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She's already won her first two PubLinx matches. The first one with a clutch birdie putt on the 18th and the other one in a 6 to 5 blowout. She's 2 up with 4 to go in her 3rd.

Meanwhile, back in Augusta, Hootie is wondering what the hell is going on with this world.

I would be shocked if she won the whole thing.

I know that The Masters has generally invited the winning of this event, but Hootie doesn't have to correct?

MuchoBulls wrote:I would be shocked if she won the whole thing.

I know that The Masters has generally invited the winning of this event, but Hootie doesn't have to correct?

Right now Michelle is in the final 8. Three more match wins and she wins. At the worst it is a coin flip. But I'd say that her experience playing in front of big galleries has to be helping her against a field of unknowns who consider 20 people to be a big gallery. Winning 6 and 5 to start today didn't hurt either. Nothing like a can of whoop ass to peg the confidence meter.

As for Hootie, Augusta can invite whomever they choose. But they have invited past Pub Linx champs AND she earned her way to and through the tournament. Hootie is already on record as saying that "if" Wie were to win, that she would get an invite. But you know damn well that he never expected her to actualy get this close. I think he'll follow through. But you know he'll be gritting his teeth the whole time.

Hope she does win and goes to the Masters and proceeds to shoot 95 each day.

IndyFrisco wrote:Hope she does win and goes to the Masters and proceeds to shoot 95 each day.

Arnold Palmer is 75 and broke 90 at Augusta. I'm sure Wie could beat Palmer.

IndyFrisco wrote:Hope she does win and goes to the Masters and proceeds to shoot 95 each day.

Why?

War Wagon wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Hope she does win and goes to the Masters and proceeds to shoot 95 each day.

Why?

Cuz she's a woman playing in a league created for men. You don't see men trying to qualify for the LPGA events.

True, but the league that you speak of is driven by sponsor and advertising dollars.

Michelle Wie will draw in mucho dollars to the PGA, benefitting them all.

What's the problem?

Could it be that some bigoted punks just can't live with being bested by a girl?

Get over it.

DallasFanatic wrote:

War Wagon wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Hope she does win and goes to the Masters and proceeds to shoot 95 each day.

Why?

Cuz she's a woman playing in a league created for men. You don't see men trying to qualify for the LPGA events.

The league was also originaly created for caucasians only.

Times change. Deal with it.

War Wagon wrote:True, but the league that you speak of is driven by sponsor and advertising dollars.

Michelle Wie will draw in mucho dollars to the PGA, benefitting them all.

What's the problem?

Could it be that some bigoted punks just can't live with being bested by a girl?

Get over it.

If she qualifies to make PGA tournaments, then there is no issue. Obviously the sponsor exemption card has helped her play in the tournaments she has. Only Suzie Whaley really earned the right to play on the PGA Tour. Wie will benefit the PGA when she makes a cut and can make it to the weekend to be on TV.

I would rather see her dominate the LPGA (not an Annika fan), but that might not be as easy as it looks with the rising young talent coming in at this point (Creamer, Pressel, etc.).

i had hoped that Wie would win the Women's Open...i hope that she Wins the Publinx.

however, she SHOULD find a common ground to WIN in...s'up LPGA?

Winning the Publinx Qualifier in Pittstuckey does Not equal winning the Bologna Flap OPEN (presented by Massingil.)

18 holes vs. 54 (or 72)

she needs to Learn HOW to WIN BiG--->SOMEWHERE??????

Wie is GREAT!

let her play wherever...BUT, GRANT her the same LPGA exemption that will be given to Morgan Pressel.

Let Wie compete wherever her Dictator's deem appropriate...hopefully, she will NOT become a "burnt~out" afterthought.

(she's on that Road....if trying to make the PGA Tour too early).

Qbert wrote:let her play wherever...BUT, GRANT her the same LPGA exemption that will be given to Morgan Pressel.

I hope the LPGA doesn't cave in to Pressel. She can wait a year until she turns 18. One good weekend shouldn't be enough to give her an exemption. She will be a great player, but she can wait.

Q,

Wie has already played over 72 holes this week.

Of course it doesn't look like she's going to be playing many more if she doesn't turn her match around but quickly. She's down 4 after 6 holes as I type.

But hey, she'll have plenty of time to regret things not done when she's 40. For now, I say let her chase her dreams. And if a tournament director thinks she will boost their ticket sales....

Well that's a smart tournament director.

If all you saying "let her play" are cool with men playing on LPGA tour events, no argument from me. What I don't agree with is the double standard.

IndyFrisco wrote:If all you saying "let her play" are cool with men playing on LPGA tour events, no argument from me. What I don't agree with is the double standard.

What double standard? The PGA is a place for the best golfers in the world to play regardless of gender. The LPGA is a recognition of the fact that 99.9% of all women wouldn't be able to crack the top 100 in a Hooters Tour event. Michelle Wie just happens to be one of the rare execptions to that rule.

I just don't see what the problem is if Michelle Wie happens to be one of the elite 156 who get to tee it up in a PGA event. If you don't like it, go out and start your own tournament just for men. You can call it the Martha Burke Sucks Stale Bongwater Invitational (I wouldn't recomend using the word "Open"). I'm sure tens of fans will flock to your course.

BSmack wrote: I just don't see what the problem is if Michelle Wie happens to be one of the elite 156 who get to tee it up in a PGA event.

The problem is that she gets these exemptions to play on the PGA Tour when she has accomplished NOTHING to this point of her career. It's basically equivalent to a circus act. I can see the sponsors and PGA Tour's angle a higher audience, but when she isn't making cuts it benefits no one.

When she can begin to accomplish what Anna has done on the LPGA Tour (and I think she certainly will), then she should worry about playing on the PGA Tour.

MuchoBulls wrote:

BSmack wrote: I just don't see what the problem is if Michelle Wie happens to be one of the elite 156 who get to tee it up in a PGA event.

The problem is that she gets these exemptions to play on the PGA Tour when she has accomplished NOTHING to this point of her career. It's basically equivalent to a circus act. I can see the sponsors and PGA Tour's angle a higher audience, but when she isn't making cuts it benefits no one.

A couple of top 10s in LPGA majors is NOTHING?

There are at least 60 PGA pros who have been outscored by Wie in her 3 appearances. Would they call that NOTHING?

She is money for any sponsor of any tour event who can get her to play. That's just whe way it is.

When she can begin to accomplish what Anna has done on the LPGA Tour (and I think she certainly will), then she should worry about playing on the PGA Tour.

She doesn't necessarily have time to do both. I say let her do what she wants.

BTW: No decent male golfer would compete for the purses offered on the LPGA if they had even close to enough talent to compete on the PGA. LPGA purses are about 1/4 of what the PGA plays for. If you want to advance the argument that men should be able to play on the LPGA, then you need to address the issue of purse equity.

Like Mucho said, she’s a circus act.

Annika, unarguably the best female golfer in the world, played at the Colonial which is I believe THE shortest course on the PGA tour. It played 100% to her strengths, being her mid-irons to the green. She couldn’t even make the cut.

Put her, and any other chick, on a PGA course that can separate the men from the boys (let alone girls) like Pinehurst, Augusta, St. Andrews, Bethpaige Black, etc. and well, it’ll do just that. Put her in her place.

I have no problem with losing to a girl. I play with my wife’s sister all the time who plays for a Div 1-A school. She beats me probably 75% of the time. I play from the back tees and she plays from the men’s tees. Bring her to the back and I‘m probably beating her 50% of the time if not more. I could care less though. When I play, all I ever try to do is get back to as good as I was in high school and my first couple years of college. I could care less how I stack up against the rest of the world.

So, that’s why I say I was hoping she’d win and go to the Masters. She’d blow up there and hopefully that’d be the end of it.

Of course, she lost 5 and 4 today so the argument about the MAsters is now moot.

As for the purses, a Hooters Tour middle of the field player wouldn't complain about the purses when he's winning every week in the LPGA.

IndyFrisco wrote:Like Mucho said, she’s a circus act.

Annika, unarguably the best female golfer in the world, played at the Colonial which is I believe THE shortest course on the PGA tour. It played 100% to her strengths, being her mid-irons to the green. She couldn’t even make the cut.

Of course Annika's reasons for playing at Colonial were a lot different than Wie's. Wie wants to play against the best possible competition as often as possible. Annika wanted to measure herself against the best players and specificly identify areas in her game on which she would need to improve upon to further dominate the women's tour. Anybody who has seen Annika's physique change over the past 2 years can tell you that she is longer and stronger than she has ever been in her career.

Put her, and any other chick, on a PGA course that can separate the men from the boys (let alone girls) like Pinehurst, Augusta, St. Andrews, Bethpaige Black, etc. and well, it’ll do just that. Put her in her place.

Long is long. Wie averaged 277 off the tee at the John Deere Classic. That's what Mike Wier and Ben Curtis average.

But I suppose Augusta and Royal St. George's were too long for those guys.

I have no problem with losing to a girl. I play with my wife’s sister all the time who plays for a Div 1-A school. She beats me probably 75% of the time. I play from the back tees and she plays from the men’s tees. Bring her to the back and I‘m probably beating her 50% of the time if not more. I could care less though. When I play, all I ever try to do is get back to as good as I was in high school and my first couple years of college. I could care less how I stack up against the rest of the world.

So, that’s why I say I was hoping she’d win and go to the Masters. She’d blow up there and hopefully that’d be the end of it.

When Wie gets to the Masters she'll do just fine. I saw all I need to see this week when she launched a low cutter into the wind and stuck it pin high. That shot was beyond her grasp this January at the Sony. Now it's in her bag. This girl has skill like no other 15 year old has ever had.

BTW: A Hooters player might be OK with an LPGA purse, but a Nationwide player wouldn't. Especialy with the added bonous of battlefield promotions and the top 20 getting their cards at the end of the year.

BSmack wrote:
BTW: A Hooters player might be OK with an LPGA purse......

Paging Rushville....please pick up the courtesy phone

Felix wrote:

BSmack wrote:
BTW: A Hooters player might be OK with an LPGA purse......

Paging Rushville....please pick up the courtesy phone

I thought Rushville was a Buy.com guy. Ah hell, I can never keep these mini tours straight.

BSmack wrote:A couple of top 10s in LPGA majors is NOTHING?

There are at least 60 PGA pros who have been outscored by Wie in her 3 appearances. Would they call that NOTHING?

She is money for any sponsor of any tour event who can get her to play. That's just whe way it is.

Refresh my memory again of what he score was on Sunday of the U.S. Women's Open? I know all scores were poor that last day, but she wilted badly.

How is she money when she isn't around on the weekend of a PGA event, where crowds are larger at the event and for television? I'm sure she will make a cut eventually, but this crap is ridiculous giving her an exemption to play. Why not let other young women play as well, like Pressel, Creamer, etc. They have just as much game as Wie.

MuchoBulls wrote:

BSmack wrote:A couple of top 10s in LPGA majors is NOTHING?

There are at least 60 PGA pros who have been outscored by Wie in her 3 appearances. Would they call that NOTHING?

She is money for any sponsor of any tour event who can get her to play. That's just whe way it is.

Refresh my memory again of what he score was on Sunday of the U.S. Women's Open? I know all scores were poor that last day, but she wilted badly.

Yea, she had a bad day. Wanna judge all golfers by their worst day? I guess that means Tiger is a hack for posting an 80 at Muirfield. :roll:

How is she money when she isn't around on the weekend of a PGA event, where crowds are larger at the event and for television? I'm sure she will make a cut eventually, but this crap is ridiculous giving her an exemption to play. Why not let other young women play as well, like Pressel, Creamer, etc. They have just as much game as Wie.

For starters, smaller tournements are begging for crowds on Thursday and Friday. Wie is guaranteed to draw on those two days, thereby creating interest in other players by default. Also, sales of corporate tents skyrocketed at the John Deere after Wie announced she was comming. That's not exactly chicken feed for a small tournament like the Deere.

As for Creamer, I saw her play and Lorena Ochoa outdrove her by 20 yards a hole. No way she could play longer layouts like Wie has until she bulks up. I've never seen Pressel up close, but I suspect the same is true for her as well.