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Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:32 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
The initial video images are horrifying. There appear to be a lot of structures in harm's way, and the winds are expected to increase. Hope everyone is safe. But it looks no bueno.

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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:39 pm
by Smackie Chan
My ex-wife's grandparents lived there. Pretty nice community when it's not ablaze.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:41 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
I've driven through that area when it wasn't on fire. Thought it was cool. Topanga Canyon is fubar, it seems.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:43 pm
by Diego in Seattle
High winds with humidity in the teens (relax, mvscal)....they're fucked.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/watch/

ETA: Winds are supposed to get worse tonight between 10pm & 5am.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 pm
by FiatLux
I guess it's warmer down there than up here.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:49 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
FiatLux wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 pm I guess it's warmer down there than up here.
Isn't it always warmer everywhere than Frisco?

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:50 pm
by Mikey
The coastal area around Santa Monica and Malibu seems to burn pretty frequently. Lots of expensive homes but you live with that danger. We haven't had a major fire here since 2017. I hope it stays that way.

Check out this website. You can monitor any fire in the western US with complete history from when it was first reported, evacuation orders, web cam pictures from mountain tops, etc. It's also an app with automatic alerts that everybody around here with any brains has on their phone.

https://app.watchduty.org/i/40335

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:54 pm
by FiatLux
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:49 pm
FiatLux wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 pm I guess it's warmer down there than up here.
Isn't it always warmer everywhere than Frisco?

Actually, Frisco is usually a lot warmer than Southern California in the summer. Probably colder in the winter.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:55 pm
by Mikey
FiatLux wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:54 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:49 pm
FiatLux wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 pm I guess it's warmer down there than up here.
Isn't it always warmer everywhere than Frisco?

Actually, Frisco is usually a lot warmer than Southern California in the summer. Probably colder in the winter.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're talking about Frisco, TX, right?

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:00 am
by FiatLux
Yeah.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:07 am
by Diego in Seattle
Clearly we need to do more logging in the Pacific Palisades area....

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:08 am
by Mikey
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:07 am Clearly we need to do more logging in the Pacific Palisades area....
It would be OK if they raked the forest more.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:45 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
Can we inject bleach into the fire? Asking before Diego gets to do it.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:56 am
by Wolfman
I fought a forest fire in NW WA when working as a surveyor for the USFS. scary stuff indeed. Pl.anes dropped borate slurry on the main fire.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:02 am
by Sudden Sam
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:45 am Can we inject bleach into the fire? Asking before Diego gets to do it.
:lol:

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:20 am
by Mikey
30,000 under evacuation apparently. I blame Biden’s border policies. Oh, and Newsom.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:27 am
by Diego in Seattle
The video is just nuts right now, and it's the wind is only going to get worse over the next four hours. A reporter was told by a firefighter that they're no longer fighting the fire due to those efforts having no effect. I've never seen anything like this.

Acreage has jumped in the last few hours from 1,200 to 2,900.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:45 am
by Softball Bat
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:27 am The video is just nuts right now, and it's the wind is only going to get worse over the next four hours. A reporter was told by a firefighter that they're no longer fighting the fire due to those efforts having no effect. I've never seen anything like this.

Acreage has jumped in the last few hours from 1,200 to 2,900.


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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:23 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
Remind me again how awesome it is to live in California. I already forgot.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:24 am
by Mikey
It sucks. Stay away.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:42 am
by Dr_Phibes
Fire is a wonderful and mysterious thing, Mikey - but shouldn't your people have had a sit down with the village elders on it's practical uses? Someone should come round and explain the dangers of fire, bubbling tar pits and poisonous plants.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:01 am
by FiatLux
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:27 am The video is just nuts right now, and it's the wind is only going to get worse over the next four hours. A reporter was told by a firefighter that they're no longer fighting the fire due to those efforts having no effect. I've never seen anything like this.

Acreage has jumped in the last few hours from 1,200 to 2,900.

Then you don't remember "The Tubbs Fire".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubbs_Fire


The Mother of all California fires.

I remember smelling smoke at around 10:30 pm. I thought there was a fire down the street. So I turned on the news to see if anything was being reported. On every channel they had the fire on. They were talking to the Fire Chief in Sonoma. He was saying the fire was burning the equivalent of a football field every 3 seconds. Let that sink in!

I guess the fire had started a half hour or hour earlier... and we were already smelling it in The City!

That was a bad ass motherfucker as far as homes destroyed and people dying.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:35 am
by FiatLux
Great. The Diablos are starting to kick in here in San Francisco Bay Area. Our version of slowcal's Santa Ana's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_wind


It's still 60 degrees in The City at 9:30 pm.

The winds are keeping it warm.



Honestly, I'm rooting for L.A. to burn down... and I don't care if you think I'm an asshole.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:13 am
by Mikey
Dr_Phibes wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:42 am Fire is a wonderful and mysterious thing, Mikey - but shouldn't your people have had a sit down with the village elders on it's practical uses? Someone should come round and explain the dangers of fire, bubbling tar pits and poisonous plants.
Oh, we have spoken with the elders. In fact we built a temple from which we regularly invoke mercy from the Gods the California Wildfire.

We are protected. Allegedly.


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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:26 am
by Dr_Phibes
Well don't stick your feet or hands in it. It may feel nice at first, but it's no different than eating too much delicious buffalo and then getting a tummyache.

Just my advice, hide in the cave next to the sacrificial rock.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:50 am
by Mikey
But seriously though. Like everyone else, we are trying to get out. We have wildfires. We have earthquakes. Huge waves sometimes. Stupid Democrat Mayors in all the major cities. A pretty boy Democrat Governor who spends our tax dollars on bullet trains to nowhere and paying illegal aliens to get drivers licenses and live in sanctuary cities are vote in the national elections. And there’s no money left over for stuff like stopping abortions and buying $75 Trump bibles for all the elementary school classrooms, which really need them.

Yes we are trying to get out but nobody will buy our house because insurance and gas and electricity and groceries are too expensive, and who would want to move to California anyway. Not only that but nobody wants us. In Texas and Florida and Tennessee , the most desirable places to live, people throw rocks at our car when they see our license plates. And we’re not quite desperate enough to consider Missouri. Or North Dakota.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:41 pm
by dan's college room mate
Here come those Santa Ana winds agaiiiiiiin


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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:28 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
Today's pictures are worse than yesterday's. Ugh.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:05 pm
by Mikey
With such high winds (80 to 100 mph gusts in the area) there’s not much they can do). They can’t fight it from the air. People can’t evacuate because the roads are too jammed. 400,000 without power. Nightmarish.

There’s another 2,000 acre fire burning out of control near Altadena.

Still no fires, yet, in San Diego County but my brother is law is about to have his power shut off preemptively for the second time in the past couple of months. Winds are howling here but nothing like 90 mph.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:18 pm
by The Seer
Mikey wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:50 am But seriously though. Like everyone else, we are trying to get out. We have wildfires. We have earthquakes. Huge waves sometimes. Stupid Democrat Mayors in all the major cities. A pretty boy Democrat Governor who spends our tax dollars on bullet trains to nowhere and paying illegal aliens to get drivers licenses and live in sanctuary cities are vote in the national elections. And there’s no money left over for stuff like stopping abortions and buying $75 Trump bibles for all the elementary school classrooms, which really need them.

Yes we are trying to get out but nobody will buy our house because insurance and gas and electricity and groceries are too expensive, and who would want to move to California anyway. Not only that but nobody wants us. In Texas and Florida and Tennessee , the most desirable places to live, people throw rocks at our car when they see our license plates. And we’re not quite desperate enough to consider Missouri. Or North Dakota.
Almost reached epiphany level.....

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:05 pm
by smackaholic
Haven't seen anything on the news about how these fires started.

Seems rather odd that multiple fires all pop up at once. Could be arson, maybe even a terrorist act.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:33 pm
by The Seer
Most of those multi-millionaires should be encouraged that FEMA could drop by in a month or two with a $750 check.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:38 pm
by Mikey
The Seer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:33 pm Most of those multi-millionaires should be encouraged that FEMA could drop by in a month or two with a $750 check.
Fake news

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:46 pm
by Mikey
smackaholic wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:05 pm Haven't seen anything on the news about how these fires started.

Seems rather odd that multiple fires all pop up at once. Could be arson, maybe even a terrorist act.
When the conditions are this dry and windy (no significant rainfall in SoCal since last winter) fires have been sparked by dumbasses doing yard work or a car with a hot muffler driving through dry grass. Once started they can grow explosively with the dry winds. I’m often surprised that there aren’t more of them. Especially when you consider all the tourists terrorists crossing the border every day.

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:50 pm
by Diego in Seattle
smackaholic wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:05 pm Haven't seen anything on the news about how these fires started.

Seems rather odd that multiple fires all pop up at once. Could be arson, maybe even a terrorist act.
That's because you're ignorant about all the ways that wildfires start. In this situation there has been extremely high winds, which tends to bring trees down. When trees go down they sometimes take power lines down with them. And that starts fires. See the 2018 Camp Fire, which destroyed the small town of Paradise (which is also the name of a Ron Howard documentary film about the fire).

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:24 pm
by Mikey
Our back yard a few minutes ago...

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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:42 pm
by The Seer

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:03 pm
by Mikey
Emergency response in MAGAtland.

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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:13 pm
by Diego in Seattle
The Seer wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:42 pm https://www.fs.usda.gov/about-agency/fe ... -the-ridge

Sorry, can't afford it.

Sin,

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The current fires are NOT on federal land.

And the current LAFD budget was reduced by $23M & was given to LAPD during a time of reduced crime.

Where were the conservatives with their rakes before this fire was ignited?

Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:17 pm
by FiatLux
smackaholic wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:05 pm Haven't seen anything on the news about how these fires started.


Probably, Southern California Edison.