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They used to be cute. The Oakland Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders, bad boys, pirates, looters, pillagers. Even the mascot is a bad-ass. The guy on the helmet wears an eye patch and he is smiling nonetheless. But when you are 0-3 to open a season you don't look like a bad-ass as much as just an ass.

The Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders' offseason was very dramatic. They signed free agent LaMont Jordan from the Jets for an ungodly sum of money. Last season Jordan averaged almost five yards a carry for New York backing up NFL rushing champion Curtis Martin. Jordan is a huge dude, and it always seemed as if it took three defenders to bring him down. For the first time since perhaps Marcus Allen, the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders entered the season with a bona fide stud in their backfield. Well, three games into the season, the stud is a dud. After running for 70 yards in his debut as a Raider, LaMont looks more like the son on Sanford and Son than a star running back for the Silver and Black. In subsequent games, LaMont ("You big dummy!") has racked up 59 yards against the Chiefs, followed by 19 yards against the Eagles. That seems like a mathematic impossibility considering every team the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders play must concentrate almost solely on someone else. Which brings me to the other bold offseason move made by the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders. Randy Moss.

If ever a player was born to be a Raider, Randy Moss is it. He is surly and selfish. He has a huge chip on his shoulder and he plays only when he wants to play. To be fair, he was without question the most talented player to switch teams in the offseason. Hell, he was probably the most talented player to switch teams in the last 10 years! But, as the saying goes, a leopard can't change his spots. Randy may not be a leopard, but he is still a punk. The same man who became a giant headache in Minnesota has become an Excedrin headache No. 18 in Oakland. Randy no longer talks to the media and, ala T.O., he wears headphones walking in and walking out of the stadium. When you are the most talented guy on a winless team why be cordial, right?

I am filing this story a little late because my 3-year-old son had a quarterback tryout with the Jets. It didn't go so good. The Jets staff told me he didn't seem to read zones as well as he should. I informed them that he is only three and can't read at all. They said, "Neither can Vinny Testaverde -- he went to Miami!"

Brace yourself Jets fans, the Brooks Bollinger era is upon us! It could be uglier. We could have bet on the Jets to win the Super Bowl. Or even worse, we could all be Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders fans.

I was in Las Vegas last weekend, and as is my custom I spent a fair amount of time in the sports book at a casino. I had some dough down on the Ducks of Oregon. I was getting 21 points against the Trojans, and with the Ducks leading 13-0 late in the second quarter I went upstairs to take a nap. I had a little more than a half hour of football and 34 points to work with. I was counting my money as I drifted off. When I awoke an hour later I realized what a fool I was. Twenty one points or not, I had committed a cardinal sin -- I bet against USC. Talk about a team being able to turn it on when it wants to! The second half of that game was like a fireman opening a hydrant. I lost. I lost a lot. I did, however, have all of Sunday's NFL games to make it back.

I didn't. I took a few bucks and spread it around. It seems that whenever I bet on a team, a memo automatically gets distributed to those players to immediately forget everything they ever knew about football, including how to hold onto one. As I sat in disbelief at how terrible I was at handicapping, I wondered to myself, Who could have it worse than me?

That, my friends, is when I discovered I was surrounded by Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders fans. I should have realized they were around me by the stench alone. The oh-so-familiar smell of unbrushed teeth and whiskey was overwhelming once I began to come out of my own misery. What The Jerry Springer Show is to television, Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders football has become to sports. But after Sunday's 23-20 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, dealing with Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders fans has become more tolerable. A little bit of their swagger is gone. They have lost a little spring to their step. Of course, losing a little spring to their step to a Raider fan means they are just slightly less likely to scream "RAIDERS!" in your face at a urinal.

Watching Sebastian Janikowski miss not one, but two field goals, made me downright giddy. To be fair, Janikowski is a very good kicker as well as the perfect Raider. The guy has been arrested almost as often as Bobby Brown and looks like he just walked out of a clan rally in Ojai. This guy isn't just scary-looking for a kicker, he is scary looking for an inmate! I guess they don't have much time to practice place-kicking in holding cells. How else to explain him missing two gimmes. On the other side of the field on Sunday, in stark contrast to Janikowski, stood David Akers. Akers looks and acts like an NFL kicker should. He makes field goals and does it with the flair of a door-to-door Mormon. I found it poetic that in a game decided by a field goal, the good guys won. I never have referred to the Eagles as the good guys before, and unless they work Al Qaeda into the schedule, I never will again. But playing against the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders makes everyone a good guy by comparison.

Watching Moss sulk on the sidelines on Sunday was beautiful. It epitomized what promises to be one of the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders' worst seasons. The franchise that ran class acts such as Marcus Allen, Art Shell (who was coach of the year two years before his dismissal) and Jon Gruden out of town, has opened its arms to folks like Moss, Warren Sapp and Norv Turner. Norv Turner? I have no memory of Turner being successful at anything. Even a nice guy like former coach Bill Callahan was shown the door. The reasons given for his firing last year were that he had "lost the team" and "was no longer reaching the players." Who would want to reach a group like this? Callahan was obviously not the right guy for the job in Oakland but I miss him. Maybe because he looked so much like Beau Bridges I found it comforting to watch him grimace on the sidelines.

Now it is Turner's turn to make the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders underachieve. Like all his predecessors, this should be a simple task. When you hand the opposing team 100 yards in penalties every Sunday, underachieving is money in the bank. Why do the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders always commit so many penalties? I figure the players must look into the stands, see all the criminals and start leg-whipping and shoving just to fit in. It's hard to play by the rules when every time you look up Darth Vader and a Gorilla are staring back at you.

Raider Nation is in total disarray, and I for one say hooray! No other team breeds such awful fans as the Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders. Anyone who tattoos his team's logo on his body deserves to watch them lose week after week. Any team owned by a grown man wearing a white jump suit deserves to lose. Here is a memo to Al Davis: Unless your first name is Evil and your second name is Knievel, you are not allowed to wear a jumpsuit! Have fun this year Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders fans.

Have fun cursing Kerry Collins and Norv Turner. Have fun drowning your sorrows week after week in bong hits and scotch. Mostly, have fun showing off your Randy Moss and the Randy Moss and the Raiders tattoo in the local jail. You won't be the only one there with one.

Jay Mohr is a fucking pussy.

The Assassin wrote:Jay Mohr is a fucking pussy.

RACK.


Fuck that cunt. Wheres the article about Patfan after thier team stomped his faggot squad in the super bowl? Or the article about the 3 previous fucking chokejobs and thier fans laughing and pissing in his face?



I laugh heartily knowing that the Eagles will never win a fucking thing.

Bwhahaha

It's pretty obvious Mohr was at the game isn't it? And much of his take is spot on, eh James? Does this gem ring a bell?

Have fun cursing Kerry Collins and Norv Turner.

Maybe the best lines though are:

Anyone who tattoos his team's logo on his body deserves to watch them lose week after week. Any team owned by a grown man wearing a white jump suit deserves to lose. Here is a memo to Al Davis: Unless your first name is Evil and your second name is Knievel, you are not allowed to wear a jumpsuit!

Bwhaha rack Mohr!

Holy fucking shit what you guys seem to find. His take was funny but not his career. Of course he said that in "PHILLY"!

Raydah James wrote:
I laugh heartily knowing that the Eagles will never win a fucking thing.

I laugh heartily knowing the Eagles are still in your dome almost one week after beating the Raiders to a fresh 0-3 start. Bitter much? I know you predicted the Eagles would win but to keep harping on a non-divisional team the Raiders happened to beat in a SB over 20 fucking years ago, shows how desperate you really are.

Mohr is a comedian not a football commentator so the very fact that Raider fan feels the need to react indicates what sensitive pussies you all have.

I'm sure our boy Jay had a lot of football insight to share with us.



Al is kind of old.
Randy is a bad black man.
The fans don't behave themselves.
The yellow flag is on the field.
The kicker is missing a lot.
0-3 is not very good.



Great hire, SI.

To be fair, Janikowski is a very good kicker as well as the perfect Raider. The guy has been arrested almost as often as Bobby Brown and looks like he just walked out of a clan rally in Ojai. This guy isn't just scary-looking for a kicker, he is scary looking for an inmate! I guess they don't have much time to practice place-kicking in holding cells.

My favorite part.

I laugh heartily knowing the Eagles are still in your dome almost one week after beating the Raiders to a fresh 0-3 start. Bitter much?

Your kidding me? Fuck dude how dense are you? I haven't seen one James thread calling you Philly fucks out. You'll be rooting for the Raiders this weekend if you had any clue about football dip shit.

Mohr is a comedian not a football commentator so the very fact that Raider fan feels the need to react indicates what sensitive pussies you all have.

Yes this is why Raider fan started the thread about the article.....fucking idiot! That you needed to post a comedians article on sports shows how bad Raider fan is in your head. Sore losers are one thing but sore winners shows the class the fans are in the armpit of Pennsylvania!

Raider fan has scoreboard!

Raider Loco wrote:

I laugh heartily knowing the Eagles are still in your dome almost one week after beating the Raiders to a fresh 0-3 start. Bitter much?

Your kidding me? Fuck dude how dense are you? I haven't seen one James thread calling you Philly fucks out. You'll be rooting for the Raiders this weekend if you had any clue about football dip shit.

Mohr is a comedian not a football commentator so the very fact that Raider fan feels the need to react indicates what sensitive pussies you all have.

Yes this is why Raider fan started the thread about the article.....fucking idiot! That you needed to post a comedians article on sports shows how bad Raider fan is in your head. Sore losers are one thing but sore winners shows the class the fans are in the armpit of Pennsylvania!

Raider fan has scoreboard!

Who the hell is this troll?

Number of times he posted in this thread? 2
Number of times he actually read the replies of his raidurination compradres? 0


Reread what James and the Ass posted. Read it again after you've removed your lovers nuts from your eyes and tell me why it seems like, based on their responses, that Mohr just bruised their collective vagina?

jiminphilly wrote:

Who the hell is this troll?

You will address him as Mr. Loco

RL is an ooooold skooler who's been smacking and breaking down games with the old crew of us (Nye, Scott, Wags, Paul, Joe6chins, Felix, Toos, Waring, Kutter, Carlspackler, Big Daddy, ect.) for many years now.


The man knows 10 times more football than you ever will. Kiss his pinky ring, move the fuck on, and consider yourself lucky he didnt blast off on your cunt self.

Raydah James wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:

Who the hell is this troll?

You will address him as Mr. Loco

RL is an ooooold skooler who's been smacking and breaking down games with the old crew of us (Nye, Scott, Wags, Paul, Joe6chins, Felix, Toos, Waring, Kutter, Carlspackler, Big Daddy, ect.) for many years now.


The man knows 10 times more football than you ever will. Kiss his pinky ring, move the fuck on, and consider yourself lucky he didnt blast off on your cunt self.

I don't address any Raider fan by Mr. With very few exceptions, I have yet to read any football take from a Raider fan that shows any true analysis or original thought so you have not earned my respect.

jiminphilly wrote:
I don't address any Raider fan by Mr. With very few exceptions, I have yet to read any football take from a Raider fan that shows any true analysis or original thought so you have not earned my respect.

Shut the fuck up, biatch.

The problem with you is that you think your fucking opinion matters. It doesnt.

My bretheren and I have battled and broken down games and matchups with KC Fan, Chargerfan, and Broncofan for too many fucking years. Its the reason why we all may talk shit on each other, yet we respect one another-and its the reason why you're continually pissed on at every turn.

All philly pussy has shown is the ability to accel at being semi-retarded dumbfucks who dont rate.

Sit the fuck down little pup, and shut the fuck up-what you say doesnt count.....and wont for a long fucking time.


Fucking dork ass bitch.

Raydah James wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:
I don't address any Raider fan by Mr. With very few exceptions, I have yet to read any football take from a Raider fan that shows any true analysis or original thought so you have not earned my respect.

Shut the fuck up, biatch.

The problem with you is that you think your fucking opinion matters. It doesnt.

My bretheren and I have battled and broken down games and matchups with KC Fan, Chargerfan, and Broncofan for too many fucking years. Its the reason why we all may talk shit on each other, yet we respect one another-and its the reason why you're continually pissed on at every turn.

All philly pussy has shown is the ability to accel at being semi-retarded dumbfucks who dont rate.

Sit the fuck down little pup, and shut the fuck up-what you say doesnt count.....and wont for a long fucking time.


Fucking dork ass bitch.

Broken down games? Who are you Ron Jaworski? You only push what you've read in your local fish wrap instead of actually looking at the game stats.

Case in point-

On Derrick Burgess

Raydah James wrote:Good, young player. If he can sack fucking vick and hunt his ass down all day (see: NFC Championship) then he is more than welcome to massacre all the AFC QB pussies while donning the silver and black.

How many sacks does he have this year? 1. How many tackles? 9. Those are some stellar numbers after 3 games for a player making over $3 mil a year who you said would be chasing down AFC qb's all day. He is on pace for a stellar year of 5 sacks. Did he even sniff Gimp McNabb's jock on sunday? The Raiders, as a unit, had 1 total sack the entire game and that was because McNabb ran out of bounds. Yet this was supposed to be a top 15 defense, right James? The Raiders D only has 2 sacks the entire year and 1 was from a QB running out of bounds. What a defense. :roll: :roll:

I have plenty of respect for most other football fans on this board because I've seen actual football knowledge displayed. However all I ever read from a RJ post is blah blah blah pussy.. blah blah blah fuck you.. blah blah blah Raiders rule!

Hey James- how many fucking years is it going to take you to actually same something intelligent? Your act is as old and lacks substance.

You are nothing but a talentless, myopic fuck.

Jim reminds me a little bit of Vinny Testaverde's career after that last exchange. While many counted him out after RJ's old school haymaker, our resident Iggle not only made it up off the canvas, he managed to land a few blows of his own.

Riveting stuff, gents ... but too close to call at this point.

jiminphilly wrote:
You are nothing but a talentless, myopic fuck.

jiminphilly wrote:
Case in point-

On Derrick Burgess

Raydah James wrote:Good, young player. If he can sack fucking vick and hunt his ass down all day (see: NFC Championship) then he is more than welcome to massacre all the AFC QB pussies while donning the silver and black.

How many sacks does he have this year? 1. How many tackles? 9. Those are some stellar numbers after 3 games for a player making over $3 mil a year who you said would be chasing down AFC qb's all day. He is on pace for a stellar year of 5 sacks. Did he even sniff Gimp McNabb's jock on sunday? The Raiders, as a unit, had 1 total sack the entire game and that was because McNabb ran out of bounds. Yet this was supposed to be a top 15 defense, right James? The Raiders D only has 2 sacks the entire year and 1 was from a QB running out of bounds. What a defense. :roll: :roll:

I have plenty of respect for most other football fans on this board because I've seen actual football knowledge displayed. However all I ever read from a RJ post is blah blah blah pussy.. blah blah blah fuck you.. blah blah blah Raiders rule!

Hey James- how many fucking years is it going to take you to actually same something intelligent? Your act is as old and lacks substance.

You are nothing but a talentless, myopic fuck.

You really are a fucking idiot of the highest caliber to pick this particular facet to argue about.

Burgess is the only one getting penetration on opposing QB's, and has made a huge impact that the box score wont show.

Anyone with half a fucking brain who has watched a Raider game this season knows that DB has hurried every QB he's faced numerous times in every game so far. In fact, without DB I can easily say 2 of those 3 games would've ended up as blowouts from our line not getting any penetration and our secondary getting torched (No secondary can cover every guy for 6-7 fucking seconds)

Even more telling of his presence is that fact that our faggot ass DC doesnt believe in the word 'blitz', let alone incorporating it. Hell, it took the dumbfuck an entire year to figure out we didnt have the personnel to run a 3-4. Given that timeframe, I expect to see our first blitz in the year 2021.

But I digress-Burgess was a great pickup, and while he doesnt have the pretty pro bowl numbers on paper, he has been the ONLY bright spot on our line on passing downs.


RACK him.


Whats the reasoning for your cantaloupe smuggling ass shitting out weak takes all over the place about your pussy team when you fucking know thier going to choke again?

I'd like to hear the reasons you think this season wont end like the last 4.....because honestly, this is the weakest fielded team you've had in said timeframe.


Fucking tard-you've got nothing to be proud of or running your cockcleaners about-your team hasnt won jack fucking shit......and never will.

Felix, im being cordial right now.....but rest assured that I will be raining on this gameless mangina motherfucker.


This fucklord has no idea what he's getting into.



:twisted:

Raydah James wrote: he has been the ONLY bright spot on our line on passing downs.

If that is true- that is not saying much... but I forgot- this is the team that has given up an average of 302 yards per game through the air. Face it-Jim is right- you over paid for Burgess. I give him two weeks before he gets injured and you lose him for 6 weeks anyway...

jiminphilly wrote: Mohr is a comedian

Link?

Jim Rome thinks he's funny, which automatically means he isn't- unless its by accident

BBMarley wrote: Face it-Jim is right- you over paid for Burgess....

After 3 fucking games you're making this assesment?


Tell you what you stinkcrinkle slurper-lets wait until the 16 fucking game season is over to start making comments like this.


Thanks for proving once again what a fucking cock gobbling moron philly pussy truly is.

Raydah James wrote:

BBMarley wrote: Face it-Jim is right- you over paid for Burgess....

After 3 fucking games you're making this assesment?


Tell you what you stinkcrinkler slurper-lets wait until the 16 fucking game season is over to start making statements like this.


Thanks for proving once again what a fucking cock gobbling moron philly pussy truly is.

Yes- after 3 games. You are the dumbfuck that made the statement he has been pressuing QB's, and he is the only bright spot on your passing line. Again- 908 yards over 3 games- an average of over 300 yards a game. He isn't pressuring shit- except maybe your ballon knot you vapid cunt rag.

Big Al paid an injury laden, no proven End an outragous amount of money because of the results of ONE FUCKING GAME. A game that he was only so good in b/c of the pressure Kerse was putting on the other side and rolling Vick to Burgess' side.

Here's one conclusion, that through every superbowl the Eagles have 0 wins and have been plungered twice! Karma for the piece of shit fans they have.

Thanks James for the kind words. See being a Raider fan is like a brotherhood. We will smack eachother but once you fuck with one of ours be prepared to get plunger raped!

Raider Loco wrote:Here's one conclusion, that through every superbowl the Eagles have 0 wins and have been plungered twice! Karma for the piece of shit fans they have.

Thanks James for the kind words. See being a Raider fan is like a brotherhood. We will smack eachother but once you fuck with one of ours be prepared to get plunger raped!

A raider fan calling philly fans a piece of shit.. that's funny.

Here's one conclusion- your team is 0-3.. you have no choice but to bring up history when talking about THIS season- because your team is almost as big a peice of shit as the fanbase.

Read the fucking threads douche bag- we're talking about THIS year- not what happened last year, 25 years ago... doesn't matter. But it seems when you cock pirates get logical things thrown at you... you open your cum crusted piehole spewing out bullshit, no solid football takes, then throw up the obligatory picture of trophies from the past. NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE PAST IN HERE. If we start a discussion about most succesful franchises- by all means- bring it up then. But until then....

But I do have to say- Mohr is a fuckin' unfunny douche bag....

BalloonknotBlastedMarley wrote:

Melt, faggot, MELT!





And nobody said anything about you being a piece of shit (complex much?), but the representing cunt philly base here are no doubt the most moronic fuckpuddles this board has seen in quite some time. I've dropped grumpys in the toilet with more common sense than you.

Smackless, unfunny, and altogether an idiotic bunch of whining, puffy vagdrapes.

And of course you dont want to bring up the past-you're whole franchises' existence is predicated upon beatdowns that would make a coked up Ike proud.


Continue being the nonfactor in NFL yearly-we'll all just continue not caring.

BBMarley wrote:

Raydah James wrote:

BBMarley wrote: Face it-Jim is right- you over paid for Burgess....

After 3 fucking games you're making this assesment?


Tell you what you stinkcrinkler slurper-lets wait until the 16 fucking game season is over to start making statements like this.


Thanks for proving once again what a fucking cock gobbling moron philly pussy truly is.

Yes- after 3 games. You are the dumbfuck that made the statement he has been pressuing QB's, and he is the only bright spot on your passing line. Again- 908 yards over 3 games- an average of over 300 yards a game. He isn't pressuring shit- except maybe your ballon knot you vapid cunt rag.

Big Al paid an injury laden, no proven End an outragous amount of money because of the results of ONE FUCKING GAME. A game that he was only so good in b/c of the pressure Kerse was putting on the other side and rolling Vick to Burgess' side.

Ahem ...Rack.

James can bleed from his pussy until the sharks circle the facts aren't going to fucking change.

Burgess may be Oaklands best pass rusher but he wouldn't start on many teams . Come to think of it he is so one dimentional he doesn't start for Oakland either.

As far as him being three games in the jury is out on whether he will last the season since he rarely does.

Everyone else around the league was laughing at the ridiculous amount of money a desperate and senile Davis threw at his problem.

They still are.

Philly's defense looked pretty good to me on Sunday. I mean the Faiders did start from the 40 or better pretty much the entire game and still had offensive problems.

Not looking like the Eagles miss that mad pass rushing demon too much does it?

Save your deperate attempts at spinning, the facts are the facts and you are an idiot.

In related events I heard on the radio today that the Faiders actually sold out a game. That can only mean one thing.....

That a lot of Cowboy fans live in the bay area.

There were fans wearing both Raider and Cowboy gear at the same time last week at the Niner game .

Sporting a Raider hat with a Cowboy jersey .

Yep , there were some Cowboy fans there . :roll:

1. Burgess has played 'alright' in Raider gear to this point.

2. Oakland overpayed a little bit for him, IMO.


A bit of perspective is in order when looking at him and at the Oakland situation as a whole.
For that, lets trace back a few years.

Oakland had a real nice run in the early '00s, winnng three straight division titles and twice playing in the AFC Championship game, once making it to the Super Bowl. Oakland got it's teeth kicked in in the '03 Super Bowl game and have not found an identity since. From that they have not yet recovered. After that game they attempted to keep an old team together to make 'one last' push to get over the top and it exploded in their face. They were OLD, SLOW, and INJURY PRONE in '03 and their coach showed his deficiences. It all resulted in a 4-12 meltdown.

'04 was the start of a 'rebuilding' phase for the Raiders. New coaching staff, lots of new young blood, etc. Result = 5-11. Disappointing, sure, but not all that surprising when you look at the turnover and the loss of MANY key veteran players of a high caliber.

So....off-season before '05 there were still MANY holes needing to be filled. Al Davis busted his ASS to do his very best to fill those holes to produce a WINNER, bless his heart. He brought in the biggest game-breaking receiver the league has had in quite some time. He also brought in the most sought-after free agent running back on the market. BOTH of these moves filled glaring weaknesses on the team. Another of the glaring weaknesses from '04 was pass rush. Derrick Burgess was available and Davis went and GOT him. Yes, he likely paid a stiffer price than he might have for Burgess, but the point is that his action was PRO-ACTIVE. He did what he saw as necessary to put a WINNER on the field. I find no fault in it at all.

You can't fill every need you'd like filled right away when you are 'rebuilding' as Oakland was/is. You put the pieces together one by one and hope that the end result will, in time, be greatness.

Davis speaks of WINNING nearly every time he makes a public appearance. It is not lip service. Lots of owners say the same thing, but their ACTIONS do not back up the words shitting from their mouth.

Davis has always backed up his talk with ACTION, and for that, I am VERY thankful.

He's got his faults, and his moves can be called into question, but one can never realistically question his motives.

Win, that's it.

There's still lots of work to be done. The Burgess deal is not the end. It's just another brick in the road. At this point I find no fault in Burgess, or his deal.

Raider Loco wrote: See being a Raider fan is like a brotherhood. We will smack eachother...

Link?

'duhfans don't smack on fellow 'duhfans, ever.

They can't.

It'd be like one Special Olympian telling another "dude, that 100 yard dash time of yours really sucked".

Raydah James wrote: You really are a fucking idiot of the highest caliber to pick this particular facet to argue about.

This particular facet is a clear example of just how unintelligent you are when it comes to football. You were on your hands and knees taking Al and Burgess in your mouth before Burgess had time to take a shit in you city. You tell me you've spent years breaking down games with other chumps on this board and you this drival about Burgess and the Raiders having a top 15 defense. Who is the fucking idiot?

Burgess is the only one getting penetration on opposing QB's, and has made a huge impact that the box score wont show.

The only penetration I saw Sunday was by Trotter through your offensive line. Burgess 'impact' on the game reminds me of a defensive end that once played for the Eagles. Remember Mike Mamula? He led the Eagles in ''almost got theres" He's now tending bar somewhere in Boston. Almost doesn't get you squat in this league, especially when you're paid over $3 mill to sack the qb.

Anyone with half a fucking brain who has watched a Raider game this season knows that DB has hurried every QB he's faced numerous times in every game so far. In fact, without DB I can easily say 2 of those 3 games would've ended up as blowouts from our line not getting any penetration and our secondary getting torched (No secondary can cover every guy for 6-7 fucking seconds)

What game were you watching? Burgess spent more time eating grass stuffed in his helmet then getting close to McNabb. He was a non factor, much like the rest of the Raider D Line. They had virtually no pass rush.

Even more telling of his presence is that fact that our faggot ass DC doesnt believe in the word 'blitz', let alone incorporating it. Hell, it took the dumbfuck an entire year to figure out we didnt have the personnel to run a 3-4. Given that timeframe, I expect to see our first blitz in the year 2021.

Nice deflection. What is telling is that you don't know jack about your football team. But then again, most games are blacked out so how would you know what's going on.

But I digress-Burgess was a great pickup, and while he doesnt have the pretty pro bowl numbers on paper, he has been the ONLY bright spot on our line on passing downs.

Bright spot? You wish there was a bright spot on an 0-3 team.

Whats the reasoning for your cantaloupe smuggling ass shitting out weak takes all over the place about your pussy team when you fucking know thier going to choke again?

Learn one thing about Eagles fans. They always show up to games. They never shut up. And they easily expose frauds like yourself who post bull shit predictions.

I'd like to hear the reasons you think this season wont end like the last 4.....because honestly, this is the weakest fielded team you've had in said timeframe.

What area of the team is weaker than last year? Think the loss of Simon hurt? It didn't appear that way against the Raiders did it? The Eagles are just as strong.. a little wiser and will be in the Detroit come February.

Fucking tard-you've got nothing to be proud of or running your cockcleaners about-your team hasnt won jack fucking shit......and never will.

Calling scoreboard because your team beat the Eagles in 1980 is like calling up some kid you punched in grade school and claiming bode. It might make you feel good but that grade school kid is now fucking your sister and making you his bitch.

And that's your whole game James. Run and hide in the 80's because it's clear you have nothing to look forward to for the next few years.

Raydah James wrote:
And nobody said anything about you being a piece of shit (complex much?),

Raider Loco wrote:Karma for the piece of shit fans they have.

Learn to read before you respond fuckstick

Raydah James wrote:but the representing cunt philly base here are no doubt the most moronic fuckpuddles this board has seen in quite some time. I've dropped grumpys in the toilet with more common sense than you.

Yeah- because the whole of T1B bows down before your fantastic football takes that contain no actual fact, just a regergitation of the pet names your boyfriend calls you while pounding your hairy bagel.....

Raydah James wrote:And of course you dont want to bring up the past-you're whole franchises' existence is predicated upon beatdowns that would make a coked up Ike proud.

Its not that I don't want to talk about the past- but when you are talking about your current day team and your only retort is this (and not just with Eagles fans- this seems to be your same response to the Chiefs, Chargers, and Bronco fans on the board) -

You really do look like a fuckin' douchebag...

poptart wrote:1. Burgess has played 'alright' in Raider gear to this point.

2. Oakland overpayed a little bit for him, IMO.


A bit of perspective is in order when looking at him and at the Oakland situation as a whole.
For that, lets trace back a few years.

Oakland had a real nice run in the early '00s, winnng three straight division titles and twice playing in the AFC Championship game, once making it to the Super Bowl. Oakland got it's teeth kicked in in the '03 Super Bowl game and have not found an identity since. From that they have not yet recovered. After that game they attempted to keep an old team together to make 'one last' push to get over the top and it exploded in their face. They were OLD, SLOW, and INJURY PRONE in '03 and their coach showed his deficiences. It all resulted in a 4-12 meltdown.

'04 was the start of a 'rebuilding' phase for the Raiders. New coaching staff, lots of new young blood, etc. Result = 5-11. Disappointing, sure, but not all that surprising when you look at the turnover and the loss of MANY key veteran players of a high caliber.

So....off-season before '05 there were still MANY holes needing to be filled. Al Davis busted his ASS to do his very best to fill those holes to produce a WINNER, bless his heart. He brought in the biggest game-breaking receiver the league has had in quite some time. He also brought in the most sought-after free agent running back on the market. BOTH of these moves filled glaring weaknesses on the team. Another of the glaring weaknesses from '04 was pass rush. Derrick Burgess was available and Davis went and GOT him. Yes, he likely paid a stiffer price than he might have for Burgess, but the point is that his action was PRO-ACTIVE. He did what he saw as necessary to put a WINNER on the field. I find no fault in it at all.

You can't fill every need you'd like filled right away when you are 'rebuilding' as Oakland was/is. You put the pieces together one by one and hope that the end result will, in time, be greatness.

Davis speaks of WINNING nearly every time he makes a public appearance. It is not lip service. Lots of owners say the same thing, but their ACTIONS do not back up the words shitting from their mouth.

Davis has always backed up his talk with ACTION, and for that, I am VERY thankful.

He's got his faults, and his moves can be called into question, but one can never realistically question his motives.

Win, that's it.

There's still lots of work to be done. The Burgess deal is not the end. It's just another brick in the road. At this point I find no fault in Burgess, or his deal.

You're right Pop.... he is alright- but I do think Davis threw too much money at someone who only ever had one season where he stayed Healthy all year and was only "okay" the other times... He paid based on his performance in the Falcon's game- which was good- but like I said earlier- was more a result of Kearse's gameplay.... I guess time will tell. I liked Burgess when he was here- I really do hope he does well- but I don't see it happening...

poptart wrote:1. Burgess has played 'alright' in Raider gear to this point.

2. Oakland overpayed a little bit for him, IMO.


A bit of perspective is in order when looking at him and at the Oakland situation as a whole.
For that, lets trace back a few years.

Oakland had a real nice run in the early '00s, winnng three straight division titles and twice playing in the AFC Championship game, once making it to the Super Bowl. Oakland got it's teeth kicked in in the '03 Super Bowl game and have not found an identity since. From that they have not yet recovered. After that game they attempted to keep an old team together to make 'one last' push to get over the top and it exploded in their face. They were OLD, SLOW, and INJURY PRONE in '03 and their coach showed his deficiences. It all resulted in a 4-12 meltdown.

'04 was the start of a 'rebuilding' phase for the Raiders. New coaching staff, lots of new young blood, etc. Result = 5-11. Disappointing, sure, but not all that surprising when you look at the turnover and the loss of MANY key veteran players of a high caliber.

So....off-season before '05 there were still MANY holes needing to be filled. Al Davis busted his ASS to do his very best to fill those holes to produce a WINNER, bless his heart. He brought in the biggest game-breaking receiver the league has had in quite some time. He also brought in the most sought-after free agent running back on the market. BOTH of these moves filled glaring weaknesses on the team. Another of the glaring weaknesses from '04 was pass rush. Derrick Burgess was available and Davis went and GOT him. Yes, he likely paid a stiffer price than he might have for Burgess, but the point is that his action was PRO-ACTIVE. He did what he saw as necessary to put a WINNER on the field. I find no fault in it at all.

You can't fill every need you'd like filled right away when you are 'rebuilding' as Oakland was/is. You put the pieces together one by one and hope that the end result will, in time, be greatness.

Davis speaks of WINNING nearly every time he makes a public appearance. It is not lip service. Lots of owners say the same thing, but their ACTIONS do not back up the words shitting from their mouth.

Davis has always backed up his talk with ACTION, and for that, I am VERY thankful.

He's got his faults, and his moves can be called into question, but one can never realistically question his motives.

Win, that's it.

There's still lots of work to be done. The Burgess deal is not the end. It's just another brick in the road. At this point I find no fault in Burgess, or his deal.

As a football fan I can honestly say that was a very nice post.

Poptart is the anti Rayder James.

James spews bullshit and homosexual rants followed by ridiculous predictions.

Poptart sacks up and tells it like it is. That was a perfect summary of Chokelands current situation.

This board needs more Poptart and less Faider James.

Then again James is always good for laughing at.

The funny shit about this thread and the other one Philly fan just had to make of James shows how much he and the rest of the Raider Nation is in your fucking heads. For some reason the Raiders were thrown against the world champs on opening day and not the Eagles who represented the NFC in the super bowl. Why was that? 5-11 and we opened up in NE after they beat the Eagles who's QB QUIT in the 4th quarter! You fail to mention how most of you predicted that we would be blown out in every one of the last 3 games and seem to call scoreboard when James or any other Raider fan comes in pounding our chest that we were just either a bad call or stupid penalty away from being 2-1 or maybe even 3-0.

Has anyone mentioned the last snap with 12 sec left McNabb turned around and spiked the ball backwards? Yes he spiked it backwards which should of been called a fumble but the refs blew the whistle before it hit the ground? Why didn't the booth review that since it was under 2 min and it was out Norv's hands to call it. Do you think if it was back more they would of brought out Akers to kick the winning field goal?

Either you hate the Raiders or love them I'll tell you this, you hate us more ( or the Cowboys) than you actually love your team. It's Thursday and you fucks are still going on and on about the Raider game or posting articles a comedian of all people had to write about. We aren't in your head? :roll: whatever!

All we care about at this time is thanks to Denver for beating the Chiefs cause now were only 2 games instead of 3 down with 13 more long season games to go!

By the way that was a good hit on Moss, but the only reason T.O. held on to the football Woodson fucked him up on was because he drilled the football into his fucking gut so hard that you could actually take Owens DNA right now and I bet he'd have PIG in it!

p.s. If you don't recall Poptart getting on WarRing a few years back then shut the fuck up. I'm done with you, on to Dallas! Fuckers have a huge fan base here in the Bay Area and 2 of my best buddies are Dallas fans who will be going to the game with me and 6 other bald headed Mexicans that will party together and give eachother shit no matter what the out come! War Raiders and War us being in your fucking domes after just week 3!

Raider Loco wrote: Has anyone mentioned the last snap with 12 sec left McNabb turned around and spiked the ball backwards? Yes he spiked it backwards which should of been called a fumble but the refs blew the whistle before it hit the ground? Why didn't the booth review that since it was under 2 min and it was out Norv's hands to call it. Do you think if it was back more they would of brought out Akers to kick the winning field goal?

No they haven't because, unlike raider fan, everyone else knows the rules of the NFL and a fumble isn't a fumble if the whistle blows.. the down by contact rule would have applied there had McNabb actually thrown the ball backwards. It is not reviewable.

What a joke you are. And this is the guy James has been breaking down games with for the past few years?

Holy dumbfuck, batman!

Rack poptart .

But Davis still ran the best coach the Raiders had in years since Art Shell or Flores .

And Davis' drafts have been suspect .

Had Gruden stayed , the Raiders would have had another Lombardi .

Rack Loco.


Eagle fan is still flailing away at everything and anything Raider ...... 5 days after a VICTORY.

Too funny, man.


psst.......you got a game with the Chefs this Sunday.


focus

poptart wrote:Rack Loco.


Eagle fan is still flailing away at everything and anything Raider ...... 5 days after a VICTORY.

Too funny, man.


psst.......you got a game with the Chefs this Sunday.


focus

Rack Loco for being an uninformed idiot? yeah, I guess so. :roll:

psst.. I don't play for the team. No focus necessary. I'll have the tv on at the appropriate time and I already predicted an Eagle loss this sunday..
Need me to state the reasons why?

You're post about the status of the raiders and Burgess was pretty good (in fact I recall you being cautiously optomistic about the signing which was the correct approach).. don't degrade yourself and start racking your fellow raider fans who are dragging the collective Raider fan IQ down dramatically. Cut them off while there is still time.