Letter to Rep. Tony Gonzales from Mayorkas’ office dated 9/25/24 states that, as of 7/21/24, there are 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket.
Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges.
Nah, Central and South American countries aren’t emptying their jails and prisons.
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:46 pm
Letter to Rep. Tony Gonzales from Mayorkas’ office dated 9/25/24 states that, as of 7/21/24, there are 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories on ICE’s national docket.
Of those, 435,719 are convicted criminals, and 226,847 have pending criminal charges.
Nah, Central and South American countries aren’t emptying their jails and prisons.
Why would you believe anything that Trump claims when most of what he says is either distortions or outright lies?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:37 pm
by Roux
Which is it this time, a distortion or an outright lie?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:01 pm
by Mikey
You have to cut him some slack when it comes to numbers. He can’t count past 10 without taking his shoes off.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:15 pm
by Roux
Well, it wasn't at the Coachella venue, it was at a former manure farm. And then people were stranded there for hours because trump didn't pay for the buses.
So this time, both a distortion and an outright lie.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:33 pm
by Mikey
Looks like they’re still harvesting bullshit there though.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:04 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
I wonder. What is an acceptable number of illegals with criminal backgrounds on the loose in the US? On a rolling average, let's say. Give us a number.
Why don't you take your critical eye and cast it upon trump, and then be honest with yourself about what you see?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:18 pm
by The Seer
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:04 pm
I wonder. What is an acceptable number of illegals with criminal backgrounds on the loose in the US? On a rolling average, let's say. Give us a number.
Roux wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:17 pm
HPG, you're still projecting.
Why don't you take your critical eye and cast it upon trump, and then be honest with yourself about what you see?
That’s asking a lot.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:20 pm
by The Seer
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:04 pm
I wonder. What is an acceptable number of illegals with criminal backgrounds on the loose in the US? On a rolling average, let's say. Give us a number.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:20 pm
by Mikey
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:04 pm
I wonder. What is an acceptable number of illegals with criminal backgrounds on the loose in the US? On a rolling average, let's say. Give us a number.
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Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:34 pm
by Sudden Sam
WTF are y’all talking about? I didn’t post anything about Trump.
I posted a segment of a letter that Homeland Security sent to Tony Gonzales in response to his request for numbers. That’s your boys’ answer to Gonzales.
Why bring Trump up?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:49 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:34 pm
WTF are y’all talking about? I didn’t post anything about Trump.
I posted a segment of a letter that Homeland Security sent to Tony Gonzales in response to his request for numbers. That’s your boys’ answer to Gonzales.
Why bring Trump up?
ButTrump is all they have.
Still waiting for an acceptable number of criminal illegals. Roux be fact checking and shit but hasn't suggested an appropriate number.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:49 pm
by Roux
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:34 pmI posted a segment of a letter that Homeland Security sent to Tony Gonzales in response to his request for numbers.
And I shared the Homeland Security response. From my link above:
In a statement, the Department of Homeland Security claimed the letter is being misinterpreted.
“The data in this letter is being misinterpreted. The data goes back decades; it includes individuals who entered the country over the past 40 years or more, the vast majority of whose custody determination was made long before this Administration. It also includes many who are under the jurisdiction or currently incarcerated by federal, state or local law enforcement partners.”
The letter from ICE also says: “We are removing and returning record numbers of migrants who are unable to establish a legal basis to remain in the United States, and prioritizing for removal those who present national security and public safety risks, and recent border crossers. From mid-May 2023 through the end of July 2024, DHS removed or returned more than 893,600 individuals including more than 138,300 individuals in family units. The majority of all individuals encountered at the Southwest Border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or expelled.”
Now to answer your question why trump, it is because Rep. Gonzales is trying to make it a campaign issue for trump.
Still waiting for a number. Let me know when you come up with one. Thanks.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:09 pm
by Roux
I gave you a number.
Now since you and trump are so concerned about immigration, would you please explain why trump opposed the bipartisan immigration bill?
trump literally made the problem worse. Why?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:11 pm
by FiatLux
Things Trumpers don't understand because they're brainwashed by a convicted felon.
Where is the extra $3.3 trillion in GDP which makes up close to 20% of the economy and an extra $1 trillion in federal tax revenue going to come from if we close the borders?
The rapist knows that fear-mongering works with the stupid people in the country.
Not that it matters since we "rigged" the election a couple of months ago. We had to save "the stupids" from themselves.
Rack us!
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:21 pm
by Sudden Sam
Roux wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:09 pm
Now since you and trump are so concerned about immigration, would you please explain why trump opposed the bipartisan immigration bill?
trump literally made the problem worse. Why?
For the hundredth time, that bill contained, if I remember correctly, $62 billion for Ukraine among a bunch of other garbage
And FL, you can’t support Harris and claim any intellectual superiority.
It's patently obvious you and all your lib amigos are for open borders.
You'd think differently if you lived remotely close to one.
There were over 400,000 when Trump left office in 2020. So he’s already responsible for 2/3 of what’s here now. Do you think he really cares?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:56 pm
by FiatLux
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:21 pm
And FL, you can’t support Harris and claim any intellectual superiority.
I laughed.
Oh yeah...
Good luck.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:27 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:52 pm
There were over 400,000 when Trump left office in 2020. So he’s already responsible for 2/3 of what’s here now. Do you think he really cares?
Does this mean you're okay with 400,000 as the benchmark? Is that your number?
Roux's in for a million, apparently.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:48 pm
by Roux
My point is that who sits in the Oval Office is a more important issue than immigration.
And in this instance, one of the candidates is absolutely unqualified and totally inappropriate for public office.
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:52 pm
There were over 400,000 when Trump left office in 2020. So he’s already responsible for 2/3 of what’s here now. Do you think he really cares?
Does this mean you're okay with 400,000 as the benchmark? Is that your number?
Roux's in for a million, apparently.
Did I say that? What’s your number?
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:11 pm
by The Seer
Roux wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:13 pm
And while you're thinking about that, can you please explain why trump opposed the bipartisan immigration bill, you know, since he is so concerned about the border and stuff?
Hate to be condescending but you're either obtuse or intentionally misleading. I've cited the flaws in that bill numerous times. Your disdain for this country is immeasurable. There's obviously NO CURE for your TDS. None.
Re: Illegals with criminal backgrounds
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:23 pm
by Sven Golly
Roux wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 8:48 pm
My point is that who sits in the Oval Office is a more important issue than immigration.
And in this instance, one of the candidates is absolutely unqualified and totally inappropriate for public office.
Exactly- and that person is missing a Y chromosome
Mikey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 7:52 pm
There were over 400,000 when Trump left office in 2020. So he’s already responsible for 2/3 of what’s here now. Do you think he really cares?
Does this mean you're okay with 400,000 as the benchmark? Is that your number?
Roux's in for a million, apparently.
Did I say that? What’s your number?
You seemed to apply some significance to 400,000. My fault for misinterpreting your intent. I should have known you were doing the ButTrump dance rather than engaging on the topic. It's all you, Roux, Screwy, Fiat, Bill, and Diego ever do.
