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to me, being a liberal democrat is the same thing as being un-educated and having zero common sense, in fact, if you look closely, there are no real democrats today, a real democrat, would be a guy like harry s truman, a democrat with the wisdom and common sense to drop the atomic bombs on Japan,
TODAY, a typical liberal democrat, such as a ted kennedy or a howard dean or a john kerry, would NEVER consider doing what harry s truman did, why? because those idiots havent got a fuckin clue, they lack simple basic common sense and wisdom,

the most serious act a country can do, is to declare war on another country, to invade another country without provocation, when the empire of japan decided to declare war on the usa, from that moment on, every single child was in mortal danger, a president must make the difficult decision to protect his country first, therefore, since japan refused to surrender, common sense dictates harry's decision, and afterward, japan unconditionally surrendered,

fast forward to today, the terrorist who ruled Iraq, back in 90, invaded kuwait, he just went in, raped it, and took as he pleased, of course, the usa physically forced him out of kuwait, he was put on probation, and for 12 years, he repeatedly violated his probation,
thus, pres. bush gave the terrorist 48 hours to leave Iraq, he refused, so we removed him by brutal force,

liberals are warped sick twisted fucks, they run organizations like the aclu, ward churchill is a professor at the university of colorado, he is a sick liberal, he thinks he is an indian, and he calls the united states of america, a terrorist country, he thinks that what we did to japan, was a terrorist act, and this guy is allowed to teach? at the college level?
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, wow, I guess any fool can become a professor,
he doesnt understand common sense principles of crime and punishment, the same principles which apply to law enforcement at the local and city levels, also applies on a grand global scale, politics aside,
when idiots like brad pitt, cry about starving children in africa, blaming president bush for their starvation, BUT, he never says a word about a child being blown to bits by a terrorist?
of a liberal from hollywood says that the usa must help victims of the massive earthquakes, BUT, its none of our business if a terrorist gasses ten thousand people? OH, I see, if mother nature is responsible for deaths, its our business to help out, but if a terrorist kills his own people, its none of our concern, this is the way a typical liberal thinks,
if I hear that another liberal from the aclu, is suing a department store over having "merry christmas" displayed in their store window, I just might personally go ballistic, I might just go ape shit on them,
any liberal sick fuck, who gets "offended" by the sign of "merry christmas" in a store window, needs to leave this country right away,
pack your fuckin bags, I dont want to breathe the same air as a sick liberal fuck who finds "merry christmas" offensive, in fact, I will pay for your one way ticket out of here,
sick fuckin queer liberals,

Why do you insist in embarrassing yourself like this?

Amazing how many things Brad is correct on, and not even one reference to how tough ol Harry was or how he would eat the corn out of Sadam's shit.

bradhusker wrote:to me, being a liberal democrat is the same thing as being un-educated and having zero common sense, in fact, if you look closely, there are no real democrats today, a real democrat, would be a guy like harry s truman, a democrat with the wisdom and common sense to drop the atomic bombs on Japan,
TODAY, a typical liberal democrat, such as a ted kennedy or a howard dean or a john kerry, would NEVER consider doing what harry s truman did, why? because those idiots havent got a fuckin clue, they lack simple basic common sense and wisdom,

the most serious act a country can do, is to declare war on another country, to invade another country without provocation, when the empire of japan decided to declare war on the usa, from that moment on, every single child was in mortal danger, a president must make the difficult decision to protect his country first, therefore, since japan refused to surrender, common sense dictates harry's decision, and afterward, japan unconditionally surrendered,

fast forward to today, the terrorist who ruled Iraq, back in 90, invaded kuwait, he just went in, raped it, and took as he pleased, of course, the usa physically forced him out of kuwait, he was put on probation, and for 12 years, he repeatedly violated his probation,
thus, pres. bush gave the terrorist 48 hours to leave Iraq, he refused, so we removed him by brutal force,

liberals are warped sick twisted fucks, they run organizations like the aclu, ward churchill is a professor at the university of colorado, he is a sick liberal, he thinks he is an indian, and he calls the united states of america, a terrorist country, he thinks that what we did to japan, was a terrorist act, and this guy is allowed to teach? at the college level?
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA, wow, I guess any fool can become a professor,
he doesnt understand common sense principles of crime and punishment, the same principles which apply to law enforcement at the local and city levels, also applies on a grand global scale, politics aside,
when idiots like brad pitt, cry about starving children in africa, blaming president bush for their starvation, BUT, he never says a word about a child being blown to bits by a terrorist?
of a liberal from hollywood says that the usa must help victims of the massive earthquakes, BUT, its none of our business if a terrorist gasses ten thousand people? OH, I see, if mother nature is responsible for deaths, its our business to help out, but if a terrorist kills his own people, its none of our concern, this is the way a typical liberal thinks,
if I hear that another liberal from the aclu, is suing a department store over having "merry christmas" displayed in their store window, I just might personally go ballistic, I might just go ape shit on them,
any liberal sick fuck, who gets "offended" by the sign of "merry christmas" in a store window, needs to leave this country right away,
pack your fuckin bags, I dont want to breathe the same air as a sick liberal fuck who finds "merry christmas" offensive, in fact, I will pay for your one way ticket out of here,
sick fuckin queer liberals,

Pretty amazing you couldn't find an opportunity to include a period in that rant, especially given that you're having yours now. :)

By your logic chain, when Japan attacked America "every single child was in mortal danger, a president must make the difficult decision to protect his country first," So we attacked them.

When Saddam attacked Kuwait and was given 12 years "probation" and then violated it (without actually attacking the US), "every single child was in mortal danger, a president must make the difficult decision to protect his country first,"

?

Hmm. Let's see.
Japan attacked us, so we attacked them. Check
Saddam didn't attack us, so we attacked him. Check

huh?

Sorry dude. Your logic puzzle seems to be missing a few pieces. Perhaps they're behind the midol bottle near the corner of your desk?

The key factor is not the justification of removing Saddam - that was certainly the correct thing to do - It was the methodology employed to do so.

As for the rest, try and recall Brad Pitt is an actor with 2 active brain cells, but he's entitled to his opinion, however bizarre it may be.
Ward Churchill is entitled to his opinion, however bizarre it might be.

It's a little thing we call freedom of speech. As long as it does not infringe upon the safety of America or the rights of others, they can claim they were sent by martians to create a new TV network if they want.

As for the ACLU, They are an organization that takes the principles of individual rights to an extreme, and sometimes shoot themselves in the foot because of that, and I do think they are a little out of touch, siding more with criminals these days than victims, However, they have also brought to light situations that merited change, such as:

Edwards v. California In this case, the Court struck down an "anti-
Okie" law that made it a crime to transport indigents into California.

Hannegan v. Esquire - The Court severely limited the Postmaster General's power to withhold mailing privileges for allegedly "offensive" material.

Everson v. Board of Education - A biggie.

Brown v. Board of Education Another biggie

Gideon v. Wainwright - You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford one..."

Reynolds v. Sims An historic civil rights decision that applied the
"one person, one vote" formula to state legislative districts.

Griswold v. Connecticut - It invalidated a Connecticut law forbidding the use of contraceptives on the ground that a right of "marital privacy," though not specifically guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, is protected by
"several fundamental constitutional guarantees."

Miranda v. Arizona This famous decision established the "Miranda
warnings," a requirement that the police, before interrogating suspects,
must inform them of their rights. The Court embraced the ACLU's amicus
argument that a suspect in custody has both a Sixth Amendment right to
counsel and a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

Roe v. Wade

U.S. v. Nixon "The Tapes"

Lee v. Weisman - Sanctioned Prayer in schools

J.E.B. v. T.B. the Court held that a prosecutor could not use peremptory challenges to disqualify potential jurors based on their gender.

Ladue v. Gilleo - Freedom of Speech

Rant all you like, but the above is an example of key victories the ACLU has won for individuals rights.


But then again, that's just my opinion. ;)

Left Seater wrote:Amazing how many things Brad is correct on, and not even one reference to how tough ol Harry was or how he would eat the corn out of Sadam's shit.

All conservatives are sick retarded right wing religious fanatics, who like to go to war just for the sake of corporate profits and having military bragging rights.

There, how's that.

Now go fuck yourself.

The logic of Hiroshima escapes me.

#1. You got THE BOMB
#2 You want to set an example to end the war, saving countless lives.

Why not just drop it on a pasture away from a high volume of souls, and let the Japs chew on the aftermath, and contemplate on the horrid possibilities.
Yes I know it took 2 drops to get those idiots to respond accordingly, but your President Harry did not know that at the time, yet he choose to commit mass murder, and has been celebrated for it to this day.
Damn, you people are freakin sick.

Given the atrocities that the japs were responsible for in Nanking and The Philippines, they got a come uppance.

Besides, it was a different time. The world was war, the Japs and the Germans were attepting to take it over, and the fear was they could. It was end it then or suffer far more loss of life in the extended war that would continue.

Pick your poison.

For starters when WWII was going on The democrats were not the liberal party in America. Nice grasp of american history you have there :roll:

SunCoastSooner wrote:For starters when WWII was going on The democrats were not the liberal party in America. Nice grasp of american history you have there :roll:

Of course they weren't.

Sin
FDR

tough love wrote: Yes I know it took 2 drops to get those idiots to respond accordingly, but your President Harry did not know that at the time...

What?

What didn't Harry "know at the time"?

tough love wrote:The logic of Hiroshima escapes me.

#1. You got THE BOMB
#2 You want to set an example to end the war, saving countless lives.

Why not just drop it on a pasture away from a high volume of souls, and let the Japs chew on the aftermath, and contemplate on the horrid possibilities.
Yes I know it took 2 drops to get those idiots to respond accordingly, but your President Harry did not know that at the time, yet he choose to commit mass murder, and has been celebrated for it to this day.
Damn, you people are freakin sick.

Calling Americans sick after what American POWs endured at the hands of the Japanese is both ignorant and retarded. Perhaps you might want to read up on the battle for Okinawa and get back to me on just how you would have impressed upon suicidal fanatics the need to end the war NOW.

Oh, and don't forget, A-Bomb production hadn't exactly ramped up yet. If Truman drops those two bombs on some farmland and the Japanese DON'T surrender, he's standing there with his dick in his hands until we can make a few more.

We should have been meting out this kind of fate to the Jihadists in Afgahnistan instead of dicking around in Iraq.

RACK bradhusker.

Always a fun read.

BSmack wrote:We should have been meting out this kind of fate to the Jihadists in Afgahnistan instead of dicking around in Iraq.

I wouldn't have objected.

BSmack wrote:

tough love wrote:The logic of Hiroshima escapes me.

#1. You got THE BOMB
#2 You want to set an example to end the war, saving countless lives.

Why not just drop it on a pasture away from a high volume of souls, and let the Japs chew on the aftermath, and contemplate on the horrid possibilities.
Yes I know it took 2 drops to get those idiots to respond accordingly, but your President Harry did not know that at the time, yet he choose to commit mass murder, and has been celebrated for it to this day.
Damn, you people are freakin sick.

Calling Americans sick after what American POWs endured at the hands of the Japanese is both ignorant and retarded. Perhaps you might want to read up on the battle for Okinawa and get back to me on just how you would have impressed upon suicidal fanatics the need to end the war NOW.

Oh, and don't forget, A-Bomb production hadn't exactly ramped up yet. If Truman drops those two bombs on some farmland and the Japanese DON'T surrender, he's standing there with his dick in his hands until we can make a few more.

We should have been meting out this kind of fate to the Jihadists in Afgahnistan instead of dicking around in Iraq.

Do they teach you this horseshit in school?

Japan was cut off from war material and fuel. The island was about to starve to death.
Not a single American soldier was needed for an invasion, as a toothless nation hung there, ripe for the picking.
Now, tell me why Hirohito wasn't executed as a war criminal, and then we could continue this discussion.

BSmack wrote: Calling Americans sick after what American POWs endured at the hands of the Japanese is both ignorant and retarded. Perhaps you might want to read up on the battle for Okinawa and get back to me on just how you would have impressed upon suicidal fanatics the need to end the war NOW.

Oh, and don't forget, A-Bomb production hadn't exactly ramped up yet. If Truman drops those two bombs on some farmland and the Japanese DON'T surrender, he's standing there with his dick in his hands until we can make a few more.

We should have been meting out this kind of fate to the Jihadists in Afgahnistan instead of dicking around in Iraq.

RACK poptart.

When Bradhusker shows up, IQs tend to drop sharply. (see above)

Martyred wrote:Do they teach you this horseshit in school?

Japan was cut off from war material and fuel. The island was about to starve to death.
Not a single American soldier was needed for an invasion, as a toothless nation hung there, ripe for the picking.
Now, tell me why Hirohito wasn't executed as a war criminal, and then we could continue this discussion.

You would propose that we gift wrap Japan for the Soviets.

BSmack wrote: You would propose that we gift wrap Japan for the Soviets.

So it's Imperial interest now?

American 'left' eh?

Dr_Phibes wrote:

BSmack wrote: You would propose that we gift wrap Japan for the Soviets.

So it's Imperial interest now?

American 'left' eh?

You can feel free to validate that bullshit with evidence of continued American occupation of Japan.

Why occupy it it when you can neuter it via an imposed constitution that dictates no offensive capabilities - and a Capitalist economy?

Mission accomplished, Bush_Smack you hypocrite.

War Wag Wrote:
What didn't Harry "know at the time"?

That it would take two drops.
He was convinced that one drop would end the war, and he said as much when the news of the A_Bomb hell drop reached him.
Instead of picking a spot less occupied for his example of American superiority, his primary target of choice resulted in the slaughter 140,000 people.

War is evil...Some enjoy it way too much.

this is in response to tough love, and mr bushice,

before you respond, try thinking first,

the empire of japan, declared war on the united states, thus, every man woman and child is in danger, until they surrender, unconditionally, there is a serious threat facing every one of us,

your brain seems incapable of understanding simple basic common sense, so let me help you,

say a criminal does a home invasion on your home, and takes your loved ones hostage, torturing your kids, and doing whatever they want with you and your wife, OBVIOUSLY, you would want the S W A T teams, the sharp shooters, and the heavy law enforcement to do whatever is necessary to free you from this danger,

harry trumam did the only thing that would force japan to surrender, for 5 years, japan was not surrenderring to anyone, MAKE NO MISTAKE, if a country declares war on the united states, that is SERIOUS business, for you to bring up the fact that 140,000 japanese were killed, and trying to imply that because of that fact, truman was wrong to drop the bombs, shows me how really out of touch with reality you are, it clearly demonstrates how stupid and foolish you are, PLUS, it clearly shows a lack of wisdom and understanding on your part,

back to saddamm,
when you say that the way in which we removed him from power in Iraq was wrong, it shows that you have no sense of logic or reasonning, in todays world, no terrorist has the right to run a country anymore, especially a terrorist who invaded one of our allies,
and, let me clear a few things up for you two morons, moron number one, "tough love", and moron number two, "mr bushice", there are no such things as insurgents, all the cockaroaches who strap bombs on themselves and kill little children, are simply known as terrorist killers, when a liberal opens his mouth in here, I will make you look foolish,

in 25 years, its become very easy to make a liberal look like a stupid clown, when a lawyer from the aclu, sues a store, because that store puts up a banner saying, "merry christmas", and liberals remain silent about that lawsuit, you are just as guilty and deserve to be called "un-american", and, I also believe, you are an enemy of america,
a person who would bring a lawsuit against a store owner, for displaying a banner saying merry christmas, is a sick twisted person,
sorry, but I believe this is common sense on my part, here is the problem, there are brain dead liberals roaming around this country, causing serious concern for me, this is just the tip of the iceberg,
its so easy for me to make you look like a fool, step up bushice, for the next few weeks, you will be an easy mark for me, I see your stupidity coming for miles, I can tear you apart, and I am salivating at the thought of debating you, so far, you cant even see your idiot remarks in your first response to me, want me to point them out, on a remark by remark basis?
for starters, ANYONE who mentions that 140,000 japanese were killed, and this is why truman was wrong in his actions, is clearly a fool,
again, in a global war, if the country who declares war on you, refuses to surrender, that country and its people are in danger, this is common sense,
here is an example of a common sense principle,
if a criminal takes a baby, and holds it hostage, if a sharp-shooter has a shot at the head of the crazed individual, he takes it, sure he may miss, but he takes that chance,
fast forward to today,
liberals are sick twisted fucks, liberals tell everyone that the united states declared war on Iraq, ANOTHER LIE, we removed by brute force, a terrorist who was running that country,
the united states goes after terrorists, I love that fact, I loved it when reagan went after kaddafi, liberals back then, accused reagan of being a terrorist, oliver stone called reagan evil, while praising kaddafi, BUWAHAHAHAHAHA, see what I mean about sick twisted liberals?
liberals are upsidedown queers, ward churchill is allowed to teach at the college level, despite the fact that he doesnt know the difference between a terrorist country, and a good country, let me explain,
a terrorist by definition, is one who attacks without provocation, they may use or hide behind their religion, but always, they kill and murder because they love it, make no mistake, there is no difference between the terrorists who kill today, and ted bundy or john gotti, ALL killers kill because they enjoy it, no matter if they are serial killers or mafia kingpins or towel headed filthy cockaroaches from the sand dunes,
terrorists dont feel comfortable in their own brown skin, they hate themselves, they have such a self-hatred, that killing innocent women and children becomes their only means for exsistence,
this is what seperates stupid liberals, from a smart conservative like me, I call things exactly like they are, I dont sugar coat, or pull punches, when you try to enter into a debate with me, you had better bring logic, or I will hand you your queer ass before the bell rings,

the bottom line is this, the united states has gone to war on many occaisions, but we never kill for enjoyment, we are always fighting a sick twisted enemy, ALWAYS fighting an enemy who enjoys killing innocents, if you are a reader of history, like I am, you will see that in the past century, when the USA goes to war against someone, that someone is always a killer who enjoys killing, its a common thread actually, just read your history, and look at the common thread of every enemy we've done battle with, ALL of them love to kill, they enjoy hurting innocent women and children,
liberals wont tell you this, because liberals are the most shifty eyed liars you will ever find, just watch Al Franken next time he appears on a talk show, see how he twists like a little shifty eyed liberal weasel,
one lie after another, or Bill Mahr, or alec baldwin, susan sarandon, ed asner, barbara striesand, sean penn, rosie o donnell, etc.. etc.. ONE thing unites all of them, its lie after lie after lie,
so when ward churchill teaches his impressionable students at the university of colorado, he is brain washing them with one lie after another, he tells young college freshman, that the united states is a terrorist country, that we love to kill, and guess what? young freshman, who dont have a clue about real history, soak up this liberal liar, and become brain washed, its sad really, and when the ACLU makes it so that the words "merry christmas " become banned, your once great country slowly starts to go down the toilet,
it takes some serious thinkers like myself to see all this happenning, right before our very eyes, and then have a poster like "tough love" come in here and think he can debate me? I will fuck that liberal queer seven ways from sunday, and pick my teeth with his pencil neck body, and have a nice burp, afterward, and even let out a nice fart,

You STILL did not resolve your proposed similarity in the two events - Japan attacking the United States and our response to then attack them, and Saddam NOT attacking the United States, and our response to Attack him.

Give it a shot. Love to hear how they are alike.


As for the rest, nice rehash on the hate of your previous post, you reader of history you.

mr bushice? what is it that you cannot follow here?
do I need to simplify it for you? ok, here goes,

sure, japan attacked pearl harbour, BUT, that was not the sole reason for us dropping the atomic bombs, Japan the empire, declared war on us for no reason, should I repeat that?
the empire of japan, declared war on the USA, when that happens, every woman and child is indeeed in mortal danger, until that same country surrenders, for instance, japan didnt attack us again on our soil, BUT, since they didnt surrender, they still were at WAR with us, meaning, they could at any given time, drop bombs on our schools or homes, when a country declares war on you, that is the most SERIOUS threat of all, if that country refuses to surrender, you are left with few options, common sense dictates, that a president must force the country to surrender, for if they continue to be at war, your people are in danger, obviously, what Truman did worked, japan unconditionally surrendered, and since then, no other country has been foolish enough to declare war on the USA,
so in answer to your question, what truman did was logical and correct,

as for saddamm,
you are again WRONG, saddamm did indeed invade and declare war on one of our allies, kuwait, therefore, we have the right to fight him, Bush 1, physically beat the shit out of his pussy army, and the world put him on serious probation, he broke that probation several times, so we decided to physically remove him from power,
now, what do you fail to understand about this?
im curious how your brain doesnt connect the dots here, do you need more help in logic?
cause I will gladly give it to you,
oh, and dont bring up the united nations to me, they are corrupt, so we dont have to follow their guidelines, after all, saddamm invaded and declared war on one of our allies, and, the united nations guidelines are the ones that saddamm broke, he broke the resolutions time and time again,
the problem with the UN is this, its a seriously corrupt organization,
again, where are you not following the chain of logic here?

again, when saddamm attacks one of our allies, kuwiat, and invades them, and we physically remove him from kuwait, and the world puts him on probation for attacking our friend country, and he repeatedly breaks his probation, we have every right to remove that terrorist from power, its amazing to me that you cant follow the simple logic here, is it because you are brainwashed by the liberal french?
or perhaps you are snowballed by the corrupt UN? did you know that the human rights council is headed up by syria and cuba? BUWAHAHAA,
dont make me laugh, lets talk turkey here and quit with the liberal bullshit lies, stop hiding behind stupidity, and follow the logic,
saddamm attacked one of our allies, follow the dots here, he was put on serious probation for that serious offense of invading one of our allies, he broke his probation, so we therefore reserved the right to remove him from power by force,
again, what cant you follow here?

brad wrote:
this is in response to tough love.

before you respond, try thinking first,

harry trumam did the only thing that would force japan to surrender, yadda yadda yadda

Perhaps you should try reading what was actually posted before you go off trumping your gorde.

tough love, debating you is like debating a potted plant, its pointless,
you asked why harry didnt have the bomb dropped on a pasture where no people lived? are you fuckin serious? why would the empire surrender ? they'd have no reason to surrender, nor would they, again, let me repeat, when a country declares war on you, just because they feel like it, your response needs to be so massive, that they would NEVER declare war again, not now, or even generations from now, thats how serious this business really is,
I dont expect a stupid liberal clown like you to realize just how serious it is, when a country declares war on your country, a typical liberal doesnt even know his left foot from his right, so to even discuss a serious matter such as this is futile, grave serious matters are way way out of your brains' capacity to even begin to understand,
sorry that you cant argue with the big boys, I guess GOD delt you a short stack, ya dumb fuck,

bradhusker wrote:when a country declares war on you, just because they feel like it, your response needs to be so massive, that they would NEVER declare war again, not now, or even generations from now, thats how serious this business really is,

Well that certainly explains why Iraq continues to be a quagmire.

"The Americans only bombed the fuck out of Japanese cities and caused massive destruction and casualties because Americans are racist bastards."

signed,

Dresden (Germany)

responding in this troll thread = stupid

BTW, before anyone pulls out the radioactive aftermath card...

We had NO FREAKING IDEA at the time that the A-bomb would screw with genetics as much as it did, no idea of the long-term impact on tissue, etc. So save your lame, ill-informed arguments in that area.

We, as was our right as the attacked nation, using the best weapon we had at the time to do the most damage quickly as possible to the enemy.

It made Operation DOWNFALL a sheaf of papers to be studied by military historians and wargamers and saved a hell of a lot of American lives.

bradhusker wrote:mr bushice? what is it that you cannot follow here?
do I need to simplify it for you? ok, here goes,

sure, japan attacked pearl harbour, BUT, that was not the sole reason for us dropping the atomic bombs, Japan the empire, declared war on us for no reason, should I repeat that?
the empire of japan, declared war on the USA, when that happens, every woman and child is indeeed in mortal danger, until that same country surrenders, for instance, japan didnt attack us again on our soil, BUT, since they didnt surrender, they still were at WAR with us, meaning, they could at any given time, drop bombs on our schools or homes, when a country declares war on you, that is the most SERIOUS threat of all, if that country refuses to surrender, you are left with few options, common sense dictates, that a president must force the country to surrender, for if they continue to be at war, your people are in danger, obviously, what Truman did worked, japan unconditionally surrendered, and since then, no other country has been foolish enough to declare war on the USA,
so in answer to your question, what truman did was logical and correct,

as for saddamm,
you are again WRONG, saddamm did indeed invade and declare war on one of our allies, kuwait, therefore, we have the right to fight him, Bush 1, physically beat the shit out of his pussy army, and the world put him on serious probation, he broke that probation several times, so we decided to physically remove him from power,
now, what do you fail to understand about this?
im curious how your brain doesnt connect the dots here, do you need more help in logic?
cause I will gladly give it to you,
oh, and dont bring up the united nations to me, they are corrupt, so we dont have to follow their guidelines, after all, saddamm invaded and declared war on one of our allies, and, the united nations guidelines are the ones that saddamm broke, he broke the resolutions time and time again,
the problem with the UN is this, its a seriously corrupt organization,
again, where are you not following the chain of logic here?

The problem, Brad, is that your dots are rather spread apart, and really don't connect all that well.

Japan attacked us, we in turn declared war on them and went on the offensive. Very clear cut and simple.

Saddam did nothing of the kind. There was never an attack on the US by Saddam, and as for your "logic" of him invading an ally in 1991 as justification for attacking him twice 12 years apart, or that the Japan situation in WWII is anything like the current IRAQ situation, You are a few ball bearings short of a spinning gear.

Bizzarofelice wrote:responding in this troll thread = stupid

Biz may be onto something here..........

Like a cat with a ball of yarn am I . ;)

tough love wrote:

War Wag Wrote:
What didn't Harry "know at the time"?

That it would take two drops.
He was convinced that one drop would end the war, and he said as much when the news of the A_Bomb hell drop reached him.

Don't know about you, but I won't hesitate to keep swinging the hammer as many times as it takes to pound the nail flush, even if it takes more swings than expected.

Rack Harry Truman. The American lives he saved might have been your parents or grandparents.

As for Japan, tough shit. They started it, we finished it. They should be grateful we didn't erase them from the face of the Earth, and instead allow them to thrive today.

again mr bushice, you FAIL to see logic here, and you twist things liberally, by saying that we attacked saddamm, you are the quintessential example of the typical shifty eyed weasel liberal liar,

again, in modern society, when a terrorist invades and attacks our friend kuwait, this is SERIOUS, in fact, its GRAVE, bush number one physically made his pussy army look like a pitiful fruit, and, the world put him on serious probation, he broke it 12 times in 15 years,
therefore, without further adu, we forceibly took the terrorist out of power for good,
NOTICE how I dont lie and become a shifty eyed lying weasel coward like you, I dont sugar coat things, I bluntly tell it like it is,

there is ZERO tolerance for any terrorist dictator today, should that terrorist decide to invade our friends, ITS COMMON SENSE, and frankly, you fail to realize even the most basic common sense,

remember, I dont tolerate liberal bullshit, as soon as I smell the distinct smell of your turd bullshit, I CALL YOU OUT, and expose you for being the shifty eyed weasel liberal you are,
when you use words like, "attacked saddamm twice in 12 years", you may sound real smart to your fairy liberal friends, BUT to a smart cookie like myself, you come across as very naive, and short sighted, in fact, I chuckle at your lack of basic common sense,
again, we can argue till the sun comes up, and I am sporting massive corn- fed morning wood, BUT, a liberal will always be a liberal, an appeaser will always be an appeaser, you cant change a yellow belly, once a wussy, always a wussy,

have you ever watched a typical liberal? next time you see Al Franken on a television talk show, notice how he twists and squirms in his seat like a shifty eyed weasel, lying through his teeth, grinning like a little coward, mr. franken trying to sound like an educated man from harvard, HOWEVER, to educated folks like myself, he appears to have more in common with those who frequent san francisco bathhouses,

Brathustler Wrote:
tough love, debating you is like debating a potted plant, its pointless,
you asked why harry didnt have the bomb dropped on a pasture where no people lived?

Perhaps you should try reading what was actually posted before you go off trumping your gorde.

Who is debating, or asking why???
I know and state that your Harry choose to commit mass murder over introducing The Bomb to a less populated target because he was a sick fuc.
Same thang occured after 9/11 with that shock n awe thingy, and I know why twisted revenge seekers celebrate such sick evil acts.

Perhaps being raised on greed has taken it's toll upon your soul, whatever, you pigs need spiritual help.

You need to work on that while you still can.

Tick Tock

tough love wrote:
Perhaps you should try reading what was actually posted before you go off trumping your gorde.

I'd like to point out that the Rules of the Road for T1B specify that no gorde trumping is allowed.........

I'd suggest you both abandon this path or it's going to come back and kick your ass........

tough love wrote:I know and state that your Harry choose to commit mass murder over introducing The Bomb to a less populated target because he was a sick fuc.

You "know" squat. You have demonstrated that your knowledge of military history is nonexistent - why else would you contend that a nation that was willing to fight to the last man (as was seen at Okinawa) would have been cowed in any way by us dropping a weapon in a freaking FIELD?

Oh yeah, the Japanese, who committed atrocities like the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Nazi-like human experimentation on POW's, who distributed fliers instructing their civilians on specifically how to kill Americans should they be invaded, who were instructed to fight to the last man,woman, and child despite the massive carpet-bombing they had been subjected to....would have rolled over if we exploded our most powerful weapon like a firework demo.

Right.

More than likely, they would have -given their actions to that point- still not surrendered.

And besides, I'm guessing that 60 years later, you hand-wringers would be now whining about how we [dippy hippy voice] needlessly irradiated a beautiful piece of Mother Earth [/dippy hippy voice]...

The fact that we had to hit them 2x demonstrates that they were too stupid & stubborn to give up unless we gave them all we had.

Truman's job was to win the war and save American lives - not enemy ones. If those bombs saved even ONE more American life, then they were worth it. Case freaking closed.

bradhusker wrote:again mr bushice, you FAIL to see logic here, and you twist things liberally, by saying that we attacked saddamm, you are the quintessential example of the typical shifty eyed weasel liberal liar,

again, in modern society, when a terrorist invades and attacks our friend kuwait, this is SERIOUS, in fact, its GRAVE, bush number one physically made his pussy army look like a pitiful fruit, and, the world put him on serious probation, he broke it 12 times in 15 years,
therefore, without further adu, we forceibly took the terrorist out of power for good,
NOTICE how I dont lie and become a shifty eyed lying weasel coward like you, I dont sugar coat things, I bluntly tell it like it is,

there is ZERO tolerance for any terrorist dictator today, should that terrorist decide to invade our friends, ITS COMMON SENSE, and frankly, you fail to realize even the most basic common sense,

remember, I dont tolerate liberal bullshit, as soon as I smell the distinct smell of your turd bullshit, I CALL YOU OUT, and expose you for being the shifty eyed weasel liberal you are,
when you use words like, "attacked saddamm twice in 12 years", you may sound real smart to your fairy liberal friends, BUT to a smart cookie like myself, you come across as very naive, and short sighted, in fact, I chuckle at your lack of basic common sense,
again, we can argue till the sun comes up, and I am sporting massive corn- fed morning wood, BUT, a liberal will always be a liberal, an appeaser will always be an appeaser, you cant change a yellow belly, once a wussy, always a wussy,

have you ever watched a typical liberal? next time you see Al Franken on a television talk show, notice how he twists and squirms in his seat like a shifty eyed weasel, lying through his teeth, grinning like a little coward, mr. franken trying to sound like an educated man from harvard, HOWEVER, to educated folks like myself, he appears to have more in common with those who frequent san francisco bathhouses,

You still failed to prove what I asked, which is how you could equate The Japan attack on the US with the War in Iraq. They are two completely different situations.
And for the record I never said the Gulf war was unnecessary - it was necessary, but you lumped it in with the Iraq war, not me as some sort of proof of your argument that Japan attacking the US and us invading Iraq are the same?

Go away, troll.

Rat Wrote:
You "know" squat. You have demonstrated that your knowledge of military history is nonexistent -

I know that war is evil.
That is enough for me.

ONE MORE TIME:
P_Harry was convinced that ONE drop would be enough to get the Japs to give 'er up.
Being 100% convinced that after JUST ONE LOOK at what the A_Bomb could do would result in Japans surrender, your P_Harry still choose to feed his, and the American Barbarians of that times' sick need for vengence.


60 years later...Evolve Much. :roll: