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Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:26 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
You seem preoccupied with death lately...

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:44 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Sorry to hear. That's ruff.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:45 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
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Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:00 pm
by Innocent Bystander
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:26 pm You seem preoccupied with death lately...
Everything dies.

I had to bury one of my dogs last night, in fact. :(
I'm sorry to hear that. Hugs, bro.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:07 pm
by EAP
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:24 pm https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/fo ... ctric-suv/

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Hey - let's make it look like Screwy's mother's colon!
That's a pretty sexy shape.
But honestly? With the monster sales of the F-150 line alone,
It would take armageddon or our sun exploding to kill ford.
The F-150 is the ultimate insurance policy. Ford could roll out the Edsel again alongside an exploding pinto and still survive on their truck business alone.

Relax

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:02 am
by Mikey
Yeah if they didn't call it a Mustang I would be OK as a new EV.

What are they going to do to attract the traditional Mustang buyer, provide variable volume fake V8 exhaust noise?

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:05 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Mikey wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:02 am ...provide variable volume fake V8 exhaust noise?
That sure worked out well for Volkswagen...

:o

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:06 am
by Mikey
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:05 am
Mikey wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:02 am ...provide variable volume fake V8 exhaust noise?
That sure worked out well for Volkswagen...

:o
Ford does it on their current Mustangs.

Soundcheck: 2018 Ford Mustang GT Exhaust With Variable Loudness
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/soun ... 20221.html

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:08 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Mikey wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:06 am Ford does it on their current Mustangs.
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Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am
by Derron
Pure crap and I am a Ford guy. A couple of Mustang lines on the roof and front fenders, but the rest of that front end clip is horrendous.

The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days and this piece of shit is a huge nail in the coffin. To even have the name on an EV is bullshit. I don't buy new vehicles anyway, and would never buy one of these POS.

I owned several Mustangs over the year, a 67 Fastback with a 390 4 speed was my favorite. Gasoline engine, loud exhaust, burn rubber. Fuck the Electric Mustang.

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Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:16 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Derron wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am
The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days...
It died for me with the Fox Body...but that's just my opinion.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:18 am
by EAP
Derron wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am Pure crap and I am a Ford guy. A couple of Mustang lines on the roof and front fenders, but the rest of that front end clip is horrendous.

The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days and this piece of shit is a huge nail in the coffin. To even have the name on an EV is bullshit. I don't buy new vehicles anyway, and would never buy one of these POS.

I owned several Mustangs over the year, a 67 Fastback with a 390 4 speed was my favorite. Gasoline engine, loud exhaust, burn rubber. Fuck the Electric Mustang.

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Oh, you're a "ford" guy?
MY ASS!

THE shelby gt 350 and the 500,
I put up against any fuckin car on the planet.
They are driver's cars.
On the track, it handles light years better than a challenger or the camaro.

You're a "ford" guy?
No fuckin way.

The 67 mustang is garbage.
Great in 1967.
Today, next to these shelby's?
GARBAGE.

Do you know who Jay Leno is?
He's driven every exotic super car on planet earth.
Oh, and he owns most of them too.
He says that after driving the shelby, he puts it up against every single one of those exotic cars
See, the shelby is a different beast than the normal 5.0 mustang.
A different beast altogether.

Who are you next to jay Leno?
A zero.

I can't believe I had to explain this to a so called ford guy
Fuckin shit.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:23 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Dins in 5...4...3...2...1...

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:53 am
by Screw_Michigan
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:31 pm Everything dies.

I had to bury one of my dogs last night, in fact. :(
Sorry, broski.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:02 am
by Derron
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:16 am
Derron wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am
The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days...
It died for me with the Fox Body...but that's just my opinion.
The Mustang has died off and risen again several times. That abortion of the Mustang II damn near killed it. The Fox body starting in 92 was decent, the double headlights sucked. I owned two 67's, one 72 and a 94. The ones since then are all alike.

Anybody with a credit rating can own one now.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:04 am
by Derron
Papa Willie wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:54 am
Sudden Sam wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:30 pm My only complaint is their appending the Mustang name. WTF is the point of that?!

Call it the Mach-E and be done.

Sorry about your critter, Spray. That sucks big time.
Agree with you & Mikey. That thing in no way resembles a Mustang of ANY type.

Thanks for the dog thoughts. She was 16, so we were somewhat prepared...
Sorry to hear about your pup. That is always tough. Done it too many times myself. 16 years is a good dog life.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:59 am
by smackaholic
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:16 am
Derron wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am
The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days...
It died for me with the Fox Body...but that's just my opinion.
The Fox body was actually the beginning of its first resurrection after the horrific Mustang II. My first car was a '74 "mach 1". WTF was I thinking? Solid lifter V-6 turd. It was a pinto with a weight problem. Absolute garbage.

The wife has a '12 V-6 6 speed.

She likes it.

I like 3rd gear on ramp pulls in it, other than that, meh. My TDI Sportwagen is more fun to drive.

As for handling, I have not had the pleasure of driving the latest Shelby stuff with the coyote V-8, but I hear it is pretty fukking glorious. I have drivn a V-6 rental Camaro which impressed the hell out of me. Way more fun to flog than the OL's 'stang.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:18 pm
by L45B
Ford will never be Ford again until they bring back the Crown Vic.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:29 pm
by Dinsdale
Olds will never be Olds again until they bring back... automobiles.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:37 pm
by EAP
L45B wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:18 pm Ford will never be Ford again until they bring back the Crown Vic.
100% correct sir.
Built like a tank, used by our finest to catch scum bags.
The crown vic is an icon.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:41 pm
by EAP
smackaholic wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:59 am
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:16 am
Derron wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am
The Mustang tradition will die out one of these days...
It died for me with the Fox Body...but that's just my opinion.
The Fox body was actually the beginning of its first resurrection after the horrific Mustang II. My first car was a '74 "mach 1". WTF was I thinking? Solid lifter V-6 turd. It was a pinto with a weight problem. Absolute garbage.

The wife has a '12 V-6 6 speed.

She likes it.

I like 3rd gear on ramp pulls in it, other than that, meh. My TDI Sportwagen is more fun to drive.

As for handling, I have not had the pleasure of driving the latest Shelby stuff with the coyote V-8, but I hear it is pretty fukking glorious. I have drivn a V-6 rental Camaro which impressed the hell out of me. Way more fun to flog than the OL's 'stang.
Excuse me?
The shelby doesn't have the coyote v8 mofo.
It's the voodoo v8.
Got it?
The 350 has a flat plane-crank.
With the naturally aspirated voodoo v8.
The 500 gets the same engine,
Super charged!!!!
Got it now???

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:02 pm
by smackaholic
My bad. I thought the flat plane V-8 in the 350 was the coyote. It is the voodoo.

I wish they'd have gone with twin turbos rather than a supercharger. Turbos are more efficient.

The euros have gone pretty much exclusively with turbos do have the advantage of torque RIGHT FUKKING NOW, but advances in turbo design have greatly reduced lag.

What Ford ought to do to eliminate lag, is go with a hybrid system similar to what MB has done. Add a pancake electric motor/flywheel. Get rid of all drive belts and run all your pumps off electricity.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:29 pm
by Kierland
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:26 pm You seem preoccupied with death lately...
Everything dies.

I had to bury one of my dogs last night, in fact. :(
And by bury you mean eat.

I’m sure your dog is glad to no longer be saddled with your fat ass.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:12 am
by EAP
Kierland wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:29 pm
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:26 pm You seem preoccupied with death lately...
Everything dies.

I had to bury one of my dogs last night, in fact. :(
And by bury you mean eat.

I’m sure your dog is glad to no longer be saddled with your fat ass.
That's just mean.
Have you no couth sir?
Bagdaddy died like a dog.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:52 am
by EAP
Papa Willie wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:32 am
EAP wrote: Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:12 am
Kierland wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:29 pm

And by bury you mean eat.

I’m sure your dog is glad to no longer be saddled with your fat ass.
That's just mean.
Have you no couth sir?
Bagdaddy died like a dog.
You have to understand that he's praying for the day his little boy walks into his bedroom, pulls out an AK 47 - and blows him away...
Shit, sounds like the kid from sandy hook.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:35 am
by BSmack
EAP wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:37 pm
L45B wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:18 pm Ford will never be Ford again until they bring back the Crown Vic.
100% correct sir.
Built like a tank, used by our finest to catch scum bags.
The crown vic is an icon.
Be careful what you wish for. The could bring back the Crown Vic as a eco friendly minivan.

Re: Ford is trying to kill themselves.

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:16 am
by Cornhusker
Papa Willie wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Everything dies.

I had to bury one of my dogs last night, in fact. :(
Condolences Buttsie. :(
They love without expectation. No human being can say the same.