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NYC man accused of placing Jordan Neely in chokehold defends actions

The college student and Marine veteran accused of putting Jordan Neely in a fatal chokehold on a New York City subway released his first statement Friday since the incident, saying he acted in self-defense. The statement also identified the 24-year-old for the first time as Daniel Penny.

The three paragraphs released through Penny’s lawyers alleges that Neely “aggressively” threatened Penny and other passengers. It added that Penny “never intended to harm Mr. Neely and could not have foreseen his untimely death.”

No one, including Penny, has been charged in connection with Neely’s death, which was ruled a homicide by the city’s medical examiner on Wednesday evening. The Manhattan district attorney’s office said earlier this week that they were reviewing the medical examiner’s report and video footage and interviewing witnesses as part of an investigation into the incident.

Penny expressed his condolences to those who knew Neely, 30, who used to perform on the subway as a Michael Jackson impersonator.

The fatal incident has become a flash point in New York and across the country after videos surfaced this week of Neely flailing his arms, kicking his legs and trying to free himself as Penny held him in a chokehold on the floor of the train. Neely was taken to the hospital once he was released from the hold and pronounced dead.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 11:11 am Screwey, you are a race baiting POS.

But, we already knew that.

What the fukk would you do if you were on that car with a deranged person screaming at everyone?

Do you just stand there praying that he won't pull out a knife and stab someone or maybe wait until he gets to the platform and throws someone in front of a train, as has happened all too often?

This has absolutely nothing to do with race. This about the fact that we allow severely mentally ill people to wander freely in public where they are a risk to themselves and everyone around them.

Do you think that guy got up that morning and thought "I think I'll go ride the train today and maybe choke out some mvscal"?

No, he was minding his own fukking business until this crazy fukk got in his face. He then used his training to subdue him. Sounds to me like he's a brave young man with the guts to protect himselves and others around him.

But now we'll have to deal with the race arsonists who couldn't possibly care about the epidemic of actual murder going on around them, but all of a sudden when certain demographics line up, it's protest time.

smackaholic wrote:What the fukk would you do if you were on that car with a deranged person screaming at everyone?

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 11:11 am Screwey, you are a race baiting POS.

Softball Bat wrote:

smackaholic wrote:What the fukk would you do if you were on that car with a deranged person screaming at everyone?

I was on a bus here in Korea one time when a deranged man starting going off on everyone.

I was like ----->


The psycho kept going off, cursing, threatening people, etc.
Everyone just sat there.

Then all of a sudden one older lady starting barking at him, telling him to sit down and stfu.

I couldn't believe it.

Psycho did in fact stop his threatening, sat down, and shut his hole. lol


Good times!

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:04 pm You forgot how the white dude got to walk away unshot by the police.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:08 pm

Softball Bat wrote:

smackaholic wrote:What the fukk would you do if you were on that car with a deranged person screaming at everyone?

I was on a bus here in Korea one time when a deranged man starting going off on everyone.

I was like ----->


The psycho kept going off, cursing, threatening people, etc.
Everyone just sat there.

Then all of a sudden one older lady starting barking at him, telling him to sit down and stfu.

I couldn't believe it.

Psycho did in fact stop his threatening, sat down, and shut his hole. lol


Good times!

I’m sure someone told him to STFU. He didn’t.

People should not have to worry about being harassed by mentally I’ll people when they go out in public.

This guy had a long history of being batshit crazy and should have been in a facility where maybe he could have gotten the help he needs.

Unfortunately we decided, I. A bipartisan effort, close to 50 years ago that the mentally ill have the right to wander among us.

We really need to revisit that decision.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:08 pm

Softball Bat wrote:

smackaholic wrote:What the fukk would you do if you were on that car with a deranged person screaming at everyone?

I was on a bus here in Korea one time when a deranged man starting going off on everyone.

I was like ----->


The psycho kept going off, cursing, threatening people, etc.
Everyone just sat there.

Then all of a sudden one older lady starting barking at him, telling him to sit down and stfu.

I couldn't believe it.

Psycho did in fact stop his threatening, sat down, and shut his hole. lol


Good times!

I’m sure someone told him to STFU. He didn’t.

People should not have to worry about being harassed by mentally I’ll people when they go out in public.

This guy had a long history of being batshit crazy and should have been in a facility where maybe he could have gotten the help he needs.

Unfortunately we decided, I. A bipartisan effort, close to 50 years ago that the mentally ill have the right to wander among us.

We really need to revisit that decision.


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Booger wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 5:53 pm We don’t know if he was physically threatening riders. Why would the ex-marine hold him unless he was frightening people? Too many questions at this point.

Donnie Baker wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 6:35 pmHealthy skepticism should be everyone's default position.

Sadly, it isn't.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:46 pmThere is no one, around here anyways, to my left. So I got that going for me, which is nice.

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 12:36 pm I’d ignore him.

Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 11:17 pm

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:46 pmThere is no one, around here anyways, to my left. So I got that going for me, which is nice.

This isn't so much a left/right issue as much as one of trust vs distrust of "the gov't," and it's even a lot muddier than that because there's a time and partisan element to it. Those today who would refer to others as sheeple because they might believe and/or endorse something coming out of the WH would NEVER consider themselves to be a member of the flock when they did the same thing for a President of the party they support.

It's only natural to have a distrust of government when the face of that government happens to be the leader of the opposition party, and to be more trustful when your party's in charge. But when people assess themselves regarding their ability to harbor just the right amount of distrust against "the gov't" regardless of who's in the WH, they're likely to score themselves higher than others around them would.

And who's to say who's right?

Fwiw, it's as foolish to believe that everything "the gov't" says is a lie as it is to believe it's the truth.

Biggie wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 12:38 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 12:36 pm I’d ignore him.

It’s harder than it sounds.

Kierland wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:12 amNever once did I choke a dude out.

88BuckeyeGrad wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 3:48 am

Kierland wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:12 amNever once did I choke a dude out.

The neck is fairly high. How many times did you latch onto an ankle?

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 4:54 pm First off, how about your party start funding mental healthcare.

L45B wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 12:21 pm NYC is a giant flaming shithole. The subways have been like this since the Covid situation. I have witnessed the mentally ill assault old men and minority women numerous times in the last year. This situation is the clear exception, most of the time onlookers just sit uncomfortably waiting for the doors to open at the next stop. This guy had over 40 past ‘incidences’, he likely had this coming. I have said here many times that I don’t look to intercede if not necessary but I do carry a knife and have packed a .22 in my briefcase when traveling in the subway with my children. Mentally ill folks in this town have also been known to stab and shoot people, other than just scream at them. If anyone did that to my kids while we were heading to Central Park or school, that bum would be dead just like this guy.

Booger wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 1:27 pm The far lefties in here would have preferred that Neely killed several riders.