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What player needs to step up for your team this season?

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:00 am
by Guest
Offense and defense. The guy that needs to emerge or reemerge in order for your team to have a chance this year.

Since it's my thread I'll start. 8)

Offense - Ashley Lelie WR - Has flashed playmaking ability since being picked in the first round a few seasons back but hasn't exactly been a consistent blocker and at times his hands have been suspect. He has reported to camp noticably bulked up and with Rod Smith not getting any younger is primed for a breakout year IMO.

Defense - Trevor Pryce DL - Dude is coming off surgery and to put it mildly the pass rush was nonexistent when he was gone last season. The Broncos made noise about trading him this offseason but he restructured and remains with his rightful team. IMO we are set at linebacker and in the secondary but if the QB has 10 seconds to throw back there even Kerry Collins can find an open receiver. Courtney Brown got hurt once again and is looking to miss a lot of time making the return to health of Pryce even more important.

Thoughts?

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:59 am
by rozy
This is easy. Very easy. Easiest question we have ever seen.

Sin,
Jabar Gaffney and Antwaan Peek

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:52 am
by poptart
I could very easily list 4 or 5 guys on each side of the ball, but I'll play along and put up just one name.


Offense: LaMont Jordan

Oakland invested a lot in him, and he is as yet unproven as a "carry-the-load" runner. He gives every indication that he's gonna be up to the task. The Raiders were simply AWFUL running the ball last year. They had no true feature back and their o-line was nowhere near in place. I look for big things from both Jordan and the o-line this season. Gallery and Grove are young, strong, talented and MEAN, and I can see Oakland running straight AT teams a lot this year. Physical beatdowns to set up Moss to the post. LOVIN' EVERY MINUTE OF IT.


Defense: Warren Sapp

Son of Buddy dicked around with the defense like a complete fool last year, and one of his major blunders was playing fat Sapp out of position. Warren had a poor year. His best years are in the rearview mirror, IMO, but he's got to be a factor in the middle of the Raider defense this year in order for the other pieces to also do their thing. He's got pride and I look for him to rebound with a solid campaign in '05.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:18 am
by Shoalzie
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:40 am
by jiminphilly
Offense- Shawn Andrews G- missed the entire 2004 season with a broken leg. He may very well have been rookie of the year based on how he just pulverised anyone in his path.

He is penciled in as a starter and the Super Bowl is won in the trenches and this guy needs to solidy that line since they let Mayberry go.


Defense- Jerimiah Trotter MLB- when he was inserted as the starter mid way into the season, teams stopped running against the Eagles. He's still under 30, looks recovered from that knee injury and with a better D Line he could have a pro-bowl season.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:36 am
by Headhunter
Offense. Julius Jones. If the young man can continue his progress from last year, and become a dominant running back it will take a ton of heat off of Bledsoe. He also needs to establish his pass protection. The cowboys recieving corps, including TE Jason Whitten, are a solid group. Outside of Whitten, there will be no Pro Bowlers here, but they are well above average. If Bledsoe is feeling the heat they'll look like a bunch of chumps. A solid running game is a MUST if the Boys are to have a modicum of success this year.

Defense Izell Reese/Keith Davis. Whoever wins the starting safety spot has got to step up. Specifically on pass coverage. Roy Williams is not a coverage guy. He's best when playing up around the line. One of these guys has to step up. The Cowboys Corners should be close to lock down mode with the addition of Anthony Henry, and Terrence Newman seemingly having a great camp and getting over the Sophmore jinx, and the addition of Aaron Glen. If the secondary plays as expected or better, you can count on this unit being at or near the top of the league. The loss of Darren Woodson, IMO, is the single largest reason this unit went from #1 2 years ago, to 16 last year. If one of these guys steps up as a solid replacement, you'll see them round back up to that elite status.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:41 pm
by Cicero
Bucs

DT - Booger McFarland. He was drafted in the 1st Round 4 years ago and he has yet to put a full season together. he has all the tools in the world and is awesome when healthy, but I have yet seen him take over games like Sapp used to. I hope he can stay healthy so he can clog up the middle and let our LBs run wild.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:00 pm
by PSUFAN
Max Starks - huge guard needs to step up and compliment Faneca and Hartings. Last year, the Steelers were great up front. Time for new blood to come of age.

Russ Grimm is the best OL coach in the NFL.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:27 pm
by Cosmo Kramer
Packers-

O-Line

D- Al Harris, prove why the Pack signed him and let Mike McKenzie go!

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:48 pm
by DrDetroit
Offense - Joey Harrington, of course

Defense - Boss Bailey & Shaun Rodgers
Rodgers is developing into an elite D-line player and needs that extra push to get into that group. Bailey's coming off of a major injury and needs to step up as the LB anchor.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:51 pm
by Bucmonkey
I concur with Cicero about Booger, but I believe the front 4 as a whole must step it up, especially againt the run.

The same concern on the otherside of the ball too, the O line must absolutely run block much better. Very unsure if that will happen though with the folks they have in camp.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:58 pm
by atomicdad
I agree with both calls MV. I would also add Sammie Davis, Terrence Kiel and Jerry Wilson in the secondary.

Offensively, while it is not a matter of stepping up, but Drew Brees can't go backwards. Hopefully last year was not his "career" year.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:45 pm
by jiminphilly
poptart wrote:I could very easily list 4 or 5 guys on each side of the ball, but I'll play along and put up just one name.


Offense: LaMont Jordan

Oakland invested a lot in him, and he is as yet unproven as a "carry-the-load" runner. He gives every indication that he's gonna be up to the task. The Raiders were simply AWFUL running the ball last year. They had no true feature back and their o-line was nowhere near in place. I look for big things from both Jordan and the o-line this season. Gallery and Grove are young, strong, talented and MEAN, and I can see Oakland running straight AT teams a lot this year. Physical beatdowns to set up Moss to the post. LOVIN' EVERY MINUTE OF IT.


Defense: Warren Sapp

Son of Buddy dicked around with the defense like a complete fool last year, and one of his major blunders was playing fat Sapp out of position. Warren had a poor year. His best years are in the rearview mirror, IMO, but he's got to be a factor in the middle of the Raider defense this year in order for the other pieces to also do their thing. He's got pride and I look for him to rebound with a solid campaign in '05.
I think the bigger concern you have on the DLine is Burgess, not Sapp.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:51 pm
by Raydah James
jiminphilly wrote:
I think the bigger concern you have on the DLine is Burgess, not Sapp.
As if your fucking stupidity levels couldnt get any higher, you submit this.


Goddamn you're a fucking idiot.....


Tell you what jim, worry about what your own shitbag chokejob of a squad is doing, and shut the fuck up concerning the silver and black.

Dumb Bitch.


While I agree with pop, i'll go in another direction here:

Offense: Kerry Collins. Collins had a tough time adjusting to the new playbook and scheme early last season, but came on strong late after it all clicked. The late season Kerry needs to show up this entire season. He needs to regain his super bowl year form for us to have a legitimate shot at taking it all. It doesnt matter how well Jordan runs-if Kerry falters badly, we are fucked.

Defense: Whomever is lined up opposite of the now fully healthy CWood. Whether its Hill, Aso, Routt, or Washington, they need to be fucking ready to make the correct reads and know when to go for the int, swat down, or sure tackle because they will be getting picked on for a significant portion of the game on passing downs. Too many times we saw PBuch fuck the D over by being a dumbshit and going for the int and getting burned badly over and over again. Whoever mans that island MUST use thier fucking head to make the correct snap decision.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:59 pm
by poptart
Good calls, Jimmah.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:00 pm
by Bizzarofelice
Offense:
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Defense:
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Special Teams:
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Cheerleader Routines:
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:06 pm
by jiminphilly
Raydah James wrote: Tell you what jim, worry about what your own shitbag chokejob of a squad is doing, and shut the fuck up concerning the silver and black.
I don't believe losing the SB to the odds on favorite is considered choking.


It doesnt matter how well Jordan runs-if Kerry falters badly, we are fucked.
Won't take much then.

As for the original post- your saying an established run stopper in sapp is more of a concern then an injury prone player in burgess who's eating a lot of your cap for a player who's claim to fame is that he sacked Vick in the playoffs?

Jackass.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:11 pm
by ChargerMike
I'm not too concerned with the Defense, it looks to be rounding into a formidable group. With the tougher schedule this year I'll be very happy if they finish anywhere close to last year ranking.

The offense was a pleasant surprise last year, and I look for another solid year.

Leaving the special teams....If the special teams can kick it up a notch and win 2-3 games I'm thinking we go a step further in the playoffs.

Nate Kaeding...has been stellar so far in camp. Last years shank vs. the Jets was a bitter pill for all of us. Kaeding took it hard, but is definitely a tough kid and a winner.

Little Darren Sproules could "go all the way" more than once, which would be a huge boost.

Mike Scifres is a hell of punter and with a year under his belt should be among the league leaders.

My choice to step it up and make a difference..."The special teams"

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:14 pm
by Raydah James
jiminphilly wrote:
Raydah James wrote: Tell you what jim, worry about what your own shitbag chokejob of a squad is doing, and shut the fuck up concerning the silver and black.
I don't believe losing the SB to the odds on favorite is considered choking.


It doesnt matter how well Jordan runs-if Kerry falters badly, we are fucked.
Won't take much then.

As for the original post- your saying an established run stopper in sapp is more of a concern then an injury prone player in burgess who's eating a lot of your cap for a player who's claim to fame is that he sacked Vick in the playoffs?

Jackass.
You didnt watch Raider football last season if you think Burgess is someone to include on this list. In fact, you dont watch much fucking football period if you think that.

I'd put Son of fucking buddy on there before i'd throw burgess on it. His fucking scheme will make or break our defense before burgess ever will. Yes, the way burgess performs will make a difference-NO, he doesnt belong within a mile of this list.


Fucking philly faggot ass pussy.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:23 pm
by poptart
Oakland can "do" without Burgess playing well more-so than they can without Sapp playing well, IMO.

Sapp holding his own (and then some) in the middle will do a LOT to help others around him.

Sapp is paid pretty handsomely too, jimphilly.

Bro' James is right on about whoever is playing the "other" corner for Oakland needing to step it up.

This is also more important than Burgess, IMO.

Burgess kicking ass would be "gravy" ....... so to speak.

Expensive gravy, but you know what I mean.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:30 pm
by jiminphilly
Raydah James wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:
Raydah James wrote: Tell you what jim, worry about what your own shitbag chokejob of a squad is doing, and shut the fuck up concerning the silver and black.
I don't believe losing the SB to the odds on favorite is considered choking.


It doesnt matter how well Jordan runs-if Kerry falters badly, we are fucked.
Won't take much then.

As for the original post- your saying an established run stopper in sapp is more of a concern then an injury prone player in burgess who's eating a lot of your cap for a player who's claim to fame is that he sacked Vick in the playoffs?

Jackass.
You didnt watch Raider football last season if you think Burgess is someone to include on this list. In fact, you dont watch much fucking football period if you think that.

I'd put Son of fucking buddy on there before i'd throw burgess on it. His fucking scheme will make or break our defense before burgess ever will. Yes, the way burgess performs will make a difference-NO, he doesnt belong within a mile of this list.


Fucking philly faggot ass pussy.

Wipe the man goo from your eyes, James and actually read what I posted. All I said was Burgess was a bigger concern then Sapp.

That's it. I don't care what fuckin scheme you run, Burgess is an unproven, injury prone DE who is getting paid a lot of money considering his history.

Nice cap management. :roll:

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:52 pm
by Raydah James
[quote="jiminphilly"][/quote]

Hey you DNA rope chugging dildostuff-instead of showing how the Raiders are in deep inside your jizztarget, why dont you throw a decent breakdown of your pissbag team instead of a few lame sentences that show your football ignorance you tapiocca drenched assbead.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:01 pm
by Cicero
Jezus. Every fucking thread turns into a Oak/KC/SD menage.

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:06 pm
by poptart
Cicero wrote:Jezus. Every fucking thread turns into a Oak/KC/SD menage.
Yeah..........

And only because Dungver has a pussy fan-base.


:wink:

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:12 pm
by ChargerMike
mvscal wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:I'm not too concerned with the Defense, it looks to be rounding into a formidable group.
Except for the secondary...

Not a good division to be in with question marks in that department.

23 picks in 2004 is nothing to sneeze at. I'd be happy with that number in 05.

Compare that to the Raiduhs total of 9 (lol) now that's a number to be very concerned about.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:09 am
by Shoalzie
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
Shoalzie wrote:Image
One can NEVER accuse Shoalzie of mincing words.... :lol:

If you ask any good LionFan...he's the only answer to that question.

Pats

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:40 am
by patriotsrule
Ok on Offence I have to go with the O line.they need to protect Brady and open holes for Dillon. With out them Brady is toast and the season is ended early.

On defence I have to go with Vince Wilfork. With the loss Of the two Tedys He is going to have to stuff the middle or we could have a long year against the run.
Another key is how well the back ups fair. We need depth at QB and RB to be succuessful.
Peace out Patriots Rule

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:41 pm
by DallasFanatic
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:You mean the "Super Bowl form" Carrie had when SHE tossed five passes to the OTHER TEAM? :lol:

Have another shot of scotch, Carrie.
Hey Dipshit,

When was the last time you had a quarterback lead your sorry ass squad to the Big Dance? Yeah thats what I thought. Now STFU

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:48 pm
by Guest
poptart wrote:I could very easily list 4 or 5 guys on each side of the ball, but I'll play along and put up just one name.


Offense: LaMont Jordan

Oakland invested a lot in him, and he is as yet unproven as a "carry-the-load" runner. He gives every indication that he's gonna be up to the task. The Raiders were simply AWFUL running the ball last year. They had no true feature back and their o-line was nowhere near in place. I look for big things from both Jordan and the o-line this season. Gallery and Grove are young, strong, talented and MEAN, and I can see Oakland running straight AT teams a lot this year. Physical beatdowns to set up Moss to the post. LOVIN' EVERY MINUTE OF IT.


Defense: Warren Sapp

Son of Buddy dicked around with the defense like a complete fool last year, and one of his major blunders was playing fat Sapp out of position. Warren had a poor year. His best years are in the rearview mirror, IMO, but he's got to be a factor in the middle of the Raider defense this year in order for the other pieces to also do their thing. He's got pride and I look for him to rebound with a solid campaign in '05.
Huh

This like the 4th time I've noticed something that this guy posted was actually pretty intelligent.

Perhaps I've made a mistake lumping all Faiderfans into the James category of tardness

Nah

:wink:

BTW you are dead on with your summary on Jordan. On thing Norv knows (when he is not bring coffee to his master Al) is how to run a workhorse back into the ground and I think you got your man.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:57 pm
by Guest
jiminphilly wrote:
Raydah James wrote: Tell you what jim, worry about what your own shitbag chokejob of a squad is doing, and shut the fuck up concerning the silver and black.
I don't believe losing the SB to the odds on favorite is considered choking.


It doesnt matter how well Jordan runs-if Kerry falters badly, we are fucked.
Won't take much then.

As for the original post- your saying an established run stopper in sapp is more of a concern then an injury prone player in burgess who's eating a lot of your cap for a player who's claim to fame is that he sacked Vick in the playoffs?

Jackass.
Rack Jim

James do you even watch the Faider games or do you wait until the commentators tell you what to think? Your shit talking is beyond ignorant and with each of your posts the collective IQ of the entire board drops a bit.

STFU and pay attention.

Now here in Socal we are bombarded with Faider games every Sunday in some sort of futile attempt to keep the Mexicans in line for at least one day out of the week. As a result I am stuck watching a lot of Faiders games.

Anybody who knows shit about that team can see that the lack of pass rush is killing the defense on 3rd down.

But not you right?

:roll:

If Burgess can put up even adequate sack numbers your entire D is likely to change. But then again considering that Alice threw ungodly $ at a player who has had a handfull of productive games in his career it's not likely to happen.

In Philly Burgess had Kearse and Simon to take most of the attention off him and he was an average player at best, now he has nobody of the sort in Chokeland.

What a fucking reach of a signing.

Leave it to a fan of adivision rival to know more about James' team than James herself.

You are a fucking idiot.

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:59 pm
by Cosmo Kramer
DallasFanatic wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:You mean the "Super Bowl form" Carrie had when SHE tossed five passes to the OTHER TEAM? :lol:

Have another shot of scotch, Carrie.
Hey Dipshit,

When was the last time you had a quarterback lead your sorry ass squad to the Big Dance? Yeah thats what I thought. Now STFU

Racks to that!

I'm waitin for KCPaula Walker Lindh to answer that question. TOOL!

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:57 am
by Bizzarofelice
Cicero wrote:Jezus. Every fucking thread turns into a Oak/KC/SD menage.
Yeah, I miss smackboard too.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:11 am
by KUTTER
I'm totally fucked up right now, so I'll stick to the obvious answers...


OFFENSE

Kyle Boller. With Mason, Heap, Clayton, and Lewis he finally has some talent to play with. Barring injuries to these guys or the line, he has no more time for excuses.


DEFENSE

Ray Lewis. Rex Ryan has changed the defensive scheme in order to free Ray up to make plays like he did in 2000-01. If he can't go like he used to, it might be time to think about another MLB.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:58 am
by peter dragon
Bengals:

OFFENSE:
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Carson Palmer, he came on strong late in the season before getting hurt, and with a very
experienced WR corps and Rudi in the backfield, he is the last thing the O needs to take this team
to the next level.


DEFENSE:
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this could easily go to any number of DL like JSmith but I'm sticking
with the play of the DT's specifically JThorton. he was brought into Cinci
as a good charachater guy that helped bring the Titans to the SB, but he
has been proven to be too small in the middle when playing the likes of
the power football teams like PITT and Baltimore. and since we advoided
the DT's in the draft like a fucking plague and drafted a DE and a LB both
of which will play LB, DT is the biggest glaring need. plus we need Pollack
to sign his fucking contract and get in camp.

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:16 pm
by KUTTER
I think Palmer is already there. What the Bengals need is for the o-line to keep his ass vertical and in one piece, and to open holes for Rudi. The rest of the offense is top-notch.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:16 am
by poptart
Collins passed for 3600 yds that year, ....... 22 tds and 13 picks.

Pretty solid stuff.


Receivers:

Ike Hilliard...?

Amani Toomer....?


Solid, but definitely not "great" targets, Paul.



Kerry more than held up his end of the bargain.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:21 am
by Adelpiero
buccs



offense:

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:07 am
by War Wagon
Cosmo Kramer wrote: I'm waitin for KCPaula Walker Lindh to answer that question. TOOL!
Who let Kaley in here?

Actually, that would be an insult to KCK, who at least had a modicum of game to back up his shit.

You, CK, suck, and suck badly... in another long line of trolls who fail miserably at bringing anything of substance.

Shit, you could be Kaley afterall, now that I reflect upon your style.

Regardless, the best thing you can do is simply off yourself from this Board before you get hurt.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:30 pm
by Cicero
Adelpiero wrote:buccs



offense:

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wtf?? Him and Clayton were the only ones that did step last season. He is the last guy I am worrying about.

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:58 pm
by Felix
For the Broncos, there are two........

Bailey and Plummer-it's time for both to step up as leaders and earn their money......