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Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:37 pm Yeah because team D would have saved us from any issues with the 'Rona.

I guess Gov Cuomo isn't taking it seriously either then since his state is getting worked over eh?

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:53 pm Tens of millions of people who received aid that would not have reached them without the efforts of Team D

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 pm Jared Kushner: we did not start active response phase of dealing with this crisis until 13 days ago.

13 days!

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:24 pm You can't have a properly functioning economy of any size when 1/4 of the people are sick and out of work or dead. You seem to not understand this, but you're basically retired anyway, so you DGAF.

I hate to break it to you, but this "let the people decide" nonsense is why Florida is about to go to hell in a handbasket because your governor is more concerned about covering Trump's ass and owning the libs rather than giving two shits about the people who reside in his state. People weren't taking it seriously because the president wasn't taking it seriously until Tuesday. Please note that other GOP governors such as the ones in Ohio and Maryland actually took Covid seriously, instead of trying to pander to Trump voters like yourself.

Also note, to a strawman builder like yourself: tobacco, alcohol, and driving are all choices. Catching a pandemic, not so much of a choice. But strawman on. Please take your jackboot and shove it up your ass.

Never forget: This is the culmination of 40 years of conservative ideology to destroy the administrative state except for the Pentagon. That all government is bad, and that government should be small enough to drown in a bathtub. And if it isn't small enough to drown, it should exist to serve the rich and powerful and white at the expense of everything else.

So, I hate to say, you are getting exactly what you have voted for over the last 40 years. Live it up.

The Big Pickle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:31 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 pm Jared Kushner: we did not start active response phase of dealing with this crisis until 13 days ago.

13 days!

Fukkk off and die!

.088 wrote:Team D loves you

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:24 pm
Never forget: This is the culmination of 40 years of conservative ideology to destroy the administrative state except for the Pentagon. That all government is bad, and that government should be small enough to drown in a bathtub. And if it isn't small enough to drown, it should exist to serve the rich and powerful and white at the expense of everything else.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:39 am

.088 wrote:Team D loves you

This is why you are -----> a HACK.


Pay attention, squid...

Team R had two years of full control.
They've had another 1+ year with 2/3 control.

And yet...

We have record federal government spending, massive deficit spending, and an exploding national debt.


It's team D that wants the big government, right?


LMAO!






#stooge

Left Seater wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:48 am 88 absolutely owns Screwy in two posts in this thread and Screwy’s response is to change the subject.

I guess he knows his ass was handed to him and he accepts it. Props for that Screwy.

.088 wrote:It is hard to find a single thing that you could identify that the Administrative State does well aside from become larger. It is an inefficient, horrible waste of money and brutally hurts the people it is supposed to help. It makes them dependent and helpless, and prevents the greatness within them from coming out. Team D loves you. Now put those shackles back on and get in the hole. Boss will be by soon to throw you some slop.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:25 pm And yet you specifically pointed out -----> Team D.

.088 wrote:It is hard to find a single thing that you could identify that the Administrative State does well aside from become larger. It is an inefficient, horrible waste of money and brutally hurts the people it is supposed to help. It makes them dependent and helpless, and prevents the greatness within them from coming out. Team D loves you. Now put those shackles back on and get in the hole. Boss will be by soon to throw you some slop.

Dummy.

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:25 pm And yet you specifically pointed out -----> Team D.

.088 wrote:It is hard to find a single thing that you could identify that the Administrative State does well aside from become larger. It is an inefficient, horrible waste of money and brutally hurts the people it is supposed to help. It makes them dependent and helpless, and prevents the greatness within them from coming out. Team D loves you. Now put those shackles back on and get in the hole. Boss will be by soon to throw you some slop.

Dummy.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:04 pm It has and continues to be ... their daily lives will someday probably feel a jackboot on their neck. Be careful what you wish for.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:16 pm
The administrative state is way worse than COVID-19. It should be destroyed. Nothing good has ever come from it.

88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:40 pm
I don't want Team R to be in charge of a large government. I don't like Team R either. I don't like government at all. I want the least government possible. Did you even read the first post here, amoeba?

Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:42 pm

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:16 pm
The administrative state is way worse than COVID-19. It should be destroyed. Nothing good has ever come from it.

And yet you vote for nazis and call people that want to fix it unicorns. Fuck you twat.

Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:42 pm

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:16 pm
The administrative state is way worse than COVID-19. It should be destroyed. Nothing good has ever come from it.

And yet you vote for nazis and call people that want to fix it unicorns. Fuck you twat.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:43 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:37 pm Yeah because team D would have saved us from any issues with the 'Rona.

I guess Gov Cuomo isn't taking it seriously either then since his state is getting worked over eh?

NYC is the densest city in the nation and it is a global city. They were early in the curve and, yes, he took it more seriously than Team R and all of Trump's cultists you've voted for.

88 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:13 pm
100% wrong. The Founders didn't take any power from the King. The King's subjects rebelled in the name of personal and individual liberty. The People did not take power from the King. They asserted their inalienable right to exercise liberty over their own lives. They permitted the Founders to form a government that had limited powers. But being a fan of authoritarian control over People, that absolute fact probably escaped your attention. The Constitution was not adopted and ratified until 1789. The Declaration of independence occurred 13 years earlier. People were fighting against government, not for a new one that had all the same powers that the King claimed. You are wrong. Completely wrong.


I went to an actual law school taught by actual law professors who could read and understood what the words actually said. Plus, they allowed us to read the words too. This government was founded on a very simple principles. The People have the most power. They, through consent, can concede some of that power to their local and then state governments, which they are allowed to define and set up and adjust as they deem appropriate. A federal government is necessary to prevent wars and other conflicts between member states. The Constitution explains the limits on the exercise of federal power, and makes it clear that any power not expressly granted to the federal government is reserved to the People and the States. What did you learn in your correspondence course?

It sounds like we are saying the same thing, (with the exception of you saying they wanted no government, that is absurd) although you don't seem to understand how it happened. Asserting liberty over your own life is what the King had been doing with his life and theirs, so when they rebelled they got the right to do whatevers. Botton line is that we believe that the People should be as free to live their lives as much as possible, but we both know that is not doable any where at any time in history. We also both seem to agree that the heavy lifting should be done locally as much as possible, which leads me to...

Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:41 pm Third) You should look into Syndicalism, it basically like Libertarianism only without all the unicorns and magic.

I don't affiliate with any party. I used to be a registered Democrat because when I lived in Ohio, the Democrat primary determined who would take office after the joke general election. That sort of thing happens when you live in a county and city that is overwhelmingly Democrat. But here, I'm am independent. I agree with some Libertarian policies. But others are unreasonable. Syndicalism is communism with a bow on it so that complete morons can say they are not communists when asked why they support jack-booted authoritarian thugs who want to control the lives of everyone. Naw, I'll just stick with individualism and liberty. It is the only thing that ever works and cannot be attacked by anyone not willing to wear or support people wearing jackboots.

You sound like you have no idea what you believe in but to the extent that you do, Syndicalism is not Communism, it is people working at a local level to help the most people with the resources available. While this is not true of all Syndicalism it is certainly a strain and again it's something you might want to look into if you ever stop being such a tight ass.

mvscal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:11 pm
No, he didn't. Not even remotely. He's a complete moron who was caught totally unprepared and all he does is cry that the Federal government isn't doing enough to bail his dumb fucking ass out.

Fuck him, fuck New York and fuck you.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:04 pm
I don't want to see millions of people die. And social distancing and limiting travel and large gatherings appears to be a good way to limit the possibility that deaths from the COVID-19 virus will increase. But I think those decisions should be in the hands of the people,

Yes, I recognize that there are very many people who are stupid and irresponsible (I should post a picture of people with face tattoos here). But sometimes we have to allow the stupid to be stupid.

Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:41 pm

88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:04 pm It has and continues to be ... their daily lives will someday probably feel a jackboot on their neck. Be careful what you wish for.

A lot to unpack there:
First) The power that our founders took from the King was total. So whenever the question is asked "can the gov do that?" the answer is always yes to some degree because the King could do anything. That total power was then divided and or curtailed by the Bill of Rights. Can the National gov shut down the borders 100%? Yes. Can the Local gov lock you in your house? Yes. They can't lock all the black people up and let the whites out, but they can lock everyone up.
Second) Are you really and Attorney? Because you seem to have a very simple and lay way of looking at the law. Didn't you learn all this in like the first day of con law?
Third) You should look into Syndicalism, it basically like Libertarianism only without all the unicorns and magic.

mvscal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:11 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:43 pm

Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:37 pm Yeah because team D would have saved us from any issues with the 'Rona.

I guess Gov Cuomo isn't taking it seriously either then since his state is getting worked over eh?

NYC is the densest city in the nation and it is a global city. They were early in the curve and, yes, he took it more seriously than Team R and all of Trump's cultists you've voted for.

No, he didn't. Not even remotely. He's a complete moron who was caught totally unprepared and all he does is cry that the Federal government isn't doing enough to bail his dumb fucking ass out.

Fuck him, fuck New York and fuck you.

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:16 pm But NYC is the most population dense city in the US. Also don’t forget it is a global city.

Per Screwy these get him a pass. It is all Trump’s fault.

Don’t forget though that these Team D leaders like Cuomo and LaToya often don’t wait for the Feds on things like global warming and living wages, but apparently when it comes to their citizens public health they sit back and wait to take orders from someone above.

88 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:14 am Time to order another pair of jackboots, apparently.

Left Seater wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:27 pm Screwy has TDS.

Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:38 am

The Big Pickle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:31 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:29 pm Jared Kushner: we did not start active response phase of dealing with this crisis until 13 days ago.

13 days!

Fukkk off and die!

If Jared Kushner said that, it's a terrible admission, but at least it was admitted.