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This seems to be big news. I have little idea why.

Where's Scanner when you need him?

Very well put. Won't help Whiteys comprehension at all, but it's an accurate statement.

The trouble with helping people is that when you help them in a way they don't agree with they think you are no longer helping them.

The key word being should

And people still live in La Conchita.

I'd put money on it that those 2,000 or so protesters who are dancing in the streets now would be crying for help in a week when they no longer have the support of Israel, and they'll blame the Israeli government for abandoning them.

Fuckers. Just as useless as the so called "free iraqis"

mvscal wrote:I don't know why the Israelis even bother with these whackos.

It should be as simple as, "The army is outta here at midnight. Be gone or become subject to the Palestinian "Authority".

Exactly.

I heard the saying about keeping ones enemies closer and all ('sup P_Ughs, your looking absolutely fabulous darlings) but this makes no security sense for Israel at all.
It's like putting the cart ahead of the horse.
The terrorists are still a threat to be reaconed with in Palestine, and will take full advantage of Israels' concessions.

It would not surprise me at all if your Idiot Bush pre$$ured the Jews into doing such a stupid thing.

mvscal wrote:I don't know why the Israelis even bother with these whackos.

It should be as simple as, "The army is outta here at midnight. Be gone or become subject to the Palestinian "Authority".

yup.

These settlements are just going to be bulldozed anyway, so why not have them bombed out by Hamas Demolition Co. I'd even go so far as to send a letter to Hamas saying the following:

Dear Freaks,

It turns out that the Jewish settlements in Gaza are the holiest Jewish sites in the entire world. Save yourself the burden of paying for bus fare before you blow up the bus to walk up to the holy Jewish communities and blow yourself up there. Allah will give you all the chickens you can molest in heaven if you blow these up. Also, think of all the glorious rubble piles you can make to both decorate your new land and to gather stones to throw at soldiers.

TIA.
Israel

^
Good to know, mv, btw, you forgot to call me a piss stain.

mvscal wrote:

tough love wrote:but this makes no security sense for Israel at all.
It's like putting the cart ahead of the horse.
The terrorists are still a threat to be reaconed with in Palestine, and will take full advantage of Israels' concessions.

Actually it makes perfect security sense to Israel. Gaza is a strategic liability. There are only a few thousand settlers scattered amidst nearly 2 million Arab piss-stains. The military resources required to defend those worthless settlements are prohibitively expensive.

The West Bank and the Golan Heights are a different matter as they both contribute defensible frontiers to Israel.

never realized that until you just said so. as you know i made the comment a while back that threat of attack from gaza would grow because of the withdrawal. thanks for finally shedding light on that.

They didn't just leave the settlers for the same reason that we do forced evacuations during forest fires and other disasters here. People swear they don't want to leave until the situation becomes untenable and then they expect to be rescued. Easier to take them out by force now, than to risk more lives trying to rescue them later.

...but they still should have just left the stupid fuckers.

DrDetroit wrote:never realized that until you just said so.

way to stay on top of things.

Variable wrote:
...but they still should have just left the stupid fuckers.

Yup.

Mister Bushice wrote:The key word being should

And people still live in La Conchita.

I'd put money on it that those 2,000 or so protesters who are dancing in the streets now would be crying for help in a week when they no longer have the support of Israel, and they'll blame the Israeli government for abandoning them.

Fuckers. Just as useless as the so called "free iraqis"

Yep, looks like at least half the people still reside in La Conchita...

Seriously, is there any reason why Isreal hasn't told the Jews protesting in Gaza to go fuck themselves then? Is part of the agreement that all jews must leave?

Sure is easy to yammer about what we will never know, and be glad not to be there.
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Soldiers Find Anger, Grief Behind Settlement Doors
August 18, 2005
By SCOTT WILSON, Washington Post

NEVE DEKALIM, Gaza Strip -- Reflecting in the evening cool, Menachem Anaki realized he'd been waiting for the knock on his door for more than a decade.

A stout, thickly bearded man, Anaki moved into his pretty whitewashed home near the synagogue more than 20 years ago. Two of his four children were born here, and it's hard for him to imagine a nicer place to raise a family than among Gaza's date palms and sea breezes. But when Israel signed the Oslo peace accords in 1993, placing parts of Gaza under Palestinian political control, Anaki had a feeling his days here were numbered.

Soldiers came Wednesday evening to tell him his time was up. His Hyundai was packed for the move, and boxes filled the living room, whose walls were covered with graffiti warning the arriving troops that "God is watching you." Uncharacteristically, he began to cry. So did his wife, Mary, a special education teacher who until that moment believed the knock might never come.

"Ever since Oslo, I knew they might kick us out," said Anaki, the groundskeeper of a nearby beach resort. "But when the moment came, I realized I was leaving my whole life. As realistic as you try to be, you can't stop your heart."

The day many in Gaza's largest Jewish settlement had dreaded for months began with the arrival of hundreds of Israeli troops dashing through the streets in the morning heat. At the end of it, dozens of soldiers splayed out on the brick sidewalk near the Anakis' doorstep, sleeping amid smoldering trash fires and the sounds of chanting from inside the synagogue.

The Shachar Battalion was greeted Wednesday morning by a cluster of teenage girls standing sentry on the roof of a house near the settlement's entrance. "Shame on you," they shouted as the soldiers passed by. "Don't you dare."

The battalion stretched out in columns, troops encircling their assigned blocks. Working from maps based on aerial photography and annotated with family information for each home, small groups of soldiers knocked gingerly on doors to see if anyone would leave voluntarily. Rabbis and social workers accompanied the units.

By mid-afternoon, military officials said 158 houses and public buildings, abouta third of those in Neve Dekalim, had been abandoned.

Overall, of 1,600 families in Gaza, only 600 remained by the end of the day, the army said.

An army convoy left before dawn today to begin the second day of the evacuations.

Troops entered the settlement of Kfar Darom, an extremist center where up to 2,000 settlers and backers have barricaded themselves in with concrete blocks, barbed wire and other barriers.

In Neve Dekalim Wednesday morning, the evacuation began slowly. Fires burned in many intersections, blocking the tour buses being used to evacuate families.

The battalion worked along a row of doublewide duplexes set on sandy lots. Just after 9 a.m., a group of five soldiers knocked on the first door of the day, house No. 287. They were welcomed with shouts by two older women who answered it.

"You're exactly like you-know-who," one said, alluding to Nazi soldiers.

From across the street, several girls screamed, "You can't take her from her home."

The number of soldiers multiplied, and they prepared to enter. As they gathered, a woman in an orange anti-disengagement T-shirt set a plastic chair on the doorstep and began reading psalms to herself. After a few minutes the soldiers retreated to the curb.

In the street, two young men sprinted toward the still-empty bus parked outside and pelted the windshield with a dozen eggs. Several soldiers chased them down. After grabbing one boy by the arm and putting him on the bus, a soldier turned away in anger, his face covered with spit.

"It's very difficult for all of us, on both sides," said Capt. Rachel Zinger, 24, whose squad of female soldiers was deployed to doorsteps throughout the morning. "But we're trying our best."

The operation picked up pace just before noon, and soldiers began kicking down doors closed to them hours before.

A dozen soldiers flattened the door of house No. 285, and Zinger's squad helped evacuate a half-dozen teenage girls inside. Soldiers were forced to carry them out spread-eagle. One of them sang, "God will save us, God will save us," as she was placed on a bus. She opened a tinted window and continued chanting as a group of sobbing girls filed onto the bus. They carried backpacks. One wore fluffy slippers resembling teddy bears.

"Just put your head down, cry, then get up," one officer counseled a female soldier as she wept quietly on sidewalk. The officer, who declined to give his name, poured cool water over her head and neck, and another female soldier crouched down to embrace her.

Maj. David Kelner, whiskered and ragged, worked with his platoon clearing houses well into the evening. It was quiet, patient work, like nothing he'd ever done. No guns or bombs, but unusual things, he said, as he watched two of his men carry a car seat with an infant strapped inside.

"The day was very tough," Kelner, 39, said. "We say reality is always more than anything you imagine it might be. But today was about how I'd imagined."

tough love wrote:
"The day was very tough," Kelner, 39, said. "We say reality is always more than anything you imagine it might be. But today was about how I'd imagined."

I don't think anyone here thinks that packing up and moving away from all your memories is easy, but certainly beats staying in Gaza and quickly becoming one.

RACK empathy

tough love wrote: "The day was very tough," Kelner, 39, said. "We say reality is always more than anything you imagine it might be. But today was about how I'd imagined."

What did that douchebag think was going to happen? "Boy, I thought life was going to be smooth sailing as soon as I moved into an area where 99.9% of the populace thought I had no business being there and hurled bombs to show their opinion. This moving stuff is hard."

Eat a dick, religious freak. Yahweh called and he said he's tired of covering for you. Israeli government said the same thing.

The Israelis are being very irresponsible. Pulling out is no substitute for safe sex.

It would not surprise me at all if your Idiot Bush pre$$ured the Jews into doing such a stupid thing.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 4331702875

Israel must take more steps - Scary_Ugh_Mug_Rice.

Hapday wrote:Seriously, is there any reason why Isreal hasn't told the Jews protesting in Gaza to go fuck themselves then?

-It would make for plenty of images for the Conservative party to use in the next elections.
-The government asked people to populate that area in the first place. I guess they're somewhat repentant of their mistake.

Man, did I pick the wrong week to retire. - Marty

My question is: How will this slow down or speed up the Second Coming?

I wish Scanner would appear, all sackcloth and ashes and shit....

mvscal wrote:

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:My question is: How will this slow down or speed up the Second Coming?

I wish Scanner would appear, all sackcloth and ashes and shit....

I believe it's speeding up. If the Palestinians take control of Jerusalem it will trigger the Apocalpyse and the Four Horsemen of Notre Dame will ride again.

But the party won't start 'til the Whore of Babylon shows up....booyah!

mvscal wrote:

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:My question is: How will this slow down or speed up the Second Coming?

I wish Scanner would appear, all sackcloth and ashes and shit....

I believe it's speeding up. If the Palestinians take control of Jerusalem it will trigger the Apocalpyse and the Four Horsemen of Notre Dame will ride again.

Great, now we'll never shut Killian up.

A plus in being around for the second coming would be getting to see you scoffers run to and fro hopelessly seeking a place to hide.

Hell, just thinking about it makes me laugh. :twisted:

Aside from the idjits funding Kirk Cameron's continuing cinematic decline, I have a hard time conceiving of anyone with a fully-functioning cerebrum buying into the whole "Rapture" mythology.

Then again, I was shocked to speak with a brood of folks who were stupid and deluded enough to believe that Jesus never touched alcohol and that he turn water into grape juice at Cana. Right. That would have gone over just great at a Jewish wedding.

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Aside from the idjits funding Kirk Cameron's continuing cinematic decline, I have a hard time conceiving of anyone with a fully-functioning cerebrum buying into the whole "Rapture" mythology.

Then again, I was shocked to speak with a brood of folks who were stupid and deluded enough to believe that Jesus never touched alcohol and that he turn water into grape juice at Cana. Right. That would have gone over just great at a Jewish wedding.

You're surprise at experiencing a warped interpretation of the bible?

Jehovahs Witnesses come to my mind with that phrase.

Keep digging, heathens.

I want to live in a world filled with tough loves.

Jesus drank booze. His first miracle was turning water into Manischewitz, at his mom's request, so that the wedding reception could continue rockin'

There. I said it.

BTW, being both fully human and fully divine, Jesus also had bowel movements, which, of course is the origin of the phrase "Holy Shit"

There is, however, little historical evidence that his penultimate words on the Cross were "Peter....I can see you house from here."

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Jesus drank booze. His first miracle was turning water into Manischewitz, at his mom's request, so that the wedding reception could continue rockin'

There. I said it.

BTW, being both fully human and fully divine, Jesus also had bowel movements, which, of course is the origin of the phrase "Holy Shit"

There is, however, little historical evidence that his penultimate words on the Cross were "Peter....I can see you house from here."

I'll be damned. and I always though Jesus made Manischewitz wine by kicking him in the nuts....

Mister Bushice wrote:I'll be damned. and I always though Jesus made Manischewitz wine by kicking him in the nuts....

[applause]

That was Mr. Bushice, folks! He'll be here all week!

[applause]

:D

In memory of Henny Youngman. ;)

I smell Pig Roast.

EM Wrote:
I want to live in a world filled with tough loves.

Your will shall be done, my Brother.
Btw. How does being President for ever suit you?

The rest of you dregs ('cept for maybe a couple or so) need to know that there will be purging.
Purgings o plenty. :twisted:

Some of the protestors that had come to Gaza spoke of a "summer camp" atmosphere...it boggles the mind.