The Ugly and Inescapable Truth About America’s Gun Violence Problem

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Nothing says you have a little dick like carrying.

Maybe that's why all the right-wing radio commercials are dick pills.
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Wolfman wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:13 pm I "carry" a 9mm Springfield Hellcat in my car.
Fess up----how many here carry in your vehicle or on person ?
I'll carry on person when FL soon passes open carry.
I do not carry or keep a gun in my car. I just stay home near my safe.

I think Florida is Constitutional carry. Not sure, though.

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FiatLux wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:39 pm Nothing says you have a little dick like carrying.

Maybe that's why all the right-wing radio commercials are dick pills.
Idiot.
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FiatLux wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:39 pm Nothing says you have a little dick like carrying.

Maybe that's why all the right-wing radio commercials are dick pills.
OK smart guy. If you've ever been mugged at gunpoint, maybe you'd feel differently.
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Firearms are strictly forbidden on operational locations (pad sites). Safety officer will lose his shit if he sees so much as a cartridge on the floorboards. Historically, there have been too many disputes resolved with firearms in the man camp.

For that reason my service trucks and auger units are 100% firearm-free. My personal truck... is not. I carry a 9mm subcompact on my person, and the pickup houses two firearms. One is an AR style pistol chambered in .300AAC. 10.5" barrel. I filed a Form 4 with the ATF so I can put a collapsible stock, foregrip and supressor on this pistol. With subsonic ammo it's whisper quiet. Snapping your fingers is louder than this thing.

The truck also carries a DMS style LR308 chambered in .308 with a 22" fluted barrel and big muzzle break. It kicks like an infant and hits body mass at 800 meters. Projectile starts to tumble at 800 so shit gets unpredictable past that. I have a Nightforce MOA scope on it. Wish it was a milirad but it was cheap and has a nice target tree so I won't complain too much. I can count MOA just fine.

Contrary to recent accusations, I've never shot a black bear or primate with any of my firearms.
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:07 pm Firearms are strictly forbidden on operational locations (pad sites). Safety officer will lose his shit if he sees so much as a cartridge on the floorboards. Historically, there have been too many disputes resolved with firearms in the man camp.

For that reason my service trucks and auger units are 100% firearm-free. My personal truck... is not. I carry a 9mm subcompact on my person, and the pickup houses two firearms. One is an AR style pistol chambered in .300AAC. 10.5" barrel. I filed a Form 4 with the ATF so I can put a collapsible stock, foregrip and supressor on this pistol. With subsonic ammo it's whisper quiet. Snapping your fingers is louder than this thing.

The truck also carries a DMS style LR308 chambered in .308 with a 22" fluted barrel and big muzzle break. It kicks like an infant and hits body mass at 800 meters. Projectile starts to tumble at 800 so shit gets unpredictable past that. I have a Nightforce MOA scope on it. Wish it was a milirad but it was cheap and has a nice target tree so I won't complain too much. I can count MOA just fine.

Contrary to recent accusations, I've never shot a black bear or primate with any of my firearms.
Great choices!!

I run one very similar to your .300 blackout set up. Super smooth. Super quiet! Built other AR pistols in 7.62x39 and 9mm, just for fun.

More 5.56 and .22 builds than I can count. More shotties than I can count, too. I'm a big believer in using the proper tool for the job at hand.

Oh SHIT! Poptart says the FBI keeps an eye on this place. In that case, I can 100% honestly state that "I don't own a single firearm."
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FiatLux wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:39 pm Nothing says you have a little dick like carrying.

Maybe that's why all the right-wing radio commercials are dick pills.
Gun control is not about left vs right politics.

Gun control laws are racist, and are strictly intended to prevent ADOS from defending themselves. Always have been. Everyone else is collateral damage, but goes along with it as long as such restrictions are sold as primarily removing guns away from ex-slaves/freedmen.
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IB, sometimes I think you see racism where it doesn't exist.
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Today I learned about the Mulford Act. What is your opinion of it?

Your family goes back to before the Civil War. You can talk shit with your boys here about nigra.s and coloreds, but you know better than the stowaways and anchor babies about how fucked shit has always been, and why it 'had to be' that way to keep the status quo the others only recognize by its alleged absence.

The Constitution is brilliant precisely because it's so hypocritical in practice.

Slaves can't have weapons. Freedmen have to be regulated with their access to weapons as well. Only cucks willingly want to bow to Dessalines, right?
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StrawMan wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:06 pm
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:07 pm Firearms are strictly forbidden on operational locations (pad sites). Safety officer will lose his shit if he sees so much as a cartridge on the floorboards. Historically, there have been too many disputes resolved with firearms in the man camp.

For that reason my service trucks and auger units are 100% firearm-free. My personal truck... is not. I carry a 9mm subcompact on my person, and the pickup houses two firearms. One is an AR style pistol chambered in .300AAC. 10.5" barrel. I filed a Form 4 with the ATF so I can put a collapsible stock, foregrip and supressor on this pistol. With subsonic ammo it's whisper quiet. Snapping your fingers is louder than this thing.

The truck also carries a DMS style LR308 chambered in .308 with a 22" fluted barrel and big muzzle break. It kicks like an infant and hits body mass at 800 meters. Projectile starts to tumble at 800 so shit gets unpredictable past that. I have a Nightforce MOA scope on it. Wish it was a milirad but it was cheap and has a nice target tree so I won't complain too much. I can count MOA just fine.

Contrary to recent accusations, I've never shot a black bear or primate with any of my firearms.
Great choices!!

I run one very similar to your .300 blackout set up. Super smooth. Super quiet! Built other AR pistols in 7.62x39 and 9mm, just for fun.

More 5.56 and .22 builds than I can count. More shotties than I can count, too. I'm a big believer in using the proper tool for the job at hand.

Oh SHIT! Poptart says the FBI keeps an eye on this place. In that case, I can 100% honestly state that "I don't own a single firearm."
If you make a road trip to the high plains before we reach fire ban season I'll take you out to shoot .50cal tracers.
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Innocent Bystander wrote:Gun control is not about left vs right politics.

Gun control laws are racist, and are strictly intended to prevent ADOS from defending themselves. Always have been. Everyone else is collateral damage, but goes along with it as long as such restrictions are sold as primarily removing guns away from ex-slaves/freedmen.
Happy new year, IB. I hope you post more in 2025.

I had to Google ADOS: American Descendants of Slaves.

I do not disagree that some prior gun laws were specifically targeted at disarming or preventing the arming of African ADOS. But that does not seem to be valid in 2025. The biggest proponent of strict gun laws is the Democrat party. Why would the Democrats party threaten the rights of its most loyal and reliable voting bloc? And why would the Republicans party protect the rights of the Democrat’s most loyal and reliable voting bloc? It just doesn’t make sense to me.
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Geez…some people have no sense of humor.

I just made an observation. I don’t see a strawman or a false equivalence anywhere here. Actually it looks to me like you’re pulling another strawman out of your hat. Well done.
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This is an issue that I don’t see much value in discussing. Similar to abortion. Very little usually comes from the discussion, minds aren’t changed, and most just resort to name calling.

Someone raised LA or NYC likely has a completely different view than someone who lives on a ranch. They are unlikely to agree on anything regarding guns. Such is the way it goes.

I own multiple guns and learned gun safety and how to use one from an early age. I would expect some people to freak out that an 8 or 9 year old is handling guns regularly.

In Texas this wasn’t a Left Right or racial issue until the Democrats changed their stripes in the 20teens. (See also boarder walls.). In fact a Black Democrat from Houston was the author of the first concealed carry bill. Ron Wilson from Houston wrote and sponsored HB72 and coauthored and carried SB60 in the House. This passed back in 1995.

So until recently when most Dems flipped their position in Texas, gun control was discussed along the lines using two hands or a proper firing position.
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What do you think changed from before 1995 and now?
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I can shoot my 4 gauge pump action with one hand, but two gives me much better control.
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Left Seater wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:30 pm This is an issue that I don’t see much value in discussing. Similar to abortion. Very little usually comes from the discussion, minds aren’t changed, and most just resort to name calling.
And yet, Screw_Michigan hasn't posted in this thread, even to call us racist.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:25 pm What do you think changed from before 1995 and now?
You mistyped 2013.

But to answer you question the further decline of inner cities as the suburbs exploded in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Democrats long dominated Texas, but as the party shifted left, Texas Democrats left the party. They didn't like the move towards abortion as birth control, government overspending, and the growth of affirmative action. See Hopwood VS Texas which was a popular decision.

When these conservative Dems were gone, the Party was free to shift far left.
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Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:30 pm I can shoot my 4 gauge pump action with one hand, but two gives me much better control.
The fact you have a 4 Guage is awesome. But yes please shoot that with two hands.
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HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:48 am If you make a road trip to the high plains before we reach fire ban season I'll take you out to shoot .50cal tracers.
Thanks! Never shot a .50 before. My FFL has a Barrett but his back yard range maxes out at 500m.
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Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:30 pm I can shoot my 4 " pump action with one hand, but two gives me much better control.
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The Seer wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:32 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:30 pm I can shoot my 4 " pump action with one hand, but two gives me much better control.
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StrawMan wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:05 pmLouisiana consistently ranks among the states with the highest gun-related homicides.


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Roux wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:05 am
StrawMan wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:05 pmLouisiana consistently ranks among the states with the highest gun-related homicides.


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