A Good Start

[tough love]

Props to Blair, and WE need to take note.
There is no way that anyone who partakes in the Jihad_Hate should ever be allowed the right to live anywhere near us.

And Fuck their freedom of ease, to murder us.
We needs to rid ourselves of this death wish, The Sooner The Better.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... rnational/

London — Prime Minister Tony Blair announced new deportation measures on Friday against people who foster hatred and advocate violence.

[DrDetroit]

Fuck Tony Blair.

Sin,
ACLU

[Left Seater]

Sad but how true. I would also expect to hear them encouraging every citizen to start fostering hate and advocating violence just to drive officials crazy.

[tough love]

I'm not getting the overall apathy towards jihad, at all.
With it, OBL is bringing his war to our back yards.
He has brought his training camps of hate and our death to our cities, and we stand around like lambs waiting to be slaughtered while we discuss the rights and freedoms of those who want us destroyed.

What good is being so open minded that the brain falls out?

I'm thinking that Capitalism is now in a very dangerous state of denial.

WAKE UP PEOPLE...OUR ENEMY IS REAL AND THEY ARE BEING ALLOWED TO GROW STRONGER AMOUNG US.

Ignoring them will not make them go away.

RACK BLAIR, and (at the least) the rest of the G8 countries need to get on that stick, right quick.
Together we stand, devided we fall.
These jihad fucs are just in training as of now. DO NOT give them the chance to act out on their masters intent.

Have a nice day.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

What's all this "us" business, Tina?
Did you move recently?

[Dr_Phibes]

Quite why the tourists would wish to blow up Manitoba is beyond me.

However, should they wish to do mankind such a favour, who am I to stop them?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

What have thing terror war Bu$h Corp truth of freedom stopped us lately insanity?

[tough love]

ha ha.

I rightfully view OBL's War on Capitalism as a war against us all.
I may not agree with the way of greed, but it's still better than what these freaks are showing.

I am convinced that many under_estimate the ability of OBL to carry out his threat to our imperfect way of life.
Arrogance affords the enemy to make camp in our back yards, while pride argues the merits of what this REAL enemy will render useless if it be allowed to continue it's intent unhindered.

This blight needs to be nipped in the bud Now.
Deport Jihad Hate.

RACK Blair.

[fix]

You've got your wish tl,

Effective Monday morning, they're going to start inspecting all vehicles entering the parking or shipping areas beneath the major bank towers here in Toronto.

That in itself should round up a few of the enemy.
Now if only they ship them all out to a nice place like Flin Flon or Gillam, it'd be a win win situation for all of Canada.

[tough love]

Even though Flin Flon could use help mining it's maryjane operation, jihad is not something that should be made smoke of.

TOLERATING JIHAD IS PURE SUICIDE.

My wish is for that murder machine to not exist.
Checking a few cars in TO does what for my wish???

Next time check out the Make A Wish Foundation before you build up a guys hope, will'yah. :wink:

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Even though Flin Flon could use help mining it's maryjane operation, jihad is not something that should be made smoke of.

TOLERATING JIHAD IS PURE SUICIDE.

My wish is for that murder machine to not exist.
Checking a few cars in TO does what for my wish???

Next time check out the Make A Wish Foundation before you build up a guys hope, will'yah. :wink:

Seriously though, you're in freak'n Manitoba.
You're about as far away from any possible jihad target that you should almost hope for one to happen. At least that way, people will start to think about moving there instead of moving out of there...

[tough love]

^
Seriously though, that was your dumbest post ever.

Why and how does my being miles away from what you precieve to be targets exclude me from making comment on what I precieve to be a gross stupidity?
When anyone dies by the hands of these misfits, being human affords me the right to be sad, and still having a freakin brain tells me that we are heading for the same shit that hit Britain if we let Jihad be.

Mark these words ->We must deal with those freaks before they deal with us.

RACK Blair.


Recently caught a reality show on home prices across Canada.
A simple two bedroom bungalow in Van only costs 500k.

RACK MANITOBA
No killer smog...affordable housing...24/7 (low cost) electricity...low cost auto_pac...low taxes...me.



Anywho; who say's we want more upitty's moving here. :wink:

[fix]

^
Seriously though, that was your dumbest post ever.

Why and how does my being miles away from what you precieve to be targets exclude me from making comment on what I precieve to be a gross stupidity?
When anyone dies by the hands of these misfits, being human affords me the right to be sad, and still having a freakin brain tells me that we are heading for the same shit that hit Britain if we let Jihad be.

Mark these words ->We must deal with those freaks before they deal with us.

RACK Blair.


Recently caught a reality show on home prices across Canada.
A simple two bedroom bungalow in Van only costs 500k.

RACK MANITOBA
No killer smog...affordable housing...24/7 (low cost) electricity...low cost auto_pac...low taxes...me.



Anywho; who say's we want more upitty's moving here. :wink:

So we just round up anyone who looks or sounds like they might partake in Jihad and ship them out?
Nice bit of paranoia there J.F Hooverlove.

What do you propose we do with Canadian citizens who were born and raised here that aren't conforming to the religious beliefs? Round them up and ship them to gulags that could be built in Inuvik?

[Mister Bushice]

If we don't start putting pressure on Muslim leaders to out their terrorists and take part in the war against terror beyond a mere fatwa then later on after they manage to set off a bomb somewhere here it will get very ugly for all muslims in America and they will only have themselves to blame for not doing more than spout words.

We need to take the road britain is taking, upping security here, employing cameras in public places to monitor. Hell if Britain hadn't done that they would not have caught those fools.

[tough love]

Otis, do you know what Jihad is about?

I'm saying that we need to stop those who preach hate towards us, and their brainwashed followers who believe it's their muslim duty to kill us.

This is what needs to be NEVER tolerated.

Blair see's the danger of jihad for what it is, and is trying to do something about it.

As for where some of these programed killers were born is irrelevant once they be screwed up enough to slaughter our folks for jihad.
It's a governments duty to protect it's citizens from harm.
Muslims who practice jihad hate us, will harm us, and need to be stopped before they do.

Mr B is bang on about it getting ugly for all muslims once eqwar starts their killing shit here.
The thing that freaks me is that eqwar knows this, and will play it when they feel the time is right.
It is ludicrous to ignore the deadly seriousness of jihad, and retarded to allow eqwar to play their time table.
The West best dummy up right quick cuz as long as we maintain this complacency, these deadly freaks are multiplying on our turf at an alarming rate.

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Otis, do you know what Jihad is about?

I'm saying that we need to stop those who preach hate towards us, and their brainwashed followers who believe it's their muslim duty to kill us.

This is what needs to be NEVER tolerated.

Blair see's the danger of jihad for what it is, and is trying to do something about it.

As for where some of these programed killers were born is irrelevant once they be screwed up enough to slaughter our folks for jihad.
It's a governments duty to protect it's citizens from harm.
Muslims who practice jihad hate us, will harm us, and need to be stopped before they do.

Mr B is bang on about it getting ugly for all muslims once eqwar starts their killing shit here.
The thing that freaks me is that eqwar knows this, and will play it when they feel the time is right.
It is ludicrous to ignore the deadly seriousness of jihad, and retarded to allow eqwar to play their time table.
The West best dummy up right quick cuz as long as we maintain this complacency, these deadly freaks are multiplying on our turf at an alarming rate.

Cool, so you're down with what Bush is doing in Iraq then?
I mean isn't that the reason he's over there fighting this war all part and parcel of this problem?

tl, if you're looking for me to agree with you that hate mongering towards Canada or those supporting a holy war be waged against Canadians should not be permitted on our soil.. then fine, I'll agree.
But if you're looking for some sort of Gestapo to go out and round up anyone that might be construed as anti-Canadian because they don't hold the same religious beliefs as you or I, then no, I won't support what is the first step down a slippery slope towards ethnic cleansing based on religious or ethnic background.

Remember WWII... how the Japanese here in Canada were rounded up and forced into POW camps...
What did that accomplish?

[tough love]

Now you are making no sense what's so ever.

Bu$h Corp in Iraq has escalated Jihad the world over, including Iraq.
In WWII, the folks who were rounded up were a precieved threat.
Jihad is as real as death.

How should your government deal with a crazed group who are intent on killing as many of us as they can.
Have your man, Martin give them a stern talking too?

Hard times call for hard measures. I say deport the murder muttering pricks.
To Where? As far away from killing us as possible.

Something needs to be done to stop these freaks from answering their fucked up calling, and the sooner the better.

It's crazy to ignore jihad.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Now you are making no sense what's so ever.

:roll:

[tough love]

C S Trolls :roll:

Jihad is the deranged killer sitting on your porch sharpening his knife stating that once his blade is ready he will enter your home and kill your family.


Your call.

[fix]

Now you are making no sense what's so ever.

Bu$h Corp in Iraq has escalated Jihad the world over, including Iraq.

Oh well that makes all the sense in the world then. Let's give them yet another reason to be pissed off by rounding up Muslims for no other reason than they might be planning to launch Jihad on Canadian soil.
But hey... it's all good right.. I mean if they weren't paying any attention to us before, this will surely draw us into the fight.
How about we just start closing down all Mosques because they could be used as places of illegal activity while we're at it...

In WWII, the folks who were rounded up were a precieved threat.
Jihad is as real as death.

Wait... can you give me an example of this Jihad which has already occured here in Canada?
Because until you can, it's nothing but a perceived threat to us.

How should your government deal with a crazed group who are intent on killing as many of us as they can.
Have your man, Martin give them a stern talking too?

:roll:

Just how many terrorist attacks have happened here in the past 30 years tl.
If anything, I'd say that CSIS and our government has a good handle on things.
But that's not to say it can't or won't happen here, in fact the chances are that at some point it will..
But just as London which has been incredibly prepared for bombings because of their long battle fighting the IRA for the past 30+ years showed us, all the cameras and protection in the world won't stop it from happening.

Hard times call for hard measures. I say deport the murder muttering pricks.
To Where? As far away from killing us as possible.

All well and good tl. But as you deport those deserving of it and others who look like them, remember in their eyes, you're making them look like martyrs to those around them some of whom will take up the fight on their behalf

Something needs to be done to stop these freaks from answering their fucked up calling, and the sooner the better.

It's crazy to ignore jihad.

What do you propose? Carpet bombing or a couple of nuclear wakeup calls like Hiroshima and Nagaski?

[Hapday]

If anything, I'd say that CSIS and our government has a good handle on things.

CSIS disagrees:

CSIS's terror net proves weak link: High-tech terrorists could slip through Canada's spy net

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OTTAWA -- Canada's spy agency is having trouble keeping tabs on tech-savvy terrorists and criminals, an internal document suggests, and outdated laws are to blame.

"With the emergence of new technologies on an almost daily basis, CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) finds it increasingly difficult to maintain its intercept capability," reads a briefing report prepared for the agency's director in February.

"Terrorists today are sophisticated and well-versed in the usage of technology and, as such, can be more difficult to track."

The note, obtained by the Ottawa Citizen under the Access to Information Act, makes a pitch for "lawful access" legislation, which would force telephone and Internet companies to open up their networks to more snooping by law enforcement.

The move would make it easier to tap rapidly-changing e-mail and voice-over-Internet communications.

CSIS spokeswoman Barbara Campion says the legislation would ensure the agency has the same access to information it had when terrorists used the mail, rotary phones and analog technology.

"We need to modernize our investigative techniques -- it's essential to maintaining the ability of CSIS to protect the public from threats," she says.

Campion wouldn't comment on whether or not Canadians are at risk as a direct result of not having the laws in place, but allowed it "certainly is becoming increasingly difficult for us" to track people on the Internet.

American police officials have already chastised Canada for dragging its feet on lawful access, suggesting the country is becoming a liability in the war on terror.

In an Ottawa speech last year, Mike Kirkpatrick, assistant director for FBI Criminal Justice Information Services, said it would be "desirable" to harmonize Canadian and U.S. wiretapping laws.

"You're only as strong as your weakest link, so if you have places that don't adopt, then that's a weak link," he said.

Criticism hasn't fast-tracked the process. The Canadian laws were first proposed in 2000, but there's still no word as to when -- or whether -- any will be adopted.

Consultations took place in 2002-2003, and Justice Canada spokesman Christian Girouard says the department held a second series of talks this year.

He couldn't say why they were necessary, other than to "make sure everything was hashed out and discussed."

Nor could he say when the department expects to draft an actual bill to address the need, or why the process has taken this long.

"Sometimes it's longer, and sometimes it's shorter if it's something that's quite simple," he says. "I guess, with this being a complicated area, it's good to look at all the aspects before moving forward."

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

Juneau-Katsuya says that while many Canadian firms already co-operate with CSIS, lawful access legislation could be a useful tool.

"This is the era where we are. We can try to negate this reality, but at the end of the day, you're gonna have difficulties to fight an enemy that's using all types of technology and stealth itself," he explains. "That's what the nature of what terrorism is about."

He's quick to add that appropriate controls must be put in place, however.

"You've got to see the proper framework. You don't want to just give carte blanche ... that would be insane."

Privacy advocates agree, and they aren't keen on giving CSIS and police more powers than they already possess under the Criminal Code and the CSIS Act.

In a document summarizing responses to the Justice Department's initial round of public consultations on lawful access, Canada's privacy and information commissioners called on federal officials to prove why the legislation is necessary.

"The Government of Canada should only proceed further with the lawful access proposals if clear evidence is offered to support the need for changes," the document reads.

Hey, but as long as terrorists stick to using Morse code and sending telegrams CSIS will be on top of things.

[fix]

If anything, I'd say that CSIS and our government has a good handle on things.

CSIS disagrees:

CSIS's terror net proves weak link: High-tech terrorists could slip through Canada's spy net

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OTTAWA -- Canada's spy agency is having trouble keeping tabs on tech-savvy terrorists and criminals, an internal document suggests, and outdated laws are to blame.

"With the emergence of new technologies on an almost daily basis, CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service) finds it increasingly difficult to maintain its intercept capability," reads a briefing report prepared for the agency's director in February.

"Terrorists today are sophisticated and well-versed in the usage of technology and, as such, can be more difficult to track."

The note, obtained by the Ottawa Citizen under the Access to Information Act, makes a pitch for "lawful access" legislation, which would force telephone and Internet companies to open up their networks to more snooping by law enforcement.

The move would make it easier to tap rapidly-changing e-mail and voice-over-Internet communications.

CSIS spokeswoman Barbara Campion says the legislation would ensure the agency has the same access to information it had when terrorists used the mail, rotary phones and analog technology.

"We need to modernize our investigative techniques -- it's essential to maintaining the ability of CSIS to protect the public from threats," she says.

Campion wouldn't comment on whether or not Canadians are at risk as a direct result of not having the laws in place, but allowed it "certainly is becoming increasingly difficult for us" to track people on the Internet.

American police officials have already chastised Canada for dragging its feet on lawful access, suggesting the country is becoming a liability in the war on terror.

In an Ottawa speech last year, Mike Kirkpatrick, assistant director for FBI Criminal Justice Information Services, said it would be "desirable" to harmonize Canadian and U.S. wiretapping laws.

"You're only as strong as your weakest link, so if you have places that don't adopt, then that's a weak link," he said.

Criticism hasn't fast-tracked the process. The Canadian laws were first proposed in 2000, but there's still no word as to when -- or whether -- any will be adopted.

Consultations took place in 2002-2003, and Justice Canada spokesman Christian Girouard says the department held a second series of talks this year.

He couldn't say why they were necessary, other than to "make sure everything was hashed out and discussed."

Nor could he say when the department expects to draft an actual bill to address the need, or why the process has taken this long.

"Sometimes it's longer, and sometimes it's shorter if it's something that's quite simple," he says. "I guess, with this being a complicated area, it's good to look at all the aspects before moving forward."

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

Juneau-Katsuya says that while many Canadian firms already co-operate with CSIS, lawful access legislation could be a useful tool.

"This is the era where we are. We can try to negate this reality, but at the end of the day, you're gonna have difficulties to fight an enemy that's using all types of technology and stealth itself," he explains. "That's what the nature of what terrorism is about."

He's quick to add that appropriate controls must be put in place, however.

"You've got to see the proper framework. You don't want to just give carte blanche ... that would be insane."

Privacy advocates agree, and they aren't keen on giving CSIS and police more powers than they already possess under the Criminal Code and the CSIS Act.

In a document summarizing responses to the Justice Department's initial round of public consultations on lawful access, Canada's privacy and information commissioners called on federal officials to prove why the legislation is necessary.

"The Government of Canada should only proceed further with the lawful access proposals if clear evidence is offered to support the need for changes," the document reads.

Hey, but as long as terrorists stick to using Morse code and sending telegrams CSIS will be on top of things.

You have a date or link to when that was published?

All the article really says is that CCIS asked for access to information laws to be changed, which is what Bill C-36 is about.
If they're asking for more access to information, then I agree with the privacy commissioner...

"The Government of Canada should only proceed further with the lawful access proposals if clear evidence is offered to support the need for changes,"

[Hapday]

Here's a link

The law was an issue but so was this:

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

Another problem is now that terrorists also use such modern equipement as automobiles, the horse and buggies that CSIS uses can't follow them around anymore. But they have a good handle on things, right? :roll:

[fix]

Here's a link

Fair enough, I thought it was older than that.
But perhaps during the fall session of parliament, instead of filibustering the house, your boy Harper and his neo-con cronies will help Bills like C-36 get passes instead of holding them up.

The law was an issue but so was this:

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

You don't think there's not even the slightest possibility that he might have a grudge against them?
And fair enough, if we're talking about decades then, all that does is show how very competent CSIS is that they've been able to handle things for at least the past 20 years, if not more. There's no reason to think, that with routinely upgraded equipment, software and warranted changes to current laws that they won't continue to do the same for the next 20 years.

Another problem is now that terrorists also use such modern equipement as automobiles, the horse and buggies that CSIS uses can't follow them around anymore. But they have a good handle on things, right? :roll:

:roll:

Come on Hap.. even for your political bias against anything and everything pro-Martin, disparaging the quality of work and the state of the art equipment which CSIS uses by comparing it to horse and buggies is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Hapday]

But perhaps during the fall session of parliament, instead of filibustering the house, your boy Harper and his neo-con cronies will help Bills like C-36 get passes instead of holding them up.

You mean holding up this Bill C-36?

One MP who did not vote in favour of the bill Wednesday was Ontario Liberal backbencher Andrew Telegdi. On Tuesday, he broke ranks with this party to say that he was opposed to curtailing debate on the bill.

[Hapday]

Come on Hap.. even for your political bias against anything and everything pro-Martin, disparaging the quality of work and the state of the art equipment which CSIS uses by comparing it to horse and buggies is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Did you not read the article?

[fix]

But perhaps during the fall session of parliament, instead of filibustering the house, your boy Harper and his neo-con cronies will help Bills like C-36 get passes instead of holding them up.

You mean holding up this Bill C-36?

One MP who did not vote in favour of the bill Wednesday was Ontario Liberal backbencher Andrew Telegdi. On Tuesday, he broke ranks with this party to say that he was opposed to curtailing debate on the bill.

Did you even bother to read that Hap?
Your point... one Liberal backbencher broke ranks...

Why did he break ranks Hap?

Why he broke ranks because...

He said that Bill C-36 reminded him of life in Hungary when he lived there two decades ago.

"Having lived under a communist dictatorship, I know what human rights and civil liberties mean," said Telegdi. "The more we react by curtailing human rights and civil liberties in light of Sept. 11, the more we are saying to the terrorists that you have managed to greatly disrupt our way of life."

That doesn't exactly back your arguement up now does it..

On the other hand... my point was made (thanks for kicking your own ass posting it too ;) )

"The Liberals sped the bill's passage through the House by using their House majority to cut off debate on the bill Tuesday. That drew criticism from many opposition MPs, who maintained they needed at least two more days to debate each of the proposed amendments in the bill.

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Come on Hap.. even for your political bias against anything and everything pro-Martin, disparaging the quality of work and the state of the art equipment which CSIS uses by comparing it to horse and buggies is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Did you not read the article?

Why yes, yes I did.

Apparently you didn't though...

OTTAWA -- Canada's spy agency is having trouble keeping tabs on tech-savvy terrorists and criminals, an internal document suggests, and outdated laws are to blame.

[Hapday]

But perhaps during the fall session of parliament, instead of filibustering the house, your boy Harper and his neo-con cronies will help Bills like C-36 get passes instead of holding them up.

You mean holding up this Bill C-36?

One MP who did not vote in favour of the bill Wednesday was Ontario Liberal backbencher Andrew Telegdi. On Tuesday, he broke ranks with this party to say that he was opposed to curtailing debate on the bill.

Did you even bother to read that Hap?

Obviously you didn't bother to read it:

And in spite of earlier objections, some Canadian Alliance and Conservative MPs voted in favour of the bill too. All NDP and Bloc MPs present for the vote opposed it.

It wasn't the Conservatives that tried to hold up the bill.

Apparently you didn't though...

OTTAWA -- Canada's spy agency is having trouble keeping tabs on tech-savvy terrorists and criminals, an internal document suggests, and outdated laws are to blame.

Do even read the headline of the article? Or the section it was printed in?

CSIS stymied by tech-savvy terrorists
Canada accused of lagging in effort to update security technology

[fix]

You mean holding up this Bill C-36?

One MP who did not vote in favour of the bill Wednesday was Ontario Liberal backbencher Andrew Telegdi. On Tuesday, he broke ranks with this party to say that he was opposed to curtailing debate on the bill.

Did you even bother to read that Hap?

Obviously you didn't bother to read it:

And in spite of earlier objections, some Canadian Alliance and Conservative MPs voted in favour of the bill too. All NDP and Bloc MPs present for the vote opposed it.

It wasn't the Conservatives that tried to hold up the bill.

Apparently you don't quite understand the definition of 'some'
That generally means more than one as in more than one who opposed it... or as in only some of their party voted in favour of it while the majority voted against it...
As in more than the one Liberal backbencher who broke party ranks...

Apparently you didn't though...

OTTAWA -- Canada's spy agency is having trouble keeping tabs on tech-savvy terrorists and criminals, an internal document suggests, and outdated laws are to blame.

Do even read the headline of the article? Or the section it was printed in?

CSIS stymied by tech-savvy terrorists
Canada accused of lagging in effort to update security technology

Yup, that is pretty funny... you not getting that when a paper or rag does it's headlines, it sensationalises them to grab people's attention.
Media 101 Hap...

[DrDetroit]

So, Otis, what you're saying is that the headlines are not accurate...

[Hapday]

Yup, that is pretty funny...

So they also made sure it appeared in the 'Technology' section to sensationize it. :roll:

What is funny is you trying to spin your way out of the fact you are wrong...again.

[fix]

So, Otis, what you're saying is that the headlines are not accurate...

Sensationalised is what they are, especially when in the very first paragraph they're contradicting themselves by stating it's outdated laws that are to blame, not the technology which they are using.

[fix]

Yup, that is pretty funny...

So they also made sure it appeared in the 'Technology' section to sensationize it. :roll:

What is funny is you trying to spin your way out of the fact you are wrong...again.

BWAHAHA!

Pot kettle much fool?

[Hapday]

So, Otis, what you're saying is that the headlines are not accurate...

Sensationalised is what they are, especially when in the very first paragraph they're contradicting themselves by stating it's outdated laws that are to blame, not the technology which they are using.

Hey idiot, if you read the entire article, and not just want you want to read it explains that CSIS also has outdated equipement.



There were no pictures with the article, so you couldn't understand it.

[fix]

So, Otis, what you're saying is that the headlines are not accurate...

Sensationalised is what they are, especially when in the very first paragraph they're contradicting themselves by stating it's outdated laws that are to blame, not the technology which they are using.

Hey idiot, if you read the entire article, and not just want you want to read it explains that CSIS also has outdated equipement.



There were no pictures with the article, so you couldn't understand it.

Fuck your dense..

Let me dumb it down for your intellectually IT challenged brain mensa

It's not any supposed outdated equipment that they're talking about. They have the latest equipment and software technology available to them.

It's the access to information and privacy laws which they want changed.

The note, obtained by the Citizen under the Access to Information Act, makes a pitch for "lawful access" legislation, which would force telephone and Internet companies to open up their networks to more snooping by law enforcement.

The move would make it easier to tap rapidly-changing e-mail and voice-over-Internet communications.

CSIS spokeswoman Barbara Campion says the legislation would ensure the agency has the same access to information it had when terrorists used the mail, rotary phones and analog technology.

[Hapday]

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

That means it's a technology problem you idiot. But I guess sitting in your Mom's basement posting on a message board means you are a better expert than Juneau-Katsuya is. :roll:

I am glad to see you will go to any lengths to suck gLiberal government cock, even it exposes you stupidity...AGAIN. Some things never change.

[fix]

Ex-CSIS spy Michel Juneau-Katsuya, now an Ottawa-based national security consultant, says the intercept challenge has been with the agency for decades.

"Basically, with the arrival of fibre-optics, high-speed, cellphones, calling cards ... all those things, it became a nightmare for the law enforcement and CSIS to be capable to intercept communications," he says.

That means it's a technology problem you idiot. But I guess sitting in your Mom's basement posting on a message board means you are a better expert than Juneau-Katsuya is. :roll:

I am glad to see you will go to any lengths to suck gLiberal government cock, even it exposes you stupidity...AGAIN. Some things never change.

Hopeless, you're proving your own idiocy here...

Let me dumb it down for you one last time...

What he's talking about are the laws which pertain to what used to be CSIS's ability to place wire taps on phone lines to intercept communications. Not the technology or equipment.
They had the legal rights to do so then.

What they are asking for is the legal permissions to force telephone and Internet companies to open up their networks to more snooping by law enforcement.
CSIS already has the equipment and technology to do it, but not the legal permission to do so. They want those laws updated to give them the same access that they had before.

Me= IT professional, MCSE Windows 2000, MCSE Windows 2003, Cisco Certified Network Associate, Comptia A+ and Network + certified

You= Clueless

Feel free to carry on kicking your own ass though...

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What he's talking about are the laws which pertain to what used to be CSIS's ability to place wire taps on phone lines to intercept communications. Not the technology or equipment.
They had the legal rights to do so then.

Legislation is part of the problem, but lack of proper equipement to deal with the modern terroristsis a huge problem as well. Too bad the gLiberals are too busy with important matters, you know like gay marriage and brushing aside menial tasks like national security.

Me= IT professional, MCSE Windows 2000, MCSE Windows 2003, Cisco Certified Network Associate, Comptia A+ and Network + certified

Well why didn't you say that right away? This obviously gives you the expertise to question a former CSIS operative.

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What he's talking about are the laws which pertain to what used to be CSIS's ability to place wire taps on phone lines to intercept communications. Not the technology or equipment.
They had the legal rights to do so then.

Legislation is part of the problem, but lack of proper equipement to deal with the modern terroristsis a huge problem as well.

Legislation is the problem according to your article.
Please tell me you're finally beginning to see that right?

There is no lack of proper equipment when it comes to IT that CSIS has available to them. Trust me on that mmkay?
Now if you wanted to say that with as fast as the technology is changing and it's always been a battle to stay ahead of the game, then sure, that's an ongoing issue througout the IT field.
But to think that CSIS is still using outdated technology (to give you a comparative example that you might understand, Windows 286 as to Windows XP) because they don't have the latest technology or equipment to deal with tracking the modern terroritst communications is foolish. To believe it is sheer idiocy.

Too bad the gLiberals are too busy with important matters, you know like gay marriage and brushing aside menial tasks like national security

I'm sorry... who was it that kept holding up the passing of the budget this past year which contained additional spending on important things such as national security...
That's right... your boy Harper.

Me= IT professional, MCSE Windows 2000, MCSE Windows 2003, Cisco Certified Network Associate, Comptia A+ and Network + certified

Well why didn't you say that right away? This obviously gives you the expertise to question a former CSIS operative.

I wasn't questioning the former CSIC operative's statement. You're the one that misinterpreted the meaning of it. I said that the headline was sensationalised.
But It certainly gives me the expertise to know that you don't have a fuck'n clue what you were talking about.