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bray2 wrote:FOX is reporting it now. Delay seems to be very concerned about his hair.

mvscal wrote:This is a political manuever. It will be enough to bump Delay out of his leadership position while he deals with it, though.

This prosecutor pulled the same shit on Kay Bailey Hutchison back in the 90s. Not so surprisingly, he dropped the charges before trial.

mvscal wrote:This is a political manuever. It will be enough to bump Delay out of his leadership position while he deals with it, though.

This prosecutor pulled the same shit on Kay Bailey Hutchison back in the 90s. Not so surprisingly, he dropped the charges before trial.

mvscal wrote:Guilty of what?

This won't even go to trial.

Here's my first take on this indictment (I've only read the indictment and nothing more for now):

The indictment is three pages in length. Other than a statement that "one or more" of 3 individuals, including Tom DeLay, entered into an illegal conspiracy, I can't find a single sentence tying Tom DeLay to a crime. That is, there's not a single sentence tying DeLay to the contribution. The indictment describes the alleged conduct of two other individuals, but nothing about DeLay. You would think if Ronnie Earle had even a thin reed of testimony linking DeLay to the contribution, it would have been noted in the indictment to justify the grand jury's action. Moreover, not only is there no information about DeLay committing acts in furtherance of a conspiracy, there's no information about DeLay entering into a conspiracy. I honestly believe that unless there's more, this is an egregious abuse of prosecutorial power. It's a disgrace. I understand that not everything has to be contained in an indictment, but how about something!

DrDetroit wrote:Courtesy of Mark Levin at NRO:

Here's my first take on this indictment (I've only read the indictment and nothing more for now):

The indictment is three pages in length. Other than a statement that "one or more" of 3 individuals, including Tom DeLay, entered into an illegal conspiracy, I can't find a single sentence tying Tom DeLay to a crime. That is, there's not a single sentence tying DeLay to the contribution. The indictment describes the alleged conduct of two other individuals, but nothing about DeLay. You would think if Ronnie Earle had even a thin reed of testimony linking DeLay to the contribution, it would have been noted in the indictment to justify the grand jury's action. Moreover, not only is there no information about DeLay committing acts in furtherance of a conspiracy, there's no information about DeLay entering into a conspiracy. I honestly believe that unless there's more, this is an egregious abuse of prosecutorial power. It's a disgrace. I understand that not everything has to be contained in an indictment, but how about something!

It's hilarious that SYNW can be so confident of a guilty verdict despite having not read the indictment, not been privy to the grand jury testimony, etc.

Why does he hate America?

DrDetroit wrote:I wonder if Mikey, SYNW, et al will eat crow on T1B for being so quick to believe that DeLay is guilt of anything.

My understanding of the law DeLay is being indicted under doesn't even require an overt act in order to be convicted. :roll:

And knowing how many of these "serious questions" have ended up being nothing...well, DeLay will beat this rather easily, though, I suspect the Demodummies will play it for as much as possible with their media lackeys carrying the water for them.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

DrDetroit wrote:I wonder if Mikey, SYNW, et al will eat crow on T1B for being so quick to believe that DeLay is guilt of anything.

My understanding of the law DeLay is being indicted under doesn't even require an overt act in order to be convicted. :roll:

And knowing how many of these "serious questions" have ended up being nothing...well, DeLay will beat this rather easily, though, I suspect the Demodummies will play it for as much as possible with their media lackeys carrying the water for them.

Shutup, bitch.

Cicero wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:

DrDetroit wrote:I wonder if Mikey, SYNW, et al will eat crow on T1B for being so quick to believe that DeLay is guilt of anything.

My understanding of the law DeLay is being indicted under doesn't even require an overt act in order to be convicted. :roll:

And knowing how many of these "serious questions" have ended up being nothing...well, DeLay will beat this rather easily, though, I suspect the Demodummies will play it for as much as possible with their media lackeys carrying the water for them.

Shutup, bitch.

= DrD I hate it when you are right.

DrDetroit wrote:I wonder if Mikey, SYNW, et al will eat crow on T1B for being so quick to believe that DeLay is guilt of anything.

My understanding of the law DeLay is being indicted under doesn't even require an overt act in order to be convicted. :roll:

And knowing how many of these "serious questions" have ended up being nothing...well, DeLay will beat this rather easily, though, I suspect the Demodummies will play it for as much as possible with their media lackeys carrying the water for them.

Mikey wrote:The OL just called and told me she heard on the radio that the #1 Congressional crook was just indicted.

Anybody heard anything about this?

Mikey wrote:The OL just called and told me she heard on the radio that the #1 Congressional crook was just indicted.

Anybody heard anything about this?

Diogenes wrote:When did they got rid of that 'no political threads on mainstreet' policy anyway/

Mikey wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For some reason, the fact that DeLay and his minions are labeling Earle a partisan fanatic brings pots and kettles to mind.

On Wednesday, DeLay was indicted with two aides by a Texas grand jury, accused of flouting campaign finance laws by illegally sending corporate funds to GOP candidates in the state. Two months ago, Abramoff was arrested and charged with fraud in connection with a casino deal in Florida. On Tuesday, two employees of a company owned by Abramoff were charged with murdering the casino's former owner. Last week, the feds arrested David Safavian, who has been working in the White House, on charges of lying to investigators about a trip to Scotland with DeLay and Abramoff. Scanlon, the former DeLay aide who worked with Abramoff, is said to be cooperating with investigators, who are likely to file even more charges.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For some reason, the fact that DeLay and his minions are labeling Earle a partisan fanatic brings pots and kettles to mind.

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For some reason, the fact that DeLay and his minions are labeling Earle a partisan fanatic brings pots and kettles to mind.

And what does the fact that the same clowns who demonized Ken Starr for doing his job gloss over the track record of political prosecutions by this partsan hack bring to mind?

BSmack wrote:

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For some reason, the fact that DeLay and his minions are labeling Earle a partisan fanatic brings pots and kettles to mind.

And what does the fact that the same clowns who demonized Ken Starr for doing his job gloss over the track record of political prosecutions by this partsan hack bring to mind?

Let's whiegh that one out.

No alleged wrongdoing vs. Lying to a grand jury

:roll:

DrDetroit wrote:No alleged wrongdoing vs. Lying to a grand jury

Diogenes wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:For some reason, the fact that DeLay and his minions are labeling Earle a partisan fanatic brings pots and kettles to mind.

And what does the fact that the same clowns who demonized Ken Starr for doing his job gloss over the track record of political prosecutions by this partsan hack bring to mind?

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Lying about a blowjob

:roll:

Starr's investigations resulted in 14 felony convictions including the Governor of Arkansas.

That must have been quite a blowjob...

mvscal wrote:Yeah, he just managed to clip everyone around Clinton. Friends, business associates etc.

Suuuure Bubba wasn't up to anything illegal or unethical. Good thing for him he had the powers of the Presidency available to him and his wife. It sure made it easy to ignore subpoenas, stonewall the investigation and dig up dirt on political enemies.

To say this was just about a blow job is beyond even your accustomed imbecility and intellectual dishonesty.