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Bace's thread got me thinking, which stats record is the most overrated.

To me the Home Run record went from most revered to most overrated in just a couple of years. To me the record is tainted with HGH, and Steroids.

I just won't believe that anybody that breaks the record from now on isn't on some kind of preformance enhancing drug.

That no-hitter thing. Who fucking cares.

Bonds' record for most walks in a season...he has great plate discipline but all of those intentional passes inflate the total.

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show me a guy who gets W's, because he pitches 8th and 9th, and i say OK



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Alkie wrote:Bace's thread got me thinking, which stats record is the most overrated.

To me the Home Run record went from most revered to most overrated in just a couple of years. To me the record is tainted with HGH, and Steroids.

I just won't believe that anybody that breaks the record from now on isn't on some kind of preformance enhancing drug.

Agreed. Not to mention the super baseballs they used in the homerun derby the other night. Do you think something similiar is going to be used in games to boost numbers now that roids are out?

The stolen base record. Lou Brock stole because he had to put himself in position to score on a basehit. Ricky Henderson ran when they were up by 5 runs. Stupid fucking record. Also, the 40-40 thing. Like Micky Mantle said after everyone was making a big deal out of Canseco doing it; "If I knew it was that important, I would have done it a few times."

Killian wrote:The stolen base record. Lou Brock stole because he had to put himself in position to score on a basehit. Ricky Henderson ran when they were up by 5 runs. Stupid fucking record. Also, the 40-40 thing. Like Micky Mantle said after everyone was making a big deal out of Canseco doing it; "If I knew it was that important, I would have done it a few times."

Stolen bases have become a lost art. I love seeing guys like Crawford, Podsednik and Pierre bat leadoff and find ways to get on base so they can steal their way into scoring position and then score on singles, groundball outs and sac flies. Teams don't utilize speed enough because it's all about the long ball. Get a guy on base and hope the big bats behind them can go yard. Station to station baseball isn't used enough.

Agree with the deadwing fan. Stealing bases and contact hitting, stringing together single for runs, these are a few of my favorite things.

Half the time a HR kills a rally, or a big scoring inning.

Shoalzie wrote: Stolen bases have become a lost art. I love seeing guys like Crawford, Podsednik and Pierre bat leadoff and find ways to get on base so they can steal their way into scoring position and then score on singles, groundball outs and sac flies. Teams don't utilize speed enough because it's all about the long ball. Get a guy on base and hope the big bats behind them can go yard. Station to station baseball isn't used enough.

I agree about sealing to score runs. That is a lost art. Ricky Henderson did to stolen bases what Barry Bonds is doing to Home Runs.

Killian wrote:
I agree about sealing to score runs. That is a lost art. Ricky Henderson did to stolen bases what Barry Bonds is doing to Home Runs.

Sealing - to lay oneself on the ground on their stomach and in a wiggle motion using their front arms to drag themselves to the next base.

Alkie wrote:

Killian wrote:
I agree about sealing to score runs. That is a lost art. Ricky Henderson did to stolen bases what Barry Bonds is doing to Home Runs.

Sealing - to lay oneself on the ground on their stomach and in a wiggle motion using their front arms to drag themselves to the next base.

Have you seen the Tigers run the bases the past few years?

Killian wrote:

Alkie wrote:

Killian wrote:
I agree about sealing to score runs. That is a lost art. Ricky Henderson did to stolen bases what Barry Bonds is doing to Home Runs.

Sealing - to lay oneself on the ground on their stomach and in a wiggle motion using their front arms to drag themselves to the next base.

Have you seen the Tigers run the bases the past few years?

Maybe this is how Bonds will have to propel himself around the bases so he can get the homerun record on those trashed out knees of his.

Alkie wrote:Agree with the deadwing fan. Stealing bases and contact hitting, stringing together single for runs, these are a few of my favorite things.

had me

Half the time a HR kills a rally, or a big scoring inning.

lost me. That's stupid as hell.

e wrote:Buck and Shannon

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e wrote:alkie's right, moot. Buck and Shannon used to say it all the time. the best way to kill a rally is to have someone hit a two-out homerun. the next guy flies out and the rally's over. just hope you scored enough before someone ended it. it's science. check it out.

Then Buck and Shannon are moron's too. It aint the two-run homer that kills the rally. It's the fly out.

Tex wrote:Then Buck and Shannon are moron's too.

Heresy. Hall of Fame plaque shoulda told ya.

Also, no apostrophe needed, moron.

Sorry 'bout the punctuation gaffe teach, but they still be mufukkin mOrons fo gone on make sthupid ass cumment lie dat, dig?

Shoalzie wrote:Stolen bases have become a lost art. I love seeing guys like Crawford, Podsednik and Pierre bat leadoff and find ways to get on base so they can steal their way into scoring position and then score on singles, groundball outs and sac flies. Teams don't utilize speed enough because it's all about the long ball. Get a guy on base and hope the big bats behind them can go yard. Station to station baseball isn't used enough.

Especially when your in an American League city.

I remember watching solid teams like Whitey Herzog's Cardinals of the mid-80's execute 'little ball' perfectly and they were entertaining to watch.