bottles.
What is like to live in constant fear of everything? How do you leave the house without wetting yourself?
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:12 pm
by smackaholic
Lefty,
Stop crying.
FIrst thing I do when I get to a hotel for a multi-day stay is put out the "leave me the fukk alone" sign. I don't need a made bed, new shampoo bottles, etc, every day.
And I'm a motherfukking daredevil. I use the glasses sometimes. It's a fukking glass. Even if Consuela rinsed it out with her piss, it's unlikely to harm me. I probably will look at them closer and maybe rinse them first, doing forward. Since you spend much time away from home, how the hell do you trust restaurant food. Do you know who's in that kitchen?
As for why they do this, of course it's to make money. And I am 100% fine with it.
I would even like to see a hotel that took this to the extreme. A small room with a tile floor, a TV, desk, a good bed and pillows. Hand me the bedding/towels at checkin. Charge me a fee if I leave it trashed.
And WTF with bed turn-down service?
The only way I would ever want that is if the turner downer is smoking hot and jumps under the covers. Of course this would be problematic if the OL was along, which is quite often the case.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:53 pm
by Slap
Left Seater wrote:Wall mounted soap/shampoo/conditioner dispensers are difficult to clean and are often not refilled adequately.
I usually pry the top off and blow a load into the shampoo dispenser before I check out.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:09 pm
by EAP
I love it when leftist clowns like sheryl crow tell us to use just 1 square of toilet tissue for each bowel movement.
I wonder how she handles her "period" if she still has one.
Most left wing clowns don't understand what "ice age" means.
They don't understand the sheer magnitude and violence it poses to us humans.
That's why we chuckle at the sheep like mentality of the board leftists.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:47 pm
by Left Seater
I’m not crying, but you do you.
I am just wondering mostly what choice our Board liberals make when checking in? Do they support the environment, or do they support the worker who may be an immigrant?
A choice for one is a move against the other.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:34 pm
by Smackie Chan
The hotel where I work offers a $5 credit toward food & beverage for each day the room isn't serviced if the option is selected. By law, the rooms have to be serviced every third day, so maid service is still provided for long-term stays, just not daily. While the option is offered as part of a "green" program, the real intent is to allow more rooms per day to be turned over faster to allow us to check in more guests early. The amount of guests who select the option is negligible and has little to no impact on the number of housekeepers put on the schedule.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:34 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:36 pm
by smackaholic
The impression I got was you are annoyed that you'll have to buy your own toiletries rather than just pilfer hotel supplies. Hell, I'm just as bad. I go as far as putting a used bar of soap back in the plastic and taking it with me. And yes, the caffeinated kurig pods are looted as well.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:40 pm
by smackaholic
Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:34 pm
The hotel where I work offers a $5 credit toward food & beverage for each day the room isn't serviced if the option is selected. By law, the rooms have to be serviced every third day, so maid service is still provided for long-term stays, just not daily. While the option is offered as part of a "green" program, the real intent is to allow more rooms per day to be turned over faster to allow us to check in more guests early. The amount of guests who select the option is negligible and has little to no impact on the number of housekeepers put on the schedule.
Is this common for hotels? I have never heard of them offering the discount.
Of course, the great majority of my hotel stays are work related, so screw the 5 bucks. I'd rather take it as a voucher for a drink.
Re: Hotels and their claims to help the environment...
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:14 pm
by Innocent Bystander
I've been spoiled, to the point where I've chosen sleeping in my car and showering at travel centers over staying at certain chains and with certain independent 'hoteliers'. A bed where I'm staring at the ceiling or the door all night isn't really a bed.
Then there are the hotels who hire nothing but illegals and sponsored family members. They aren't hiring Americans, and don't care about Americans.
The bush is different, because there aren't any choices, or the choices are 180s of each other. There are no amenities, bring your own toiletries (and sometimes your own bed and/or toilet).
I always choose 'do not disturb' because one too many hotels have failed my 'sheets on the floor' housekeeping test. If all they're doing is putting the same sheets back on, I can do that myself. I also dump all towels in the tub at the end of my stay. Not all employees change out towels between guests. I don't know why, but whatever. The next guest can have fresh towels.
There is definitely a difference in hoteliers, if you know the hoteliers background, you'll know how your stay is going to go.