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https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukr ... index.html
Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.
This makes little sense to me. What is the plan? Why now? What happens next?

It seems to me that by providing weapons to Ukraine that can strike deeper into Russia (with precision), the U.S. is escalating the war. What is Russia going to do in response? If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

I'm certainly no fan of Russia, but I try to be fair. What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

This is dangerous business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flict.html
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It’s obvious what the idiot is doing. The Dems would rather plunge the entire world into a major war than cede power to Trump and allow him to bring about an end to the current Ukraine-Russia war.

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Maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. You don't get to launch a full scale invasion of another country and then cry about "escalation." Fuck off.
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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukr ... index.html
Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.
This makes little sense to me. What is the plan? Why now? What happens next?

It seems to me that by providing weapons to Ukraine that can strike deeper into Russia (with precision), the U.S. is escalating the war. What is Russia going to do in response? If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

I'm certainly no fan of Russia, but I try to be fair. What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

This is dangerous business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flict.html
Because Biden believes in standing up for democracies while you are an fascistic authoritarian pussy. Hope that helps.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pmBecause Biden believes in standing up for democracies while you are an fascistic authoritarian pussy. Hope that helps.
I'm pretty sure democracies are supposed to have elections. What do we call people who cancel elections and stay in power with no legal authority to do? Oh, yeah. That's right. We call those people authoritarian fascists. Holy shit, you're fucking stupid.
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In another world, Ukraine would have voted on Sunday. In a year where billions get the chance to cast a ballot, people here would have given their verdict on the presidency of Volodymyr Zelensky.

Five years ago, the man whose talents as an actor, comedian and producer had made him a household name in Ukraine was propelled into office. But with Russian forces still inside the country and millions of Ukrainians displaced from their homes, fighting on the frontlines, or living overseas, there is no election in sight.

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mvscal wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:00 pm Maybe Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine. You don't get to launch a full scale invasion of another country and then cry about "escalation." Fuck off.
Maybe they shouldn't have.

But the solution is not to have some lame duck senile president Obama's pals, Dem operatives, and RINO's pay off donation debts or screw the pooch for the incoming admin that could take out a lot of lives in both (or other) countries...
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You're making assumptions that don't hold any water, imo.
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Some people have already forgotten what happened a little over a couple of weeks ago.
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When Biden was asked why he decided to allow the missiles to be used, he replied "my butt's been wiped", and vanished into his favorite ice cream shop.
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Sven Golly wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:46 pm When Biden was asked why he decided to allow the missiles to be used, he replied "my butt's been wiped", and vanished into his favorite ice cream shop.
He vanished into the Amazon jungle this time looking for payback against those cannibal savages what ate his dear old uncle whatshisface. You know the thing.
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The timing seems strange to me. If Biden was serious about stopping Putin from marching across Eastern Europe, instead of sitting back and watching a war of attrition unfold, he should have done this two years ago. Assuming that Trump will get into office and immediately call the whole thing off, and let Putin have whatever's left of Ukraine, it seems like too little, way too late. Maybe Biden is trying to give Trump some leverage in case he does make an attempt at working something out. This would give him something to bargain with besides the bi-weekly blow jobs.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What is the plan?

Why now?

What happens next?

What is Russia going to do in response?

If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?
Because Biden believes in standing up for democracies while you are an fascistic authoritarian pussy. Hope that helps.
Not much. Care to answer any of the questions I actually asked?
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Screw_Michigan wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:05 pm Because Biden believes in standing up for democracies
That’s good, Screwy. You’re suggesting that the man who suppressed our freedom of speech defends democracy. The man who released billions to Iran so that a nation that wants to destroy us could carry on their quest to develop nuclear weapons is defending democracy? The guy who has encouraged millions of people to invade our country defends democracy?

You’re as full of shit as that treasonous POS.
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Biden suppressed your freedom of speech?
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Mikey wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:07 pm Biden suppressed your freedom of speech?
Yes. He damn sure did.

Did MSNBC not report that Biden told Zuckerberg and other social media sites to censor and block people who didn’t toe the administration line?
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I don’t know. I don’t watch MSNBC. Do you have a link? I thought you didn’t trust them anyway.

And anyway, how would that be YOUR freedom of speech?
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Mikey wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:12 pm I don’t know. I don’t watch MSNBC. Do you have a link? I thought you didn’t trust them anyway.

And anyway, how would that be YOUR freedom of speech?
I was threatened and twice removed from Facebook for posting FACTS (proven correct after the fact) for disputing the administration’s bullshit.

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https://www.reuters.com/technology/zuck ... 024-08-27/

88, sorry we’ve gotten off track. Your thread addresses an extremely important topic.
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S’all good, man. I wonder how many of Screwy’s friends and neighbors shipped out to Ukraine to support democracy? Do you think it is roughly equal to the number of his friends and neighbors who profited from sending other people’s kids to go die for his war?

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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

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Warmongers running the show getting things cranked up before Joe leaves.

Fucking Dems wanna blow up the planet.

Sounds so weird after growing up in the ‘70s!


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Roux wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:33 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

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You seem to be confused. What adversary of the U.S. did Russia give those weapons to for immediate use against us in a war we are presently waging against said adversary?

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Not confused. Merely sharing potential targets that Russia may want to hit.

If I was POTUS, I would rely upon the advice of the various subject matter experts. Of course, if i was POTUS, my appointments would be based upon the persons actually having subject matter expertise.
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Missing from that list is Baker, CA..

There's a giant missile there disguised as a huge thermometer....
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Mikey wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:38 pm The timing seems strange to me. If Biden was serious about stopping Putin from marching across Eastern Europe, instead of sitting back and watching a war of attrition unfold, he should have done this two years ago.
I'm guessing the timing is related to the introduction of North Korean troops and, yes, it should have been done two years ago. Of course, Pedo Joe's handlers are idiots.
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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 2:01 pm https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/ukr ... index.html
Outgoing US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use powerful long-range American weapons inside Russia, according to two US officials familiar with the decision.

The decision comes as thousands of North Korean troops deploy in support of Moscow’s war effort, sparking concern from Biden and his advisers that their entry could lead to a dangerous new phase in the war.

The Kremlin responded by saying that the move shows that the Biden administration wants to “throw oil on the fire” of the conflict, while Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky said that the “missiles will speak for themselves.”

Biden’s authorization came after one of Moscow’s largest aerial attacks on Ukraine in months. At least eight people have been killed after a Russian missile attack on the southern city of Odesa, officials said Monday. Meanwhile, Ukraine said Russia suffered its highest number of weekly losses last week.
This makes little sense to me. What is the plan? Why now? What happens next?

It seems to me that by providing weapons to Ukraine that can strike deeper into Russia (with precision), the U.S. is escalating the war. What is Russia going to do in response? If this was a good idea, why didn't it happen years ago?

I'm certainly no fan of Russia, but I try to be fair. What if during any of the many wars the U.S. was fighting in my lifetime, Russia (or some other country) provided long-range weapons to our adversary that could be used to strike targets in the U.S.? Do you think we'd shrug or go full fucking retard strength war on them?

This is dangerous business.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... flict.html
Their range is less than 200 miles. Hardly a long range, strategic weapon. Russia won't do a fucking thing about it except cry. They're already all in. They will probably have to push back some of their logistical support and it will make life more difficult for them, but that's about it.
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You mean that this isn’t nuclear war? 😱
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Not yet.
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mvscal wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:55 pm Their range is less than 200 miles. Hardly a long range, strategic weapon.
Practically a sling shot, eh?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/pr ... ystem.html

Do you own stock in Lockheed Martin, by chance?

Wonder who makes these non-discriminating killers?

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I thought the whole world was pretty much unified on the idea that land mines are inhumane.

What the fuck, Biden apologists?
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:05 am I thought the whole world was pretty much unified on the idea that land mines are inhumane.

What the fuck, Biden apologists?
The US never signed off on that nor should we. Pretty sure the Russians didn't either.
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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:28 am
mvscal wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:55 pm Their range is less than 200 miles. Hardly a long range, strategic weapon.
Practically a sling shot, eh?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/pr ... ystem.html
For all intents and purposes, yes. It's a TBM with a 500 pound warhead and a range of less than 200 miles. Calm the fuck down. Jesus fucking Christ.
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mvscal wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 am For all intents and purposes, yes. It's a TBM with a 500 pound warhead and a range of less than 200 miles. Calm the fuck down. Jesus fucking Christ.
I guess where they were launched from would factor into the target areas within 200 miles...Maybe Biden's handlers would be as nonchalant about those type projectiles being sent here return postage...
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The Seer wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:16 pm
mvscal wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:48 am For all intents and purposes, yes. It's a TBM with a 500 pound warhead and a range of less than 200 miles. Calm the fuck down. Jesus fucking Christ.
I guess where they were launched from would factor into the target areas within 200 miles...Maybe Biden's handlers would be as nonchalant about those type projectiles being sent here return postage...
It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.
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Mikey wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.
How many people have died in the war?

Last month, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing intelligence and undisclosed sources, reported a grim milestone: about one million Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded since the war began.

The majority of dead are soldiers on both sides, followed by Ukrainian civilians.

According to government figures, in the first half of 2024, three times as many people died in Ukraine as were born, the WSJ reported.


It's not good to see you & others support Joepotato & handlers that refused to have negotiations at the start of this clusterfuck but at least the Biden family and defense contractors got their millions....So there's that....
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The Seer wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:44 pm
Mikey wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.
How many people have died in the war?

Last month, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing intelligence and undisclosed sources, reported a grim milestone: about one million Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded since the war began.

The majority of dead are soldiers on both sides, followed by Ukrainian civilians.

According to government figures, in the first half of 2024, three times as many people died in Ukraine as were born, the WSJ reported.


It's not good to see you & others support Joepotato & handlers that refused to have negotiations at the start of this clusterfuck but at least the Biden family and defense contractors got their millions....So there's that....
Vladimir Putin illegally invaded a sovereign nation. What's there for the US to "negotiate?" Give him all or part of Ukraine (which isn't ours to give, BTW)? What will happen when he decides he wants Poland, or Finland? Negotiate? You're either a collaborator or incredibly naive.

Of those estimated million deaths, how many are "our" fault? Do you blame the Ukrainians for wanting to defend their homeland? Approximately how many of those million do you blame on Putin? Apparently none. Yes you are a true Trump asslicker.
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The Seer wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:44 pm
Mikey wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:51 pm It’s good to see someone here standing up for Vladimir Putin.
How many people have died in the war?

Last month, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing intelligence and undisclosed sources, reported a grim milestone: about one million Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded since the war began.

The majority of dead are soldiers on both sides, followed by Ukrainian civilians.

According to government figures, in the first half of 2024, three times as many people died in Ukraine as were born, the WSJ reported.


It's not good to see you & others support Joepotato & handlers that refused to have negotiations at the start of this clusterfuck but at least the Biden family and defense contractors got their millions....So there's that....
Citing the number of Russians killed is like including the suspect in the number of dead after a mass shooting...
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