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Here comes the pain again. MSU v. Mich. Payback time.
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:57 pm
by MSUFAN
LC was heard singing; "Wake me up, when September ends" on the plane back to AA.
Drew Stanton just "MAY" be the best QB out there this year. But; you didn't hear that from me. We'll see how this all shakes out in a few weeks.
Uh, - Letdown? The only people let down here Saturday were the 51,000 Illinois fans who showed up expecting their team to play football.
The Fighting Illini instead just watched helplessly as No. 17 Michigan State had the best offensive day in its history. MSU set a school record for yardage in a game (705), tied the Big Ten record for touchdown passes in a game (seven), and appears capable of scoring any time, on anyone.
"That's what this offense can do for you, if you let it," said MSU quarterback Drew Stanton, who set a school record with five touchdown passes - while playing less than three quarters.
MSU 61, Illinois 14. And it seemed worse, prompting first-year Illinois coach Ron Zook to apologize to those who paid to watch it.
The Spartans - 4-0 for the first time since 1999 and 1-0 in the Big Ten - did not relax after last week's 44-41 overtime win at Notre Dame. They did not peek ahead to next week's home showdown with rival Michigan - but they are now.
"I told everyone: Redemption's at hand this week," MSU senior guard Gordie Niebylski said, referring to last season's triple-overtime loss at Michigan. "This is gonna be the most focused our team will be coming into a game."
Consider:
• True freshman running back Javon Ringer ran the ball 13 times for 194 yards - an MSU freshman record and the most ever by an MSU back against Illinois. He led the way for an MSU rushing attack that gained 376 yards on 48 attempts (7.8 per carry).
• MSU blew open the game with 28 points in the second quarter, en route to the fifth-most points in school history and the most under third-year coach John L. Smith.
• Nine different MSU receivers caught passes, led by Matt Trannon with five for 71 yards and a score; Kerry Reed with five for 71 and a score; and Kyle Brown with two for 90, including a 75-yard touchdown to open the scoring. Jerramy Scott caught a touchdown pass and ran one in on a direct snap, tight end Dwayne Holmes grabbed two scoring tosses, and tight end Kellen Davis caught one.
• Stanton was surgical as usual, connecting on 20 of 26 attempts for 259 yards, with no interceptions. He now has 13 touchdowns to two interceptions on the year. And MSU's offense is averaging 49 points and 594.3 yards a game - dwarfing the school-record numbers from 1978 of 37.4 points and 481.2 yards.
"If we execute and don't make mental mistakes out there, someone is gonna be open on every play," MSU senior center Chris Morris said. "And we'll open the holes."
I fully expect a crazed bunch of killers to FIRE out of that tunnel come this saturday. It's payback time.
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:11 pm
by T REX
It's also Illinois and Ron Zook. Dude's Nawlins defense gave up the most points over a four game stretch in the history of the NFL.
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:28 pm
by MSUFAN
Yep. A full asskicking, there boy.
This Stanton kid is just unreal, people.
(Watch, I just jinxed him for UM)
His ball just has that arc. That trajectory. A lot like Matt Leinart. He can also run with it. Allthough John L Smith has chilled him some on the exhuberent running tendency. The run last season vs. Mich. undoubtably cost MSU a 40 point regulation. Or at LEAST a ton of clock killing drives later on.
How much more can this Junior do? We'll see these next two games. UM, and then in two weeks, tOSU !!!!!
It'd be refreshing to see the B10 Championship go through Columbus this year, instead of Ann Arbor, like every swinging dick said.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:10 am
by PSUFAN
I see MSU beating UM, but then again, just when you think they have something, they turn belly up and expire. It's been happening for years - decades.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:09 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
This would probably be a good place for that pic Killian dropped at Scobode. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:40 pm
by Shoalzie
I won't live in denial, State will beat Michigan this weekend and beat them by at least double digits. The Wolverines are a mess right now and I wonder if this is going to be 4 or 5 loss season.
Now, please excuse me while I go throw up...
![Embarassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:09 pm
by BlindRef
I don't know shoalzie...
Cocky Michigan State fans are fun. They just can't handle the success...
Just like we can't handle the failure.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:54 pm
by Killian
Terry in Crapchester wrote:This would probably be a good place for that pic Killian dropped at Scobode. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it.
This is the same dude, but a different picture. I'll see if I can find the original. This one you have to look real close.
![Image](http://umgoblue.com/images/Football/2004/04UMMSU/04ummsu-HenneHart.jpg)
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:22 pm
by Shoalzie
BlindRef wrote:I don't know shoalzie...
Cocky Michigan State fans are fun. They just can't handle the success...
Just like we can't handle the failure.
I agree but they can handle success on the court...I don't know if they'd know what to do if they went to a BCS game. They do have a harder time admitting when they're bad than we do. We can be in denial as well but I know that this is an overrated Michigan squad this year. They shouldn't be 2-2 but they didn't deserve that top 5 ranking early on.
I don't give a damn about the Big Ten title like Lloyd does. I go into every year expecting a national title. Once they lose a game, the rest of the season is irrelevant to me. Now with two losses and being out of the top 25 for the first time in 7 years, it's almost too painful to watch the rest of the season. I remember that '98 season. Notre Dame hammered them and McNabb and Syracuse tore them up at the Big House. They don't look as bad now as they were then but my confidence in this team is just as low though.
If they do run over Michigan like I expect them to, I'd love to see SpartanFan get a huge head and then get humbled by OSU. I don't see many teams with the defense that can control MSU's offense. We better hope the Buckeyes can slow them down because the MSU myopia train will be hard to stop if they're still unbeaten after these next two games. I'd love for Michigan to be a spoiler on Saturday but I'm a wounded Wolverine fan that is expecting a massacre at Spartan Stadium. I have a bad feeling this game could be over by halftime.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:39 pm
by MSUFAN
I love how UM fan caresses MSU dickshafts. Knowing that UM is QUITE capable of winning this saturday.
Damn, guys. They're STILL UM, ok? It's called #1 alltimes.
Pride.
Bo.
Mohellers Monsters!
UM and Carr have everything to prove. MSU is placed firmly on the "favored by 7" hot seat.
This game could end up a lot like last years. Only no Braylon to save them. No crappy on-sides kick for MSU to fumble.
(Oh, and NOW D. Dodd wants to slobber our cranks. Link)
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8894444
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:58 pm
by MSUFAN
Killian wrote:Terry in Crapchester wrote:This would probably be a good place for that pic Killian dropped at Scobode. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark it.
This is the same Flag, but a different picture. I'll see if I can find the original. This one you have to look real close at the crybaby asshole ND fans making a fuss over a deserved celebration on OUR field!
![Image](http://www.detnews.com/pix/2005/09/17/sports/msund/19.jpg)
FTFY.
Next time, bring the God Damn trophy to the stadium.
Dick.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:50 pm
by Killian
Just like your fans Babs, you're all class.
Tell me, if MSU loses on Saturday, are you going to be in here next week, or are you going to "go in the basement" because of "computer problems"?
It's not my fault MSU players become incontinent when they play UofM.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:34 pm
by Shoalzie
MSUFAN wrote:I love how UM fan caresses MSU dickshafts. Knowing that UM is QUITE capable of winning this saturday.
Damn, guys. They're STILL UM, ok? It's called #1 alltimes.
Pride.
Bo.
Mohellers Monsters!
UM and Carr have everything to prove. MSU is placed firmly on the "favored by 7" hot seat.
This game could end up a lot like last years. Only no Braylon to save them. No crappy on-sides kick for MSU to fumble.
I'm not going to blindly say the typical "State sucks" or "Michigan rules" or whatever...State is the better team going into the game and they're playing like a top 10 team. Michigan being out of the top 25 has to be a wake up and with their in-state rival coming up, they have to be a motivated team. State has more to lose in this game and I just think they will play with more desperation than Michigan...the Spartans just don't get too many opportunities like this. I fear a blow out but I have a feeling the Michigan should be able to put points on the board but not enough to keep up with Stanton. State has to win this game...Michigan doesn't have nearly as much on the line. I can't imagine the disappointment in East Lansing if the Wolverines can knock them off. Don't get me wrong...I'm not playing possum here, State should win this game. If Michigan wins, I'd be relieved and a little bit shocked. I don't care about winning the conference...my only expectation is an unbeaten season and that's long gone out the window. It's now a matter of playing spoiler to State and OSU.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:58 pm
by MSUFAN
You Billingsley critics may be right.
Check out this assholes line on what ND and MSU did this last week.
#25 Michigan State, 4-0; then #25 beat then #78 Ill. 61-14. (pts. then) 251.709. (now) 253.612.
#26 Notre Dame, 3-1; then #30 beat then #93 Wash. 36-17. (pts then) 248.089. (now) 250.700.
So, lemme get this straight. Notres Dome, a team who WE beat at their own crib (AGAIN!) moves up four spots for beating a team 15 places lower than the team MSU smeared all over the field (On road also) by a far wider margin!? How does MSU stay at #25 after that anal raping of Ill.! We were only favored by 10.5 in Vegas!!
Billingsley may be a tard. You all have been saying it for the last two years.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:11 pm
by BlindRef
MSUFAN wrote:I love how UM fan caresses MSU dickshafts. Knowing that UM is QUITE capable of winning this saturday.
Damn, guys. They're STILL UM, ok? It's called #1 alltimes.
Pride.
Bo.
Mohellers Monsters!
UM and Carr have everything to prove. MSU is placed firmly on the "favored by 7" hot seat.
This game could end up a lot like last years. Only no Braylon to save them. No crappy on-sides kick for MSU to fumble.
(Oh, and NOW D. Dodd wants to slobber our cranks. Link)
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8894444
You aren't the first to bring this up.
I find that most of my MSU are very frustrated that most Michigan fans aren't talking shit back. Normal years Sparty fan talks shit, Michigan fan reminds them that they are still Sparty.
This year, Michigan fan is a bit stunned and confused. Its easier for us to prepare for the loss at this point then to expect the win. This attitude appears to be driving Sparty Fan nuts who wants Michigan so badly to respect them and since we are predicting a loss, an MSU win means less overall.
Babs, and all the MSU fans need to understand that Michigan is wounded, we are a dazed and confused group of fans. We came into this season with high hopes, and just like OU and others we've had our season shattered after only 4 games. Yes, Michigan could win the Big Ten, and yes there are a lot of ways to make this season special.
But, we refuse to allow the MSU game to make or break our season. I think most Michigan fans would mortgage the entire season rather than give Sparty fan the satisfaction of knowing that a win over Sparty made the season for Michigan.
I will be there Saturday...wearing my Albion College shirt as not to get a beer bottle broken in my face. I expect MSU to win, but I hope and pray that they don't.
Go Blue
Fuck State.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:24 pm
by WolverineSteve
For the record.............
Nowhere have I (UM Fan) given any props to state. Fuck 'em, I hate them. We will beat state, why?, because it's how the world works. State fools the world into believing that their team will finally be worth a damn, only to shit the bed when it's time to prove their merit. It's in the records, check them if you must. State is far inferior to their "big brother". The only time they sneak up and beat Michigan is when they are not supposed to. It's a lead-pipe, dead-nuts, bet the farm, take it to the bank, mortal lock...Take the maize-n-blue, who needs the points, straight up winner winner chicken fricken dinner!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:52 am
by Screw_Michigan
Shoalzie wrote:I don't give a damn about the Big Ten title like Lloyd does. I go into every year expecting a national title. Once they lose a game, the rest of the season is irrelevant to me.
shoalz, c'mon dude. i understand that you (and all scu-m fans in general) are staring down the barrel of possibly scu-m's worst season in recent memory, but the attitude of "i go into every year expecting a national title" is a little over the top. college football is cyclical. in 97 usc was a year away from losing in the sun bowl to texas christian, penn state played michigan in a meeting of two undefeated teams in november, syracuse was pulling future nfl draft picks left and right, and va tech was a good football team but not gunning for national titles on a consistant basis. lord how the landscape has changed. the orangemen are irrelevant and penn state is nothing until they prove otherwise in the big 11, not to mention va tech is a top five team over the past four years, and usc is well usc. whatever the reasoning, the national scene always fluctuates and this just might be a tough year for wolverine fan.
the only team right now who's fans can expect national titles (which means one loss overall) is usc, everyone else is lucky to get away with one loss. unless scu-m breaks the rivalry with ND and goes to nothing but four mac teams at home for OOC, michigan fan should be glad to be undefeated entering conference play. and i'll give credit to scu-m for playing a decent non-con opponent on the road in september (other than ND) every few years. since they have been losing those games recently, that's going to end pretty soon, but michigan could totally go SEC and never leave ann arbor until the first week of october.
just like how osu was limp with cooper as head coach, scu-m is entering a down period. and the big 11 is always turbulent when it comes to standings. osu and scu-m will always be the big dogs throughout the season, but you never know what mediocre team will bite either school in the ass at one point in the season. it's just too tough.
now if you said "scu-m hockey: we only play for natl titles," i'd hear your argument. but then again, the ccha doesn't play only eight league games. scu-m football will be back,
unfortunately. i'd put money on scu-m hockey staying a national power before doing the same on scu-m football. it's the market.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 pm
by Shoalzie
You sure love throwing that SCU-M label around, don't you?
As a fan as of this program, you shouldn't expect less than an unbeaten season. If you run the table, of course you'll win the conference. I understand college football does go in cycles but Michigan has probably been the most consistent program in recent years...unfortunately, it's been consistently losing 2 or 3 games a year. Other than '97, none of these seasons I would hang my hat on.
Part of it is because of the bowl system. There is no difference to me between the Alamo Bowl and the Rose Bowl. The game means nothing in the national title picture...win or lose. If there was a playoff where one or two losses a year would keep a team alive for a playoff, I would go off the deep end like I usually do every season when they lose their first game. This system right now dictates that you have to go unbeaten or lose a quality opponent to be eligible for the big game at the end of the year. I won't go into how much I hate the BCS but for now, when Michigan loses their first game, it really doesn't matter to me what happens beyond that because the national title is out the window.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:20 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Shoalzie, face it, Michigan's level of unacceptance for losing exists at many other schools, and at programs within the Big Ten. Not just at Michigan. As a player, a coach, and a fan of a team, you hope and strive for undefeated seasons every time fall rolls around, obviously, but I don't think too many people realistically expect that to actually happen.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:32 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Shoalzie wrote:You sure love throwing that SCU-M label around, don't you?
As a fan as of this program, you shouldn't expect less than an unbeaten season. If you run the table, of course you'll win the conference. I understand college football does go in cycles but Michigan has probably been the most consistent program in recent years...unfortunately, it's been consistently losing 2 or 3 games a year. Other than '97, none of these seasons I would hang my hat on.
Part of it is because of the bowl system. There is no difference to me between the Alamo Bowl and the Rose Bowl. The game means nothing in the national title picture...win or lose. If there was a playoff where one or two losses a year would keep a team alive for a playoff, I would go off the deep end like I usually do every season when they lose their first game. This system right now dictates that you have to go unbeaten or lose a quality opponent to be eligible for the big game at the end of the year. I won't go into how much I hate the BCS but for now, when Michigan loses their first game, it really doesn't matter to me what happens beyond that because the national title is out the window.
I think you've hit on the whole problem with college football. If you have a good but not-quite-perfect season, you're punished. OTOH, you get rewarded for a mediocre season, i.e., 6-5 gets you a bowl bid if you play in a major conference.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:35 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Michigan fan isn't myopic just in their belief they should never lose a game, but is also myopic in believing their talent is always better than everyone else's. It's just not always the case. The media has a lot to do with this. Radio talk show hosts and journalists around here are very proficient at sucking the cocks of Michigan recruits, and rarely do they live up to the hype. I would know, I currently live in Ann Arbor. The reasons for this are because 1) the bar is set at a level that is not realistic (i.e., expecting a true freshman quarterback to lead Michigan to a Big Ten title/and or BCS bowl berth) and 2) they wax good or very good recruits as gods and saviors. That's the reason why a Chad Henne was talked about more than a Drew Stanton before entering this season, and we all now know who the better quarterback is.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:21 pm
by Shoalzie
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Shoalzie wrote:You sure love throwing that SCU-M label around, don't you?
As a fan as of this program, you shouldn't expect less than an unbeaten season. If you run the table, of course you'll win the conference. I understand college football does go in cycles but Michigan has probably been the most consistent program in recent years...unfortunately, it's been consistently losing 2 or 3 games a year. Other than '97, none of these seasons I would hang my hat on.
Part of it is because of the bowl system. There is no difference to me between the Alamo Bowl and the Rose Bowl. The game means nothing in the national title picture...win or lose. If there was a playoff where one or two losses a year would keep a team alive for a playoff, I would go off the deep end like I usually do every season when they lose their first game. This system right now dictates that you have to go unbeaten or lose a quality opponent to be eligible for the big game at the end of the year. I won't go into how much I hate the BCS but for now, when Michigan loses their first game, it really doesn't matter to me what happens beyond that because the national title is out the window.
I think you've hit on the whole problem with college football. If you have a good but not-quite-perfect season, you're punished. OTOH, you get rewarded for a mediocre season, i.e., 6-5 gets you a bowl bid if you play in a major conference.
You and I are on the same page. The season turns into one big tournament...that's what the BCS honks like to point to each year. I like the idea of every game meaning something for the major conference teams but when it comes to the MAC and some of the other mid-majors, they don't get a shot at the title if they have an unbeaten or a one-loss season. The mid-majors goal going into the season is playing in the Motor City Bowl or some other bowl that is played before Christmas. We need a system where every team has a chance to play for the national title. Plus if we had a system that keeps one and two loss teams still alive, we'll see a little more courage in non-conference scheduling. I'd love to see more than just Notre Dame on Michigan's non-conference schedule.
As for your takes MgoB...you're absolutely right. When a season lives and dies on one loss, being a fan of a national power, you hope that this year will be the year you win them all...but that doesn't mean it will happen. They ran the table in '97, so that tells me it's possible. You just have to get all of the right things to go your way. It's impossible to tell how good teams are going to be before the season...that's why recruiting and juding returning talent is an less than perfect science. Michigan was overrated going into the season but they shouldn't be as bad as they have been so far. Take away a few key turnovers and they're 4-0 just like State. That's all part of how if you don't get the right breaks, you can't go unbeaten. State hasn't had the problem yet...although they had their scare with Notre Dame and blowing the 21-point lead in the second half and having to escape with an OT-winner.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:30 pm
by buckeye_in_sc
^^^^
Racks abound...
could be worse...you could be 9-0-1, 10-0, and 10-0 heading into your last game this is your year THREE FUCKING times and get your hopes dashed...
not saying losing early is any better, but one loss early usually helps (see FSU in 98), but in the last couple of years that theory has surely been debunked...
I just hope Michigan fucking jams the football straight up States ass and has stanton spitting laces...i can't fucking stand MSU and how their fan (Babsie) only shows up when they win a big game or wins...once they lose 4 in a row starting this week...we'll be subject to we have better turf than the other Big 10 schools...
fuck off state...GO MOTHER FUCKING BLUE (holy shit did I say that again?)
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:33 pm
by Shoalzie
buckeye_in_sc wrote:fuck off state...GO MOTHER FUCKING BLUE (holy shit did I say that again?)
I think you did...I'm surprised to see you pulling for Michigan here. A Michigan win would knock State off this high they're on, that's for sure. I don't think you guys will want to play them off a bye and with a 5-0 record fresh over beating their hated in-state rivals. Even if they lose to Michigan, that game in two weeks will still be great.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:40 pm
by buckeye_in_sc
^^^^
Fuck the Spartans...fuck them I say...I could give a rats ass about their fucking record...
what have they done lately FUCKING nothing and they act like world beaters...
I hope fucking Michigan scores 60 on them...you hear me Lloyd Cooper...step on their throats...
Yes we get them in the Shoe in two weeks...I can't wait to see Hawk and carpenter pound Stanton into the turf...
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:26 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
There's an OSU fan here here at work who's an alcoholic and a gambling addict. He's also REALLY stupid. He just bet me $50 that Michigan would finish the season with a losing record. Easiest money I'll ever make. Funny thing is, I don't really even need to root for Michigan much, just need nature to runs its course with wins vs Indiana, Penn St, Northwestern, Minnesota and (probably) Iowa. The way I see it is they'll lose to MSU and OSU, and worst case scenario, they may slip up to Iowa, PSU or Minny - one of those three, if any. And if they do lose one of those, that still puts them at 6-5, a winning record.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:28 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
buckeye_in_sc wrote:^^^^
Fuck the Spartans...fuck them I say...I could give a rats ass about their fucking record...
what have they done lately FUCKING nothing and they act like world beaters...
I hope fucking Michigan scores 60 on them...you hear me Lloyd Cooper...step on their throats...
Yes we get them in the Shoe in two weeks...I can't wait to see Hawk and carpenter pound Stanton into the turf...
World beaters? You must be referring to Babs. All I ever said was that they'll beat Michigan, and that ain't beatin' the world, that's more like putting a dent in Rawanda, or something.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:04 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
^ sig material for a tOSU poster
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:37 am
by MSUFAN
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Michigan fan isn't myopic just in their belief they should never lose a game, but is also myopic in believing their talent is always better than everyone else's. It's just not always the case. The media has a lot to do with this. Radio talk show hosts and journalists around here are very proficient at sucking the cocks of Michigan recruits, and rarely do they live up to the hype. I would know, I currently live in Ann Arbor. The reasons for this are because 1) the bar is set at a level that is not realistic (i.e., expecting a true freshman quarterback to lead Michigan to a Big Ten title/and or BCS bowl berth) and 2) they wax good or very good recruits as gods and saviors. That's the reason why a Chad Henne was talked about more than a Drew Stanton before entering this season, and we all now know who the better quarterback is.
^ Best post in the whole thread.
The Detroit media (Ann Arbor is a mere 20 miles from Detroit) salivate up and down UM. Every year they just continue to rant and rave. Now, dicksuckers like Terry Foster, and Drew Sharp, as well as Rob Parker; ALL Detroit media sports hype specialists, can't seem to even give much of ANY props to John L. Smith and the Spartans. It's all about injuries this, and that. Just like thier hoops team, always blaming something.
In Michigan Football, they should have 2 more bluechip, 4 star recruits just WAITNG on their chance for their guy to get hurt! But, what happens is just what MGO said. These guys are WAY overhyped. And we're seeing that on the field, first hand, up close; this year. No hiding it.
At State, we can't explain how good starts to seasons have recently turned bad. But I got a feeling, that's changing. You're all seeing what Louisville is doing now, with all of Smith's recruits. Ans this is Smith's 3rd season here! Wait another 2 or 3. I say we're BCS material almost every year! And if we get a few more 5 star defensive guys, it's (Gasp!) Title time?! Dare I say it!?
[Great read on Stanton:]
A Spartan thru & thru
QB Stanton itching to face UM
Drew Stanton grew up in a Michigan State household. His father, Tom, played baseball for the Spartans and an MSU flag flies proudly in front of his family's Farmington Hills, Mich., home.
And what about U of M?
The Wolverines have always been the evil empire.
Stanton, the Spartans' fourth-year junior quarterback, knew early on that he wouldn't wind up in Ann Arbor. Michigan tried to recruit him, but the courtship did not get very far after Stanton said he would never go there following the Michigan state championship game his junior year at Harrison High. He recently punctuated his dislike by tearing off the cover of a video game because it had a picture of a Michigan player on it.
"Michigan has a little luster to it, but when you grow up as a Michigan State fan, the luster fades quickly," he said.
Stanton, a 6-3, 228-pounder, has been salivating over the thought of playing the Wolverines on Saturday in East Lansing for close to a year, ever since he took a vicious hit from linebacker LaMarr Woodley and suffered a dislocated shoulder at the end of the first half of a 42-35 triple-overtime loss at the Big House in Ann Arbor.
"We were up 10," Stanton recalled. "It was a third down and medium. I wound up running an option play and kinda sprung loose. He kinda ran me down from behind and grabbed my arm so I couldn't brace my fall because the ball was in my hands."
Stanton can still remember Michigan fans cheering his injury as he left the field. "I guess they felt at that point, with me going down, they had a better chance to win," he said.
Stanton stood helplessly on the sidelines the rest of the game, watching while the Wolverines rallied from a 17-point deficit in the fourth quarter. He remembers being crushed by the experience.
But if nothing else, Stanton has been resilient. He has been the ultimate impact player on offense in the Big Ten so far, a pass-run threat who has been the perfect player to run John L. Smith's creative, high-voltage spread offense, which is averaging 594 yards for a 4-0 team that is ranked 11th in the AP poll. "It took me a good year and a half to grasp the offense," Stanton said. "I think what makes it so successful is you have to account for so many things. Not to say the previous offense didn't. It was just a different style. You had big backs and big-play wide receivers like Plaxico Burress and Charles Rodgers."
Stanton leads the nation in pass efficiency with a 201.3 rating. He has completed 73.1% of his passes (79 of 108) for 1,184 yards and 13 TDs, with only two interceptions. He passed for three touchdowns in a 44-41 overtime victory at Notre Dame and five more when the Spartans crushed Illinois, 61-14, last week in their Big Ten opener. Another big game on national TV, and Stanton could emerge as one of the frontrunners for the Heisman Trophy.
It is never easy for MSU against Michigan, which has won more than 70% of the games between these two rivals. In fact, this is the first time in 30 years that the Spartans are actually favored (by four points). The Wolverines are an uncharacteristic 2-2 and unranked for the first time since 1998.
Michigan, which was ranked No.4 in the preseason, was supposed to create offensive fireworks, but the Wolverines have been crippled by injuries to the offensive line, tight end Tim Massaquoi and tailback Mike Hart. Hart, the reigning Big Ten Freshman of the Year, missed the last two games after pulling a hamstring early against Notre Dame. Both he and Massaquoi are expected to play this week.
Michigan fans cheering.
There's that "class" again.
Bring the Pain, Drew! Show Michigan what they get for cheering you for lying on the turf!
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:42 am
by PSUFAN
rack the return of UM/MSU love on this board.
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:49 am
by BlindRef
I don't think Michigan fans were cheering...i think that stuff can be misread.
Either way...it was nice not having Stanton in the game. I love his hate, its great seeing it. I can't wait to see Woodly come around that corner again. Think Stanton still has nighmaters about 99 breaking him 2 times a row? I hear these things come in 3s.
Babs, you going to the game? Or is the $72 going to get in the way of you making your trailor payment? Saturday's are big days at local fast food joints, so it may be tough for you to get the day off.
I'll be there...wearing my Albion sweatshirt as not to get a beer bottle broken in my face by some drunk fuck failure...errr Spartan student.
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:27 am
by buckeye_in_sc
Mgo...forgot you were spartan fan...more meaning my rant toward babsie...
still GO MOTHER FUCKING BLUE!
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:46 am
by Terry in Crapchester
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:There's an OSU fan here here at work who's an alcoholic and a gambling addict.
You work with 88? Who knew? :D
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:26 pm
by MClub
The Detroit media (Ann Arbor is a mere 20 miles from Detroit) salivate up and down UM. Every year they just continue to rant and rave. Now, dicksuckers like Terry Foster, and Drew Sharp, as well as Rob Parker; ALL Detroit media sports hype specialists, can't seem to even give much of ANY props to John L. Smith and the Spartans. It's all about injuries this, and that. Just like thier hoops team, always blaming something.
damn you cry a lot. the detroit media's all up on michigan's football nuts b/c it's one of the better programs in college football; msu occasionally rewards its long-suffering fans with six or seven wins and a bowl loss. perhaps if yr new coach keeps this winning thing up longer than four games state football will be covered in much the same way the basketball team already is.
michigan - 452
michigan state - 3 (i'll give stanton SOME credit)
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:30 pm
by Killian
BlindRef wrote:I don't think Michigan fans were cheering...i think that stuff can be misread.
They cheered when Darius Walker was hurt this year. They cheered last year too. You could hear it on TV.
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:13 pm
by Shoalzie
buckeye_in_sc wrote:^^^^
Fuck the Spartans...fuck them I say...I could give a rats ass about their fucking record...
what have they done lately FUCKING nothing and they act like world beaters...
I hope fucking Michigan scores 60 on them...you hear me Lloyd Cooper...step on their throats...
Yes we get them in the Shoe in two weeks...I can't wait to see Hawk and carpenter pound Stanton into the turf...
If State does beat Michigan, I hope you guys stomp a hole in the Spartans. I've dealt with the Buckeyes winning the Big Ten in the past...I couldn't stomach seeing State win the conference title. If we can't knock them off on Saturday, I hope you guys take care of business in two weeks.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:41 am
by MSUFAN
Killian wrote:BlindRef wrote:I don't think Michigan fans were cheering...i think that stuff can be misread.
They cheered when Darius Walker was hurt this year. They cheered last year too. You could hear it on TV.
It's because contrary to what the spin has been for decades on this schools "Fans", they're truely mostly white hick trailor trash clingers on.
The theory being, that a Loser, a nobody, needs SOMEthing to cling to that's basically been a winner. (UM leads in alltime wins, and alltime winning percentage.) That way your average booz bellied shop rat, loser; feels like a winner. At least on most saturdays in the fall.
Bo also had a LOT to do with your basic UM asswipe "BOOING" fans. Bo turned a very average at best, program around. And ever since 1970, they've been the KINGS of the world around here. Just ask one of the "Arrogant Asses".
They forget that State has won more concensus NC's than them since modern day football was played. (Post WWII) And since MSU was finally let into the B-10, (When UM then had to start playing MSU in East lansing, instead of EVERY year at Ann Arbor) the series record is quite close!
Well; I can safely say to you all that MSU has finally turned that corner. John L. Smith is the real deal. His ingenuity is unsurpassed in the B-10. All he needs is a few more defensive dudes to start stepping up, and UM fan is in serious flush mode. Panic cuty! They'll be falling apart, as LLLoyd Carr "retires". OMG, MSU may be as good as us!!! WHAT!!!!???
But we're the
LEADERS, and we're the
BEST!!!, right!?
THEN what!? UM fags! Herman!? - Ha!!!
See all you shitheads tommorow afternoon. WIN, or lose. UM is still UM. They can rally on their pathetic season, and even pull a slight upset.
MSU 31
UM 26