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poptart wrote:Nice division road win, Chef fan.

Your team did ya proud tonight.

KC won the turnover battle and they were more efficient on offense than the Raiders. They basically took care of business a little bit better than the home team.

Raydah James wrote:Your motherfucking team OWNS the Raiders.

Sirfindafold wrote:you are one whiney pussy motherfucker.

KUTTER wrote:I hate to say this, but the Raiders got jobbed on the Moss TD/pass interference call. That was the most ridiculous call by an official I have EVER seen. RACK Sterling Sharpe for calling it right -- the bigger guy got flagged because the little guy whined about a pushoff that never occurred. That play changed the game.

See You Next Wednesday wrote:

KUTTER wrote:I hate to say this, but the Raiders got jobbed on the Moss TD/pass interference call. That was the most ridiculous call by an official I have EVER seen. RACK Sterling Sharpe for calling it right -- the bigger guy got flagged because the little guy whined about a pushoff that never occurred. That play changed the game.

I would reckon about dozen more calls like that and Moss will be karmically even for all the push offs he got away with over the years.

JHawkBCD wrote:In other news, Sterling Sharpe and Randy Moss exchanged marriage vows Monday night in a private ceremony in the tunnels under McAfee Coliseum, following the Raiders' loss to the Chiefs. No photos are available of the event, but witnesses were quoted as having seen Sharpe longingly gazing into Moss' eyes as he proclaimed his "I do"s.

After a short reception with Raidah Nation in the parking lot, the couple departed for their honeymoon and is expected to arrive in Philadelphia in time for Oakland's next game.

BSmack wrote: Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote: Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Yeah, let's hope whatever is afflicting those zombies is contained there.

I'm just glad that KC hasn't whored out the Chiefs home naming rights to the highest bidder. How many other NFL stadiums can say the same?

Long live ARROWHEAD

War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote: Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Yeah, let's hope whatever is afflicting those zombies is contained there.

I'm just glad that KC hasn't whored out the Chiefs home naming rights to the highest bidder. How many other NFL stadiums can say the same?

BSmack wrote:

JHawkBCD wrote:In other news, Sterling Sharpe and Randy Moss exchanged marriage vows Monday night in a private ceremony in the tunnels under McAfee Coliseum, following the Raiders' loss to the Chiefs. No photos are available of the event, but witnesses were quoted as having seen Sharpe longingly gazing into Moss' eyes as he proclaimed his "I do"s.

After a short reception with Raidah Nation in the parking lot, the couple departed for their honeymoon and is expected to arrive in Philadelphia in time for Oakland's next game.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

BSmack wrote:The Hubert Humphrey Metrodome

Posted on Mon, Sep. 19, 2005



R E L A T E D C O N T E N T


Joe Posnanski


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Oakland can’t count on Moss

JOE POSNANSKI


OAKLAND, Calif. — Two plays explain Randy Moss. The first happened in the third quarter Sunday, with the Chiefs beating the Raiders by a touchdown. Moss, Oakland’s big-money wide receiver, raced by former Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Surtain. He soared over former Pro Bowl safety Sammy Knight. He pulled the ball in, ran away from the defenders, 64 yards in 11 seconds. He scored the tying touchdown.

He was Superman.

The second play happened in the fourth quarter with the Chiefs up by a field goal. It was third and 7. Moss, Oakland’s big-money wide receiver, ran precisely 6 yards, cut to the sideline, caught the ball and eased out of bounds without even making the slightest effort to pick up the first down.

He was Superdog.

Well, this is what you get when you build your team around Randy Moss. You can always tell a team’s character by its star. There wasn’t much that separated the Chiefs and Raiders on Sunday night in front of a classic Oakland sellout crowd that featured a few thousand empty seats. The Raiders more or less shut down the Kansas City running game.

The Chiefs just outclassed the Raiders, 23-17.

The Chiefs won because Trent Green hit some key passes, because the Kansas City defense tightened at the end zone and because Priest Holmes, the Chiefs’ core player, got the first down that put the game away.

More, though, the Chiefs came into Oakland and won because the Raiders have absolutely no idea what to do with Randy Moss. They were so thrilled to get him. Moss jerseys sold in Oakland. People were dreaming Super Bowl. There are some, even with the Raiders 0-2, still dreaming Super Bowl.

Let me tell you: Randy Moss is the dancing frog from the cartoon. You’re sure he’ll make you millions. But when the lights are on, he clams up.

Oh, Moss will get his numbers: The guy’s one of the great talents to ever play professional football. Sunday, Moss caught five balls for 127 yards and that special touchdown. Another touchdown was taken away by an offensive pass-interference call that was, let’s just call it, questionable. He was, without a doubt, the focal point of the game.

But the Raiders were down six points with about 5 minutes left. They started at midfield. They ran nine plays to win the game — four of those from the shadow of the Kansas City end zone.

Here’s what they did: They threw to Jerry Porter three times. They tried to get the ball into the hands of running back LaMont Jordan six times.

And they did not throw the ball to Randy Moss once.

Why? Well, there were different opinions on that.

Opinion 1: Good Chiefs defense: “We did a pretty good job covering him,” Knight said.

Opinion 2: There were other open receivers. “I guess they didn’t want to force the ball into him,” Surtain said.

Opinion 3: The Raiders don’t know what they’re doing. “Yeah, I was surprised they didn’t throw to him,” Chiefs safety Greg Wesley said.

I have a fourth opinion. The Raiders coaches and quarterback Kerry Collins have no idea whether they can count on Randy Moss. They know he might do something amazing, something you’ve never seen before. And they know he might stop running in the middle of his pattern for no reason at all. And since they can’t count on him, they didn’t.

Look: Chiefs president/general manager/CEO/godfather of soul Carl Peterson was watching Moss a lot during the game. He noticed, as all of us noticed, that when the ball wasn’t going his way, Moss would take two steps and stop.

After the game, several Chiefs players were laughing about how Moss constantly waves his hand while he’s running his patterns — “I’m open!” he seems to be shouting — the way the annoying kid on the playground does.

It’s one thing to be an individual. It’s one thing to want the ball. It’s one thing to even care more about your own personal stats than you do victory.

But what makes Moss so difficult is, when it came down to it, the Raiders did not know what to expect from Moss. It was fourth down at the Chiefs’ 10, game on the line, and the Raiders called timeout. Collins went to the sideline. He came back out, Moss was lined up to the left, the ball was snapped. Everybody in the stadium was looking at Moss. Everybody except one guy. Collins never even gave Moss a passing glance. He looked right the whole way, tried to squeeze a pass in to Porter. The ball was knocked away, almost intercepted.

The Chiefs’ offense came on the field. The Chiefs gave the ball to their longtime star, Priest Holmes. He gained 2. Then he gained 14. That was a first down. That was the ballgame.

That’s a player you can count on.

“Randy Moss is a special player,” Knight would say, and that’s a good word. Special. He can do special things. But in the 0-2 Raiders’ locker room, Moss wasn’t talking. He had a Raiders bodyguard keeping people away. He’s a special guy

poptart wrote:Piece of shit article that would not have been written had the league not taken the other Moss td away.

He lit KC up and yet here cums Chef fan pasting this shit up in here.

Go fuck yourselves, shitheads.

Moss envy.

poptart wrote:K.Collins pass to R.Moss for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on OAK-R.Moss, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at KC 6 - No Play. :roll: x infinity

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mvscal wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:Randy Moss learned how to push off from Michael Irvin. Let the defender get close and when you leap for the ball, make the push off seem incidental.

There wasn't even any incidental contact on the play. It was a bad call.

Period. EOS.

jiminphilly wrote:

mvscal wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:Randy Moss learned how to push off from Michael Irvin. Let the defender get close and when you leap for the ball, make the push off seem incidental.

There wasn't even any incidental contact on the play. It was a bad call.

Period. EOS.

I was not addressing that specific play. It was a bad call.

orcinus wrote:Jordan would benefit from Moss even more if he learned to catch the ball every now and then.

poptart wrote:RACK KUTTER is right.


The pinhead who wrote that piece is bagging on a guy who in 2 games has 10 receptions for 257 yds and 2 tds.......plus another one thieved from him.

Why didn't he slam LaMont Jordan for dropping 2 screen passes, one in the final drive in which Randy Moss cleared the entire side of the field for him. Jordan would have gone 20 yds on that play, maybe more.......maybe for a td....?

Randy's fault.


Moss is what he is. He's the best receiver of his generation, clearly on his way to the HoF. He's a gamebreaking receiver, a big play guy. I would compare him to Barry Sanders in some ways. On 3rd and 2, the Lions pitch to Barry.....the d-line gets some penetration and instead of bulling north-south to try to "gut out" two yards, Barry dances a bit and ends up getting taken down a 2 yd loss. Shit, Barry sucks. What a puss.

No, while everyone is waiting for Barry to rip off his next 60 yd highlight reel run he takes a few loss-of-yard runs. It's maddening, yes, but it's not Barry's fault. He is what he is....or was.

Moss is a homerun hitter. It's what he is. He isn't even close to what is "wrong" with the Raiders at this moment and that article was a fucking JOKE.

I always said that the Lions misused Barry Sanders. As great as he was, it was my view that he should have shared time in the backfield with a north-south sledgehammer type runner would would help the Lions move the sticks while everyone waited for Barry to bust off his next magical long-gainer.

Same with Moss. Oakland needs a Fred Biletnikoff type of guy, a guy who Collins can dial-in on to get the clutch 7 or 8 yd gain for a first down when they NEED it. Jerry Porter is not that guy. That's no slam on him either. The thing is, Porter is a poor-man's Randy Moss. He's a fairly big play guy himself. He's not a "route-runner." Ron Curry might have been the guy I'm speaking of, but damn shame that he's once again out for the season. I feel bad for the kid. Good kid. Talented 7th round steal. Damn shame.

Moss is a GREAT player and he is nothing but an asset to the Raiders.

Until I see otherwise, that is my take.

Chiefs president/general manager/CEO/godfather of soul Carl Peterson

Raider Loco wrote:We also have 2 more fucking rings you will never achieve.

poptart wrote: Moss is what he is. He's the best receiver of his generation....

Aaron in Tucson wrote:Wags, I'll get your booty off next week.