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Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm
by Left Seater
Lots of Executive Orders on Day 1, which seems to be the new normal. Apparently so are blanket pardons even for those not yet convicted crimes. But of the EOs there were some hits and misses.

Hits:

Immigration- Ending the CBP One app usage for asylum appointments, remain in Mexico reinstated, declaring a National Emergency and declaring drug gangs terrorist organizations.

Paris Climate Accord - Withdrew completely. Until such time as China and India are held to the same standards as the other parties, we had no business being part of accord.

EV mandates - Removing these mandates is a win for consumers. We as citizens should have a choice regarding the vehicles we want to purchase. Now he needs to work to remove the EV tax credits. Without government support, the EV market is smaller and it can right size.

Return to work - Forcing non union employees back into the office should cause a good number of them to choose to leave. This is a win for citizen tax payers. There are plenty of stories out there where federal employees have said they will leave if forced to return to the office. Great. A smaller government is better for all of us.

Ending Federal DEI Policies - The way to fix something isn’t to just do the opposite.

Declaring there are two sexes / genders - Common sense that is long past due. The courts will help cement this as well. But when things like Title 9 specifically mention sex, you can’t redefine sex to be whatever you want it to be.



Misses:

Renaming the Gulf of Mexico - Seriously?

Renaming McKinley - Seriously?

Withdrawal from the WHO - I think we should have serious reduced our funding to levels other contemporary nations provide. In the last budget cycle we contributed 18% of the total WHO budget. This is by far the largest government contributor. We should have reduced out contribution down to 4% which would still make us the leading country in terms of donations.

Wathdrawl from the world taxing agreement - While I agree taxes should be reduced, this needed more time to negotiate. Many US companies aren’t on a level playing field with their international counterparts, but pulling out may lead to Europe charging additional taxes to US companies selling products overseas.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:47 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Tariffs against CAN & MEX start February 1st. Care to explain how that will help with inflation (especially eggs)?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:03 pm
by Carson
You keep talking about eggs, but you're more of a sperm lover.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:04 pm
by The Seer
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm
Misses:

Renaming the Gulf of Mexico - Seriously?

Renaming McKinley - Seriously?

Withdrawal from the WHO - I think we should have serious reduced our funding to levels other contemporary nations provide. In the last budget cycle we contributed 18% of the total WHO budget. This is by far the largest government contributor. We should have reduced out contribution down to 4% which would still make us the leading country in terms of donations.

Wathdrawl from the world taxing agreement - While I agree taxes should be reduced, this needed more time to negotiate. Many US companies aren’t on a level playing field with their international counterparts, but pulling out may lead to Europe charging additional taxes to US companies selling products overseas.

Tactics.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:07 pm
by Roux
The felon also increased costs for prescription drugs for millions of Americans.

We'll soon hear how that is the fault of the Democrats, of course.


And no, you fucking felon, you can't change the 14th Amendment with an Executive Order.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:26 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Separated at birth...

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Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:33 pm
by Mikey
What were the EV "mandates?"

Would that by any chance include Ellen Musk's dinners at Mar en Lago?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:07 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm Lots of Executive Orders on Day 1, which seems to be the new normal. Apparently so are blanket pardons even for those not yet convicted crimes. But of the EOs there were some hits and misses.


Misses:

Renaming the Gulf of Mexico - Seriously?

Renaming McKinley - Seriously?

Withdrawal from the WHO - I think we should have serious reduced our funding to levels other contemporary nations provide. In the last budget cycle we contributed 18% of the total WHO budget. This is by far the largest government contributor. We should have reduced out contribution down to 4% which would still make us the leading country in terms of donations.

Wathdrawl from the world taxing agreement - While I agree taxes should be reduced, this needed more time to negotiate. Many US companies aren’t on a level playing field with their international counterparts, but pulling out may lead to Europe charging additional taxes to US companies selling products overseas.
If any of this surprises you, you haven't been following very closely.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:08 pm
by Broken Record Troll®
Muuuhh Trump!!

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:14 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Broken Record Troll® wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:08 pm Muuuhh Trump!!
Was "Hypocrite Troll" already taken?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:18 pm
by Left Seater
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:33 pm What were the EV "mandates?"
The biggest was freezing any unspent funds from the $5 billion charging station. Lots of reports of this slush fund only producing 7 or 11 or 19 charging stations after multiple years.

He also pulled down Biden's 50% of all new cars sold by 2030 be electric goal.

Now he needs to work to eliminate the tax credit for new EVs.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:20 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:18 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:33 pm What were the EV "mandates?"
The biggest was freezing any unspent funds from the $5 billion charging station. Lots of reports of this slush fund only producing 7 or 11 or 19 charging stations after multiple years.

He also pulled down Biden's 50% of all new cars sold by 2030 be electric goal.

Now he needs to work to eliminate the tax credit for new EVs.
OK I see where you would object to those. But I don't see any of them as "mandates."

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:25 pm
by Left Seater
Valid, poor word choice.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:47 pm
by Mikey
The DOW is up about 1% today, NASDAQ up about 0.7%

TSLA is down about 1.7%. Ellen is a wonderful self-sacrificing saint of a person.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:58 pm
by Meat Head
Linda L. Fagan, toast. Coast Guard gets new boss... DEI -1

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Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:31 pm
by Mikey
GMC apparently has announced the renaming of their top line SUV to Yukon McKinley Ultimate. There will be no electric version coming.

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Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:44 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
Meat Head wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:58 pm Operation Fouled Anchor.
I looked it up. Who named this investigation? :lol: :lol:

Some serious Wi Tu Lo style trolling going on.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:49 pm
by Left Seater
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:20 pm
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:18 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:33 pm What were the EV "mandates?"
The biggest was freezing any unspent funds from the $5 billion charging station. Lots of reports of this slush fund only producing 7 or 11 or 19 charging stations after multiple years.
OK I see where you would object to those.
We should all object to $5 Billion for charging stations. Should the Feds also spend $5 Billion to offset the cost of building gas stations?

The rental car companies purchase and rapid off load of EVs should be a tell on where we are on EV adoption. Take away the tax breaks and all handouts for infrastructure and EVs look even worse to the majority of drivers.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:52 pm
by Left Seater
We should also add to the hits, the firing of the TSA chairman. TSA is and has been broken for sometime. See also the FAA.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm
by StrawMan
Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:49 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:20 pm
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:18 pm

The biggest was freezing any unspent funds from the $5 billion charging station. Lots of reports of this slush fund only producing 7 or 11 or 19 charging stations after multiple years.
OK I see where you would object to those.
We should all object to $5 Billion for charging stations. Should the Feds also spend $5 Billion to offset the cost of building gas stations?

The rental car companies purchase and rapid off load of EVs should be a tell on where we are on EV adoption. Take away the tax breaks and all handouts for infrastructure and EVs look even worse to the majority of drivers.
Wow. Even though I stated that I see why you would object, you still want to argue about it?

Ok, I'll go one round.

Should the Feds also spend an estimated $1 trillion per year subsidizing the fossil fuel industry?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:28 am
by Left Seater
So you don't object to the Feds spending your money to place charging stations?

Or better yet, you don't object to the Feds apparently wasting a ton of money?

And to answer your question, no I am not a fan of subsidies to oil companies. I would love to see our spending greatly reduced and this includes subsidies of all kinds. We should also simplify the tax code and remove offsets and deductions from both businesses and individuals which many add to subsidy totals. But our biggest issue is we have a spending problem and very few of our elected officials on either side want to deal with it.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:38 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
StrawMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??
From what I understand, the planet is 42 Billion times more inclusive, equitable, diverse, and sustainable. If the people signing executive orders for Biden had spent another $42B connecting nobody to the internet, we could have cooled this place down and roux wouldn't be hot tubbing in the snow right now!

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:41 am
by Mikey
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:38 am
StrawMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??
From what I understand, the planet is 42 Billion times more inclusive, equitable, diverse, and sustainable.
If that’s really the case then it may actually have been a pretty good deal. I have a feeling that you’re being sarcastic, though.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:33 am
by Diego in Seattle
StrawMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??
Any word on that "concept" of a health care paln?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:03 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
Broken Record Troll is on the clock.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:24 am
by Dr_Phibes
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm Renaming the Gulf of Mexico - Seriously?

Renaming McKinley - Seriously?

I like the McKinley thing, you can't have wokes running about cancelling every historical figure they disapprove of.

Not sure about the Gulf of Mexico. In my atlas, I cross out all the names with a sharpie and write 'Phibesland' but no one pays any attention.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:14 am
by Diego in Seattle

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:08 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Diego in Seattle wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:26 pm Separated at birth...

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Love how Melania is dressed like she's at a funeral for her mob boss husband's inauguration.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:10 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:07 pm If any of this surprises you, you haven't been following very closely.
A man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:45 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Screw_Michigan wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:08 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:26 pm Separated at birth...

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Love how Melania is dressed like she's at a funeral for her mob boss husband's inauguration.
While Melania despises her husband she's on the same page as President Felon on one issue....

It's important to enforce one's borders.

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Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:49 pm
by Mikey
:lol:

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:43 pm
by Roux
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm Renaming the Gulf of Mexico
And Mexico is renaming the U.S. as “América Mexicana”.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:12 pm
by Sudden Sam
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:45 pm
It's important to enforce one's borders.

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:lol:
Diego made a funny.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:23 pm
by mvscal
Roux wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:43 pm
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm Renaming the Gulf of Mexico
And Mexico is renaming the U.S. as “América Mexicana”.
Gulf of America works for me. It touches countries in North, South and Central America.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:35 pm
by Diego in Seattle
No they're not.

They're going to rename it Gulf De Pendejo....

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Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:53 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:23 pm
Roux wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:43 pm
Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:25 pm Renaming the Gulf of Mexico
And Mexico is renaming the U.S. as “América Mexicana”.
Gulf of America works for me. It touches countries in North, South and Central America.
I guess that would make you the Gulf of Underage Pudenda.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:54 pm
by Sudden Sam
Taliban refused Trump’s suggestion that they return our military equipment.

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:19 pm
by StrawMan
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:33 am
StrawMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??
Any word on that "concept" of a health care paln?
Let me know when you have anything of substance to add.

Was a sock puppet nic "Vapid Ankle Biter Troll" taken?

Re: Day 1 hits and misses

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:30 pm
by Diego in Seattle
StrawMan wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:19 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:33 am
StrawMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:14 pm Any word yet on reallocating or clawing back the $42B for "equitable internet access" that still hasn't hooked up a single customer??
Any word on that "concept" of a health care paln?
Let me know when you have anything of substance to add.
So Americans being able to get medical care/prescription medications w/o going into bankruptcy isn't something that FOTUS should be concerned about?