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Defense rankings....Raiduhfan..don't look..bwah

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:55 pm
by ChargerMike
Elite Fantasy Defenses: No reason to get cute and play matchups; if you’ve got one of these defenses, you should be starting it every week, barring anything catastrophic.

1. Baltimore Ravens - Their secondary boasts 3 of the 7 best defensive backs in football, Terrell Suggs is poised for 15 sacks, and did I mention Ray Lewis?
2. New England Patriots - Bruschi or no Bruschi, this defense is as consistent as it gets for your fantasy team.
3. Philadelphia Eagles - There’s more proven talent on this defense than the rest of the NFC East has combined; expect plenty of turnovers once again.
4. Pittsburgh Steelers - All the veterans are back, and Polamalu will score big for fantasy owners.

Great Fantasy Defenses: These defenses should be started every week unless they’re facing a terrible matchup. This group also includes defenses with elite talent but significant injury concerns.

5. Carolina Panthers - So much talent it’s silly, but health issues make this defense a little scary to select high in fantasy drafts.
6. Atlanta Falcons - D’Angelo Hall is a great player for fantasy owners, and Edgerton Hartwell will solidify the run defense.
7. Buffalo Bills - A lot of talent on this oft-overlooked group, but rookie QB Losman is going to put them in some bad situations.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars - Led by the best pair of defensive tackles in football, the Jags’ D will benefit from what should be a vastly improved offense.

Good Fantasy Defenses: These are defenses that you should play if they’ve got a favorable matchu, and you have no better defense on your roster. Owners drafting one of these defenses will be well suited to take another in the same range of the ratings.

9. Washington Redskins - For all the criticism Joe Gibbs has taken, he does have this defense playing great. Sean Taylor should get it together, too.
10. Minnesota Vikings - Added a ton of quality players, but potential chemistry issues, an fast home turf, and an offense that lacks a running game make this defense one of the most easy to overrate.
11. Chicago Bears - Quietly played very well last year, especially when Urlacher was in. If he stays healthy, this could be a near-elite defense.
12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Aging a bit, but still has plenty of quality players. May be overrated by football fans still living in 2001.
13. San Diego Chargers - Got what they needed in free agency, and the young secondary should develop.
14. New York Jets - John Abraham should be back to rack up sacks, and this veteran group should put up solid numbers for your fantasy team.

Average Fantasy Defenses: None of the defenses from this point on should start regularly for your fantasy team. However, these defenses are very good backups for your fantasy team, and can start when facing very favorable matchups.

15. Cincinnati Bengals - Underrated defense that has a ton of no-name-big-play guys for your fantasy team.
16. Arizona Cardinals - The additions of Rolle and Griffith give the troubled secondary immediate credibility.
17. Dallas Cowboys - Much-improved talent, but will all the rookies mesh right away?
18. Seattle Seahawks - A lot of big name, low production guys. A good defense to avoid in fantasy leagues.
19. Kansas City Chiefs - Made significant additions, but major injury risks and an offense-first culture should be major red flags to fantasy owners.
20. Houston Texans - Added a couple nice players this off-season, but not enough overall talent to be anything more than a fantasy backup.
21. Denver Broncos - The entire Browns’ defensive line, a shaky secondary, and a division full of elite offenses eliminate this defense from consideration as a fantasy starter.

Bad Fantasy Defenses: The only time it is acceptable to draft one of these defenses is if you have one of the aforementioned “elite fantasy defenses” already on your roster.

22. Detroit Lions - Didn’t get enough help via the draft to make this group worthy of a roster spot on fantasy teams.
23. New York Giants - The absence of any turnover-makers means this defense is a bit better in real life than it is for fantasy purposes.
24. Indianapolis Colts - Will get plenty of INT’s, but could give up 45 points in any game.
25. Green Bay Packers - Did any team with a poor defense do LESS to improve themselves than Green Bay?
26. Cleveland Browns - Getting rid of the overpaid defensive line was a great long-term move, but it will hurt this weak defense even more in 2005.
27. Miami Dolphins - Just too many questions on all levels of this defense for serious fantasy consideration.
28. New Orleans Saints - They’ve finally a little talent, but a turnover-prone offense will keep it from showing.
29. St. Louis Rams - Unmotivated group that lacks both talent and consistency.

The Rest: Don’t even consider these defenses for your fantasy team unless you’re trying to lose games

30. San Francisco 49ers - Absolutely no reason to even consider this unit for your fantasy team.
31. Tennessee Titans - Bad last year, and lost about 75% of their talent.
32. Oakland Raiders - Bad last year, and lost 100% of their talent. A truly awful defense.

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:00 pm
by Raydah James
Who the fuck wrote this idiotic shit, Mike?


Just terrible-they obviously dont know jack shit about football to write something so assinine.


The Raiders will have a top 15 defense-Mark my words.

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:02 pm
by Felix
Raydah James wrote:
The Raiders will have a top 15 defense-Mark my words.
Sig bet?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:05 pm
by Raydah James
19. Kansas City Chiefs - Made significant additions, but major injury risks and an offense-first culture should be major red flags to fantasy owners
[marq=left] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: [/marq]

This just solidified my last post.



Whoever wrote this garbage is truly a fucking idiot.


So, 100% of our talent was Nap Harris (buwahahahaha) and Buchanon?

:lol:


Ditch this lame shit, mike.

Felix, you're on.

Re: Defense rankings....Raiduhfan..don't look..bwah

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:06 pm
by jiminphilly
ChargerMike wrote:Elite Fantasy Defenses: No reason to get cute and play matchups; if you’ve got one of these defenses, you should be starting it every week, barring anything catastrophic.

1. Baltimore Ravens - Their secondary boasts 3 of the 7 best defensive backs in football, Terrell Suggs is poised for 15 sacks, and did I mention Ray Lewis?
2. New England Patriots - Bruschi or no Bruschi, this defense is as consistent as it gets for your fantasy team.
3. Philadelphia Eagles - There’s more proven talent on this defense than the rest of the NFC East has combined; expect plenty of turnovers once again. Their defense boasts the remaining 4 best defensive backs in football. 8)
FTFY

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:12 pm
by ChargerMike

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:37 pm
by Raider Loco
Douche bag has the Titans bad last year and lost 75% of thier talent? If they were bad then they had no talent in the first place you dumb truck! Now the Titans signed Pac man Jones so do you think genius will take them out of his stupid catagory?

The Raiders won't have the top defense but they will be improved from last year and I wouldn't be surprised if RJ was right.

fantasyfootballjungle.com? BAWHAHAHAHA that's a credible source just like haternation.com BAWAHAHAHAHAHA! Keep reaching Dolt fan!

Re: Defense rankings....Raiduhfan..don't look..bwah

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:10 pm
by rozy
jiminphilly wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Elite Fantasy Defenses: No reason to get cute and play matchups; if you’ve got one of these defenses, you should be starting it every week, barring anything catastrophic.

1. Baltimore Ravens - Their secondary boasts 3 of the 7 best defensive backs in football, Terrell Suggs is poised for 15 sacks, and did I mention Ray Lewis?
2. New England Patriots - Bruschi or no Bruschi, this defense is as consistent as it gets for your fantasy team.
3. Philadelphia Eagles - There’s more proven talent on this defense than the rest of the NFC East has combined; expect plenty of turnovers once again. Their defense boasts the remaining 4 best defensive backs in football. 8)
FTFY
Dawkins is the best safety, but I don't think their entire secondary can be put ahead of Baltimore's as a unit as much as I would like to be wrong on that.

Re: Defense rankings....Raiduhfan..don't look..bwah

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:01 pm
by jiminphilly
rozy wrote:
jiminphilly wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Elite Fantasy Defenses: No reason to get cute and play matchups; if you’ve got one of these defenses, you should be starting it every week, barring anything catastrophic.

1. Baltimore Ravens - Their secondary boasts 3 of the 7 best defensive backs in football, Terrell Suggs is poised for 15 sacks, and did I mention Ray Lewis?
2. New England Patriots - Bruschi or no Bruschi, this defense is as consistent as it gets for your fantasy team.
3. Philadelphia Eagles - There’s more proven talent on this defense than the rest of the NFC East has combined; expect plenty of turnovers once again. Their defense boasts the remaining 4 best defensive backs in football. 8)
FTFY
Dawkins is the best safety, but I don't think their entire secondary can be put ahead of Baltimore's as a unit as much as I would like to be wrong on that.
I'm actually trying to figure out who the 3rd D Back for the Ravens that is considered the best in the NFL. It's not Deion. He's still good but I'll take 6 other CB's including the 2 Eagles D backs before I take Deion.

I'd take Reed as the best SS but Lewis isn't that far behind. (neither is T. Polamu either..)
Dawkins is the best FS in football.

I know Shepherd and Brown are not the best DB's in football but they both would be in my top 5-6 in the NFL.

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:09 pm
by rozy
If anything, Jim, the wording of the bolded part is horrendous at best.

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:20 pm
by Cuda
Marcus Allen wrote:21. Denver Broncos - The entire Browns’ defensive line, a shaky secondary, and a division full of elite offenses eliminate this defense from consideration as a fantasy starter.
Water is wet

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:21 pm
by The Assassin
Super Bowl victories. Chargerfan dont look..bwahh!

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:38 pm
by Joe in PB
I'm actually trying to figure out who the 3rd D Back for the Ravens that is considered the best in the NFL.
Ed Reed
Chris McAlister
Samari Rolle

Certainly Reed is at the top of his game, but McAlister and Rolle although very good, I'm not sure they're playing at the top of their game right now. Still without a doubt the Ravens have one of the better secondaries in the league.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:39 am
by poptart
The Oakland defense's best friend this year will be the Oakland offense.

The Raider offense had a LOT of strikes against it last year. New coach, new QB, young and unsettled O-line, NO legit running back. After Gannon went down it ALL went to shit.

The defense never had a chance to catch it's breath. Combine that with new coaches, new players, and some REAL holes in talent, and it was a disaster.

There is NO WAY Oakland has the worst D in the league this year. The offense will see to that.

James is prolly correct in saying that Oakland will be, statistically, a top 15 defense this year.

The offense will be hell-on-wheels, and that'll help a BUNCH.


Bottom line:

The dipshit who wrote his take is one dumb motherfucker.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:58 am
by poptart
Sometimes I'd rather not see your takes.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:55 am
by poptart
I know where they were last season, Paul.

They sucked ass.

I know what went into them being there, and I offered my take on it.

On many fronts, Oakland is not the same team this year.

It's '05, not '04.

Wait and see.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:06 am
by Raydah James
poptart wrote:I know where they were last season, Paul.

They sucked ass.

I know what went into them being there, and I offered my take on it.

On many fronts, Oakland is not the same team this year.

It's '05, not '04.

Wait and see.
Yep.


You've got my word etched in this place-The Oakland Raiders will have a top 15 defense this year.



Wait and see, dumbfucks.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:25 pm
by Cicero
I think the Raiders and Chiefs will tie for the 30th worst defense w/ Dick and Norv having to suck off Paul to see who finishes last.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:11 pm
by Cicero
Paul Tags, not you. Unless you want too?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:16 pm
by The Assassin
All I gotta say is Derrick Burgess was by far the best defensive signing the Raiders had. He will give the Raiders the long awaited pass rusher.