One Dead Rose

[kcdave]

Pete = Dead

https://www.tmz.com/2024/09/30/pete-ros ... -baseball/

[Mikey]

RIP. I was never a fan, but definitely a GOAT, who was shit on by MLB. Especially considering the shit that goes on today.

[Roach]

What a great all around baseball guy. Fukker had balls man, loved those headfirst slides.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Pete was part of my formative baseball years. The energy in the stadium changed when he was on the bases.

[Diego in Seattle]

One of the greatest of all time.

But as to his ban....PSGWSP.

And I've read that outside of baseball he was dumber than a rock.

[dan's college room mate]

One of the greatest of all time.

But as to his ban....PSGWSP.

And I've read that outside of baseball he was dumber than a rock.

I’d say that being an idiot outside a narrow skill set is rather common with athletes.


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[dan's college room mate]

As for his ban, if they had evidence of him betting against his team and any examples of him doing anything that could be interpreted as him throwing a game, I’d be for the ban.

But there isn’t. Not a single bit.

Pete played as hard as anyone. Harder than most.

Put him in the hall.


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[88BuckeyeGrad]

I was going to suggest that the thread title should be Charlie Hearstle.

[Mikey]

I was going to suggest that the thread title should be Charlie Hearstle.

Or Pete Assumed the Prone Position.

[Diego in Seattle]

Rose Slides Head First Into 1st Grave

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Rose Slides Head First Into 1st Grave

Rack

[L45B]

Casket lowered. Ban officially lifted.

[Carson]

Charlie Dustpile

[mvscal]

OK. Guess they can put him in the HoF now.

[Screw_Michigan]

OK. Guess they can put him in the HoF now.

I can see why you're bitter. Like you, Rose was attracted to underage girls.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Sounds like Kiana Kim is available. I'm married but Screwy could make a run at her.

Hey, Screwball, can your mom drive you on the date?

[Roux]

Aren't there rules here? She was a Playboy model after all.

[Softball Bat]

Pete Rose's final interview.

[Softball Bat]

Pete Rose is on a short list of most compelling sports figures in American history.
In my lifetime, I would rank only Muhammad Ali (and maybe Bobby Knight) higher.

Rose played from 1963 to 1986.
I believe most Americans under about 45 don't realize what the country was really like between '63 and '86.
To say the very least, 1963 to 1986 is not 2024.

For about the first half of Rose's career, baseball was the most popular sport in America, and for the second half of his career, baseball was at least equal in popularity to the NFL.
Growing up as a kid in the '60s and '70s, I loved baseball as much as I loved the NFL.


For 21 consecutive seasons, Rose had at least 120 hits.
In 16 of those seasons he had at least 170 hits, and in 10 of those seasons he had over 200 hits.
He was a lifetime .303 hitter.
He played in more winning games than any player in MLB history.

Charlie Hustle was the ultimate gamer.
He came to fvckin' play, EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.
He was going to run through a brick wall to make a play, EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.

If he had a son who was playing sports, every red-blooded American father wanted his kid to play his sport the way Pete Rose played baseball.
America was a different world from 1963 to 1986.

What people knew about Pete Rose is what they read in the newspapers, or saw on TV.
In the first portion of Pete's career, that was about it.

In the 2nd half of Pete's career, there was more TV exposure, and a person would see more actual interviews with players.
In the later portion of Rose's career, cable TV came into the mix, and things started to change for Pete at this time.

Pete Rose was always very generous and friendly with the media, and the local Cincy reporters loved him, because he was always available, he was always candid, and he always gave them something to write.
He had a good relationship with the media.

Local media people, and other players and club management knew that Pete was involved in unsavory activities, but the world was different in Rose's era, and especially in the first half of his career.
Nobody was going to "rat him out" because he was on friendly terms with everyone, and because he was... Pete Fvckin' Rose.

Pete Rose was an arrogant narcissist.
He thought he could roll however he wanted, always, and it would never be a problem for him.
What Rose didn't calculate was that the world was becoming a different place in the mid-1980's.

Pete did a whole lot of things he should have never done.
And when he was busted on it, he lied about it.
For years and years, he lied to the American people about his gambling on baseball.

Pete Rose went to prison.
Pete Rose finally admitted that he bet on baseball.
Pete Rose was banned from baseball and he, a complete first ballot hall of famer if there ever was one, never saw himself on a hall of fame ballot.

Pete became a largely sympathetic figure.
Most fans felt that he paid enough of a price, and that MLB should have allowed him on the ballot.

Pete Rose was very active in memorabilia shows, etc, and continued for most of his life to grant interviews and make appearances.
He was always lively, fresh, interesting, and he told great old stories.
Fans of baseball loved Pete Rose.
He represented nostalgia, and a "better" time in American life.
Men were men, and men played sports HARD.

Pete Rose was a champion for a lot of people.
However, he was a deeply flawed, and even warped, individual.

Charlie Hustle, the all-time MLB hits leader, went to his grave having never seen his name on a hall of fame ballot.

In the wake of the death of Pete Rose, I saw Bob Costas and Brent Musburger offer the take that what MLB should have done with Pete Rose a long time ago is allow him to be on the ballot.
And when he was voted IN, identity at the bottom of his HoF plague that he received a lifetime ban from baseball.
And leave it at that.

Temper justice with mercy.

Pete Rose was one-of-a-kind.
I don't think baseball will ever see another one quite like him.

[Troll#3]

Nice tribute.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Nice tribute.

3nd

[mvscal]

OK. Guess they can put him in the HoF now.

I can see why you're bitter. Like you, Rose was attracted to underage girls.

Bitter about what? Rose is/was a world class shitbag. The only thing you can see are your own rectal polyps.

[The Seer]

And I've read that outside of baseball he was dumber than a rock.

No one better dispute your personal expertise on that subject.