Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:05 am
So what? We are talking about liberty not polls.
Don't you get it?
That is liberty.
After the first trimester, unless the mother's life is in danger, the majority of civilized people believe the infant's liberty is above the mother's "convenience."
Surely your brilliant legal mind can wrap itself around such a concept.
We get it. The government dictates to the individual. This is the definition of freedumb, eerrrrr authoritarianism, eerrr stop it.
Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:05 am
So what? We are talking about liberty not polls.
Don't you get it?
That is liberty.
After the first trimester, unless the mother's life is in danger, the majority of civilized people believe the infant's liberty is above the mother's "convenience."
Surely your brilliant legal mind can wrap itself around such a concept.
We get it. The government dictates to the individual. This is the definition of freedumb, eerrrrr authoritarianism, eerrr stop it.
JPG is spastic and not particularly articulate, but it is a valid point.
One may not be deprived of life without due process of law under the United States Constitution. "Now is not a good time for mommy" is not a particularly compelling legal standard for snuffing someone, in my opinion.
As long as the right people continue to be aborted, I'm not inclined to make much of a fuss over it, though.
Don't you get it?
That is liberty.
After the first trimester, unless the mother's life is in danger, the majority of civilized people believe the infant's liberty is above the mother's "convenience."
Surely your brilliant legal mind can wrap itself around such a concept.
We get it. The government dictates to the individual. This is the definition of freedumb, eerrrrr authoritarianism, eerrr stop it.
JPG is spastic and not particularly articulate, but it is a valid point.
One may not be deprived of life without due process of law under the United States Constitution. "Now is not a good time for mommy" is not a particularly compelling legal standard for snuffing someone, in my opinion.
As long as the right people continue to be aborted, I'm not inclined to make much of a fuss over it, though.
So white supremacy is freedumb, eerrr authoritarian….
Ah fuck it with all of you POS
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:26 am
by Screw_Michigan
mvscal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:07 am
JPG is spastic and not particularly articulate, but it is a valid point.
One may not be deprived of life without due process of law under the United States Constitution. "Now is not a good time for mommy" is not a particularly compelling legal standard for snuffing someone, in my opinion.
As long as the right people continue to be aborted, I'm not inclined to make much of a fuss over it, though.
Women who off their babies because they're inconvenient amount to 0.001% of all abortions, but mvscunt and all his pegging GQP friends want to use it as an excuse to make women beg for their lives if their pregnancies go south. Cunt.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:27 am
by Kierland
Yeah pedokkkal is still a racist POS.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:28 am
by Screw_Michigan
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:27 am
Yeah pedokkkal is still a racist POS.
Women who off their babies due to "inconvenience" is the 21st century version of Reagan's welfare queen.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:57 am
by Innocent Bystander
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:27 am
Yeah pedokkkal is still a racist POS.
He's an honest hater, though, unlike the ADL.
What does it mean when those screaming the loudest about abortion bans as an assault on religious freedom are providers, not patients?
Innocent Bystander wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:00 am
Woman to woman, that's total bullshit.
You should be banned for your avatar.
Whatever. When I look at it, I think of Flora Purim.
The magic is in the details, so much is packed within
that little AI painting, someone put thought into the
query for this image ... it's Catholic and magical...
the balance of fruit and poison, dream logic and flesh,
Flora sings
Here I come from the other side
Thousands of stories to tell
About the Clown and the Columbine
And about Heavens and Hell
Good day, life, welcome to forever
I can feel you in my space
Crystal silence, (time is life?)
Open your eyes, you can fly, fly, fly, fly, fly, fly, fly, fly
If you don't believe me
If you don't believe me
You don't have to believe in me
If you don't believe me
If you don't believe me
You don't have to believe in me
Just because you don't believe
Don't mean y'ain't gonna be
Just because you don't believe
Don't mean y'ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be
Ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be, ain't gonna be
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:26 am
Women who off their babies because they're inconvenient amount to 0.001% of all abortions,
Woman to woman, that's total bullshit.
That post by screw is total bullshit.
Most abortions ARE because it's inconvenient.
You are a delusional detached sheep
Yes, it is bullshit. Why does that male me delusional, friend?
The overwhelming majority of abortions have historically always been for convenience. THAT is the crux of control. Whores abort, mistresses abort, lovers abort. Women who are ashamed of their semen donors' identities abort. Women who have other shit to do in their lives beside shit a brat out abort. Women whose lovers are ashamed of them abort, because the lover's family is paying. Women who have a figure and/or a reputation to maintain, they abort.
Abortion allows women to fuck and get on with their lives without worrying about a dependent cramping their style. That is Western abortion. That is control.
But there's a social problem where that control is a first option instead of a last option. It's not really the control it's supposed to be.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:18 pm
by Kierland
So you like to kill babies as long as they are young enough. Face it tard. You are pro choice.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:11 pm
by Kierland
It’s like talking to a pretzel.
Re: And some, I suppose, are good people...
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:30 pm
by Innocent Bystander
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:11 pm
It’s like talking to a pretzel.
Twisted logic defines the abortion debate from the pro-choice side, Kierland. It didn't have to be that way, but I understand why.
Dehumanization is the easier sell. It socially removes responsibility and accountability. Women are social.
Women who get abortions are taught to lie socially, hide publicly; because women know their social support networks will be removed if they tell the truth.
Kierland wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:18 pm
So you like to kill babies as long as they are young enough. Face it tard. You are pro choice.
No.
It's called being "humane". Abortion stops a beating heart. Genocide is humane, now? Should have put contraceptives in the water supply instead of fluoride. Or maybe they already have, given rising male sterility.
Science, ever heard of it? Science changes.
Back then, left-wing democrats used to call it, "a gobbledygook of primordial goo, what you refer to as your jizz down in soho.
But I digress...... And they were wrong. But that's an easier sell than the truth -- especially when it scientifically dehumanized blacks on top.
Today, Science has shown that even a "preemie" infant can go on to live a full long life. True. That's probably where quality of life comes into play, though. Do you want to raise a Downie, an autist, an HIV+, an addicted baby, a mixed race baby, a girl? Those are VERY hard decisions to make. Just as there are women who regret aborting a kid because their social life was more important at the time, there are women who regret not aborting. Those are women who have even less of a social support network than those who abort. Who is looking out for their mental health?
Where's that science?
So yes, once it's got a heartbeat, wiggles it's nose, sucks it's own thumb, gives a left-wing retard like you the finger, it's straight up murder unless the mother's life is in danger. That's Kierland pretzel logic. It's always murder, regardless of whether the mother's life is in danger. It doesn't gain humanity by escaping the clasp of a cooch. It doesn't lose humanity because it is ectopic or if the mother threatens suicide if it's not made dead. Whose life is worth more? It's a human being, but whose life is worth more?
This is all hoe babble, by the way. I agree with you, JP: abortion is murder. But I also agree with Kierland: it's a murder which should remain legalized. What I don't agree with is the targeted genocide aspect. Abortion (like euthanasia) should be the last resort, not a lucrative baby-part selling industry.
and it wouldn’t matter.