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Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm
by Bill in Houston
Universities across the county have all struggled financially this year.

So why haven't they all asked their highest paid employees to take a pay cut?

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... s-pandemic

I get that your most highly paid employee is also your most important employee (theoretically). But it's irresponsible to not manage costs better during severe financial hardship. University boards should wake up and make correct decisions.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:55 pm
by Kierland
Rich people earned it. Poor people are just lazy.

Sin,
BrokenPsyche

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:25 am
by Left Seater
Of course Bill gets it wrong.

Those schools where the athletic department stands alone and doesn’t take funds from the general school budget shouldn’t be included here. Why cut a coaches salary when none of it comes from student tuition/fees or general endowment?

Different story when it comes to athletic departments where some of the budget comes from the general university fund.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:35 am
by Kierland
And isn’t life just about money anyways?

Sin,
BrokenShedick

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:52 am
by Innocent Bystander
Left Seater wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:25 am Of course Bill gets it wrong.

Those schools where the athletic department stands alone and doesn’t take funds from the general school budget shouldn’t be included here. Why cut a coaches salary when none of it comes from student tuition/fees or general endowment?

Different story when it comes to athletic departments where some of the budget comes from the general university fund.
There isn't going to be college football (or basketball) this year. Now what?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:14 pm
by Bill in Houston
Left Seater wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:25 am Of course Bill gets it wrong.

Those schools where the athletic department stands alone and doesn’t take funds from the general school budget shouldn’t be included here. Why cut a coaches salary when none of it comes from student tuition/fees or general endowment?

Different story when it comes to athletic departments where some of the budget comes from the general university fund.
You’re wrong.

Not surprised.

The accounting method doesn’t affect the decline in revenue.

For public universities these coaches are employees of the state. They are not employed by some private entity separate from the institution.

Why do you persist in continually lying when repeatedly being proven wrong?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:40 pm
by Left Seater
If you insist I will kick your ass again.

Take Texas for instance. Coach Herman isn’t getting any of his salary from the general fund. The football program is fully self supporting. Paying him his full salary or some reduced amount doesn’t change the budget of the university general fund.

Another Bill lie and fail.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by Bill in Houston
You’re an absolute dipshit.

Herman is an employee of UT. You can add all the spin you want but you cannot dispute facts.

You are ignorant of facts. Why don’t you admit to that?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:30 pm
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:40 pm If you insist I will kick your ass again.

Take Texas for instance. Coach Herman isn’t getting any of his salary from the general fund. The football program is fully self supporting. Paying him his full salary or some reduced amount doesn’t change the budget of the university general fund.

Another Bill lie and fail.
They paid for the stadium and the land and the upkeep and the security and they pay shit ton of taxes so the benefits of roads for people to get to the games and broadcast infrastructure is all covered and they have paid back the school for all the years they lost money while the University built up its name and helped the football team build up their’s.

Sin,
:meds:

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:57 pm
by Mikey
My pay got cut 25%, which lasted about a month and was reinstated in June.

They also suspended the 401(k) match but I had already earned the entire annual match (which isn’t all that much) by March.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:54 pm
by Innocent Bystander
https://caanet.org/coronavirus-resource ... -outbreak/

Eviction halting is only through the end of September. Since you own multiple rental properties, you have an attorney. What does your attorney say about offering your leasees the options of a payment plan during the crisis?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 am
by Left Seater
Bill in Houston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Herman is an employee of UT. You can add all the spin you want but you cannot dispute facts.
Again you are arguing with yourself and killing this strawman. Yes Herman is a UT employee. However, his salary isn't paid by any funds from the general fund. All of his salary comes from the income of the athletic department.

Keep kicking your own ass. It is amazing how dumb you are in every single subject.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:22 am
by Innocent Bystander
Left Seater wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Herman is an employee of UT. You can add all the spin you want but you cannot dispute facts.
Again you are arguing with yourself and killing this strawman. Yes Herman is a UT employee. However, his salary isn't paid by any funds from the general fund. All of his salary comes from the income of the athletic department.

Keep kicking your own ass. It is amazing how dumb you are in every single subject.
And if there is no athletic department income this year, what happens?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:31 am
by Left Seater
The $20 million from the Longhorn Network is guaranteed. The donations to the Longhorn Foundation don’t stop. Sale of branded/logo apparel doesn’t stop.

Hell, even with no sports they still probably clear $50 Million.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:47 am
by Bill in Houston
Bwahahaha. Business as usual? You don’t think this has a substantial impact to revenue??

So you’re stupid and dishonest. Right

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:12 am
by Bill in Houston
Left Seater wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:31 am The $20 million from the Longhorn Network is guaranteed. The donations to the Longhorn Foundation don’t stop. Sale of branded/logo apparel doesn’t stop.

Hell, even with no sports they still probably clear $50 Million.
You must not understand anything about management. Multifaceted businesses have overarching decision makers. Decisions are not made in a vacuum. Why would they? Especially during crisis circumstances.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:21 am
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:11 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Herman is an employee of UT. You can add all the spin you want but you cannot dispute facts.
Again you are arguing with yourself and killing this strawman. Yes Herman is a UT employee. However, his salary isn't paid by any funds from the general fund. All of his salary comes from the income of the athletic department.

Keep kicking your own ass. It is amazing how dumb you are in every single subject.
I shot that down and yet you post it again. Fat and stupid. Great job.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:07 am
by Innocent Bystander
What does your attorney say?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:44 pm
by Left Seater
Bill in Houston wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:47 am Bwahahaha. Business as usual? You don’t think this has a substantial impact to revenue??
More lies from Bill. Of course it isn’t business as usual. That is why the revenue would be a third or so of normal.
Bill in Houston wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:12 am You must not understand anything about management. Multifaceted businesses have overarching decision makers. Decisions are not made in a vacuum. Why would they? Especially during crisis circumstances.
Get back to me when you are running a business with 10 employees. I know more than you ever will about management.

Poor little Bill. Lies and straw men still can’t save you.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:39 pm
by Bill in Houston
Left Seater wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:44 pm
Bill in Houston wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:47 am Bwahahaha. Business as usual? You don’t think this has a substantial impact to revenue??
More lies from Bill. Of course it isn’t business as usual. That is why the revenue would be a third or so of normal.
So you agree with me now. Glad you got your little mind straightened out.
Left Seater wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:44 pm
Bill in Houston wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:12 am You must not understand anything about management. Multifaceted businesses have overarching decision makers. Decisions are not made in a vacuum. Why would they? Especially during crisis circumstances.
Get back to me when you are running a business with 10 employees. I know more than you ever will about management.

Poor little Bill. Lies and straw men still can’t save you.
Whoa! You have ten employees!?!?

That’s impressive for someone who doesn’t have the IQ to tie his shoes.

It doesn’t matter what the hell you do. Whether you manage ten or a hundred employees. You’re an idiot as evidenced by each of your posts here.

Go on and be hugely successful with your little operation. In fact, just do that. Hopefully you’re less embarrassing to yourself there as opposed to posting here.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:47 pm
by Left Seater
We never disagreed on who Herman’s employer is.

But sure claim victory, it’s what idiots like you do. You move the goalposts and straw men around so much you lose site of what was being discussed.

As for the actual topic at hand, you remain totally clueless.

And you are damn straight I am proud of my 10 person business. I took the risk, created jobs, and haven’t furloughed or let anyone go. I know you think you know what it means to run a business and how to manage, but you have no clue. Deciding how long you are going to walk the streets of Montrose isn’t management.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:12 pm
by Kierland
Just typing goal post and strawman does not make you smart especially, when you use them in the wrong place you fat asshole.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:04 am
by Derron
Left Seater wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:40 pm
Take Texas for instance. Coach Herman isn’t getting any of his salary from the general fund. The football program is fully self supporting. Paying him his full salary or some reduced amount doesn’t change the budget of the university general fund.
Straight up amateurs. In Oregon, the coaches are state employees. The absolute highest paid state employees ever. Belloti is getting over $ 500,000 a year in PERS retirement pay every fucking years. He has not been on that campus for at least 12 years or more.

Two doctors and a football coach in the top 5. Allotti is a pauper at only $ 22,000 something a month.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:13 am
by Derron
Bill in Houston wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm Universities across the county have all struggled financially this year.

So why haven't they all asked their highest paid employees to take a pay cut?
you dumb fuck. Learn how public employment works. The highest paid throw the lowest paid under the bus so they save their jobs.


I get that your most highly paid employee is also your most important employee (theoretically). But it's irresponsible to not manage costs better during severe financial hardship. University boards should wake up and make correct decisions.
Again your troll ass stupidity comes slithering out of your snake tongue mouth. A good company should be able to function without its CEO just fine if their structure and planning is good. You also have to understand that most university boards are made up of ass kissing cocksuckers much like yourself who really have no clue to the business side of the equation, and are there merely to nod their heads in lockstep agreement with what ever shit project or program the CEO comes up with. That and pick up their directors check and bitch about the catering buffet after the meeting.

For somebody who was cracking on Lefty about employees, you certainly have not demonstrated any kind of meaningful business management abilities other than to spew bullshit.

How many employee paychecks have you signed and how many employees do you manage ? Got any level of profit and loss responsibility in your background ?? I will take your answer on the air please.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:46 am
by Kierland
Says the gov teet sucker.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:33 am
by mvscal
Bill in Houston wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm Universities across the county have all struggled financially this year.

So why haven't they all asked their highest paid employees to take a pay cut?
Ask?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Their highest paid employees are under contract, dumbfuck. They can "ask" in one hand and shit in the other. Which one do you think will fill up first? Good god, you're a fucking idiot. Ask...

:doh:

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:47 am
by Kierland
And the racist pedokkkal chimes in to stand up for the fat cats even though he has no idea about what a contract is and how they work.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:20 pm
by Bill in Houston
I just flushed more knowledge of business down the shitter this morning than you'll acquire in your lifetime. But you asked, so here goes
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:13 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm Universities across the county have all struggled financially this year.

So why haven't they all asked their highest paid employees to take a pay cut?
you dumb fuck. Learn how public employment works. The highest paid throw the lowest paid under the bus so they save their jobs.
This comment shows your political mindset, not any kind of business knowledge. The principals of market efficiency are the same for public or private enterprise. You imply an inefficiency in public entities where high earners dispose of low earners for self preservation. And how long can that continue with reasonable oversite? It becomes too costly and ultimately unsustainable. Don't be a bitter little bitch. Even the Republicans understand the role of public operations and employment. You however aren't capable of understanding the difference between your ass and a hat.


Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:13 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm I get that your most highly paid employee is also your most important employee (theoretically). But it's irresponsible to not manage costs better during severe financial hardship. University boards should wake up and make correct decisions.
Again your troll ass stupidity comes slithering out of your snake tongue mouth. A good company should be able to function without its CEO just fine if their structure and planning is good.
Technically the business should be able to operate without a CEO, but proper functioning would need an ultimate decision maker.
Now what the fuck does that have to do with anything I posted? You should put down your meth pipe before proceeding to expose your ignorance on a message board.
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:13 am

You also have to understand that most university boards are made up of ass kissing cocksuckers much like yourself who really have no clue to the business side of the equation, and are there merely to nod their heads in lockstep agreement with what ever shit project or program the CEO comes up with. That and pick up their directors check and bitch about the catering buffet after the meeting.
Care to back this up with any kind of evidence? Or did you just pull that out of your ass along with any other take you've ever had?

Major universities are multi-billion dollar organizations. They are governed by boards with diverse members with multiple skill sets. This includes business acumen as well as management skills, organizational development experts and human resource managers. All told a typical board of directors for a major university has a wealth of resources that it relies upon. The President of the university works with the board much like a private corporation would with proper governance. Each with roles and responsibilities, for the ultimate goal of the entity's mission.

I know this is now going far over your head, so go ahead and take a rest and come back. I'll continue to kick your ass for everyone else to see.
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:13 am
For somebody who was cracking on Lefty about employees, you certainly have not demonstrated any kind of meaningful business management abilities other than to spew bullshit.
I'll crack LS's head like a walnut and plunger your shit takes until they end where they belong.

Universities have every incentive possible, just like private business to operate efficiently. That includes cost management. When revenues are strained it's especially important to make adjustments wherever and however possible. Is this difficult for you to understand? Do you think that a multi-billion dollar university would not do this while a multi-billion dollar corporation would?

Your ignorance has gotten you in way over your head. Go ahead and start a topic where you have a take that doesn't look like it streamed from your anus.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:36 pm
by Bill in Houston
mvscal wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:33 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:42 pm Universities across the county have all struggled financially this year.

So why haven't they all asked their highest paid employees to take a pay cut?
Ask?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Their highest paid employees are under contract, dumbfuck. They can "ask" in one hand and shit in the other. Which one do you think will fill up first? Good god, you're a fucking idiot. Ask...

:doh:
Yes, I said ask.

Not everything gets done by threat and coercion you fucking Nazi POS.

Civilized societies have laws which govern people. You're a fucking Nazi so you don't understand this.

A contract is a particular kind of law. It involves offer and acceptance. An ask and agreement.

Your head is now spinning like a top, so do what you do best and run away. But don't come back to ankle bite, lest you get swatted again.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:14 pm
by Kierland
Pedokkkal has never heard of the modification of a contract. He thinks they are written on actual stones.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:54 pm
by Derron
Bill in Houston wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:20 pm The principals of market efficiency are the same for public or private enterprise. You imply an inefficiency in public entities where high earners dispose of low earners for self preservation. And how long can that continue with reasonable oversite? It becomes too costly and ultimately unsustainable.
You could have stopped there before continuing to fist yourself into a public state of sexual arousal. We could take each of your statements and absolutely kick your ass with them had you not already done it yourself. The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here. But by all means continue to post such bullshit so the rest of us can continue to laugh and ridicule your bitch ass.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm
by Derron
Bill in Houston wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:20 pm The principals of market efficiency are the same for public or private enterprise. You imply an inefficiency in public entities where high earners dispose of low earners for self preservation. And how long can that continue with reasonable oversite? It becomes too costly and ultimately unsustainable.
You could have stopped there before continuing to fist yourself into a public state of sexual arousal. We could take each of your statements and absolutely kick your ass with them had you not already done it yourself. The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here. But by all means continue to post such bullshit so the rest of us can continue to laugh and ridicule your bitch ass.

And you are not that good at running trolls either you filthy cunt.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:10 pm
by Kierland
In the private sector you can make bids on public sector jobs to fuck up ball fields by adding a bunch of sand cause you have never even cracked a book on soil science. And then go home and smoke some meth.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:55 pm
by Bill in Houston
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm
The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here.
Lay down the meth pipe, tweaker.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:37 am
by Derron
Bill in Houston wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:55 pm
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm
The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here.
Lay down the meth pipe, tweaker.
You are the one on the ice fuck nose...thinking that public and private sectors are any kind of equal footing. Fellate a pistol soy boy.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:39 am
by Kierland
IKYSMBWAM.

Great job you tweaking shitbag.

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:46 am
by Bill in Houston
Derron wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:37 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:55 pm
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm
The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here.
Lay down the meth pipe, tweaker.
You are the one on the ice fuck nose...thinking that public and private sectors are any kind of equal footing. Fellate a pistol soy boy.

Lay it out fuckface. Tell me how business principles for public entities are different than private entities.

So far all you have done is to spew shit about how you know nothing about anything.

This is your chance to demonstrate you have a single brain cell. Give your best shot.

But know this. If you continue to bring your weak ass shit I will crush you beyond your imagination. Obviously self-humiliation is no thing for you, but I’ll enjoy the exchange. Go ahead little bitch, what do you have?

Re: Pay Cuts

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:48 am
by Bill in Houston
Derron wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:37 am
Bill in Houston wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:55 pm
Derron wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:56 pm
The fact you equate market efficiencies in the public and private sector shows you have zero knowledge of how any market works, and that you have zero understanding about such work ethics and dynamics and that by posting such ignorance, you show yourself to be the dumbest troll ass mother fucker posting here.
Lay down the meth pipe, tweaker.
You are the one on the ice fuck nose...thinking that public and private sectors are any kind of equal footing. Fellate a pistol soy boy.
Break it down for us Muther Fukkah. Tell us what you know about the difference between public and private entities.