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Rootbeer wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:03 am Is it normal for horses to get injured this often? I've never had a seat this close to the process but it seems like your cars are in the shop more than they're on the road, bro.
I'm not an expert on this. So I really don't know. It is my general understanding that they're pretty conservative with race horses, and I'm glad for that.

My mother had some horses back in the 1970s, and I vaguely remember a couple of them having to take time off to mend.

But again I really don't know.
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Old stats from the UK.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1604000083
Key to tracking the prevalence of injuries and the success (or lack of success) of interventions is a comprehensive method to manage racehorse inventory, horse location, and horse movement.
Was inconsistency in reporting a vet issue, or an owner reluctance issue?


https://www.winnerswire.com/how-common- ... se-racing/
Injuries are relatively common in horse racing, with studies showing that around 20% of horses will sustain an injury in any given year. However, the majority of these injuries are minor and do not require medical attention.
I think Roux should develop an exit plan with this company.Reach out to owners directly, they'll set on right path.
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Rootbeer wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:03 am Is it normal for horses to get injured this often? I've never had a seat this close to the process but it seems like your cars are in the shop more than they're on the road, bro.
Yes. Athletes get injured, but the best equine athletes aren't being parted out in micro-shares for saps. It's his money to waste, though. These aren't top of the line horses or trainers.
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Pie has a race next Saturday, looking forward to it.



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MISS AMERICAN PIE WON!

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The horse that was leading faded, and Miss American Pie had an extra gear at the end. Hell yeah!



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YES!

I'm very happy for you.
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The Roux stable didn't have any races for awhile, but that's changing. The race yesterday, and now two more on Friday.

Saratoga Warrier has won a race previously, and they keep saying that he should do better at distance. We'll find out, as this will be his first time running a full mile, his earlier races were shorter.

As for Intellectual, this is his first race. He's had some fast workouts but some slow ones as well. The trainer said that he is expected to run better on the turf (this race is on the dirt), and I'm not sure why they think he will be a turf horse. Yes, I will make a small bet on him, but it will be a pleasant surprise if he makes the board in his first race.


Saratoga Warrior Entry Update

Saratoga Warrior is in for next Friday at Aqueduct. He’ll be the #7 in a field of 8 carded as the day’s 6th race. Post time is 3:34 p.m. ET. Note that while this is a starter/optional claimer, Saratoga Warrior is not in for the claiming tag.
Intellectual Entry Update

Intellectual is officially entered for his debut on Friday, Feb. 14 at Aqueduct. He’ll be the #1 as part of a coupled entry with Total Silence (also owned by our partner on Intellectual, Reeves Thoroughbred Racing). Intellectual will break from the six hole in the day’s eighth and final race. Post time is 4:38 p.m. ET. Note that he is in for a $40K claiming tag in this spot, but it would be pretty surprising for him to get claimed.
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Cool! Congratulations on the W.
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Congrats.

Mrs Seater and I are planning to use some of the life insurance proceeds from her Dad’s passing to buy into a horse syndicate. We don’t really need the money, so this seems fun use of a small bit of it. Her Dad was a horse fan. He didn’t gamble, but he loved horses. He never had the means or land to have his own, but he had plenty of friends who had them and he rode often and volunteered with a mounted search and rescue group. He also loved to deer hunt from horseback.
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Left Seater wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:08 pm deer hunt from horseback.
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Left Seater wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:08 pm buy into a horse syndicate.
That sounds more significant and more expensive than what I'm doing. But it also sounds like if you get onto the right horse, then you could actually make some money. This has been fun for me, and should y'all buy into a syndicate, I hope you post about it here.



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Miss American Pie Post-Race Report

Miss American Pie exited yesterday’s maiden-breaking win in good order, reports the Clement barn. Her Beyer Speed Figure came back a 58—not quite as quick as we might’ve expected, but with a lightly raced horse, figures only mean so much, and we do believe she has further room for improvement.
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Race day! Both Saratoga Warrier and Intellectual have tough races today, according to a preview I listened to.

In SW's race, the horses to beat are Arcadian and McAfee. McAfee's trainer is aiming to enter him in the Wood Memorial (which is a Derby prep race) and then hopefully the Derby. Strong competition, and in all likelihood McAfee will win this race easily.

It is Intellectual's first race so you never know what to expect. But I'm still betting on both of them
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Damnit. Saratoga Warrier has been scratched today.
Saratoga Warrior Scratched

Saratoga Warrior has unfortunately been scratched from his scheduled start at Aqueduct today. Upon arriving to the barn this morning, the Gargan team noticed some inflammation in his leg and, along with the recommendation of the state vet, elected to scratch. Danny thinks that it can be attributed to the salt content in the training track at Belmont Park, and it is more of a nuisance than an actual problem. This is no doubt very frustrating, but all we can do is be patient and make sure he's 100% before getting him back into another race.

But Intellectual is still on for his first race.
Good Luck Intellectual!

Intellectual gets his racing career underway in the finale at the Big A this afternoon. Post time is 4:38 p.m. ET for Race 8, which looks like a wide-open affair with many ways to go. Two major contenders, including Intellectual's coupled entrymate, have been scratched. We admittedly don’t quite know what to expect from Intellectual here, but we’ll learn a lot more about him this afternoon. Best of luck, and click here for the race financials.
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Roux wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:34 pm But Intellectual is still on for his first race.

If he loses, he'll give you a really good reason why. Unless it's a psych-out, he's actually really stupid and they're trying to intimidate the other horses.
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Dr_Phibes wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:19 pm
Roux wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:34 pm But Intellectual is still on for his first race.

If he loses, he'll give you a really good reason why. Unless it's a psych-out, he's actually really stupid and they're trying to intimidate the other horses.
The post-race presser must be a load of fun. He's up there in his Neil Degrasse Tyson voice,

"The straights were quite the scene today, I'd say. Fairweather Friend certainly has an artisinal gait. Like a native New Yorker blithely navigating a sea of mixed tape salesmen and fake rolex dealers without making eye contact. He slipped between second and third like pythagreous making a tetrahedon. Mmmnyugh, mmmnyugh."
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Donnie Baker's Ghost wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:37 am
The post-race presser must be a load of fun. He's up there in his Neil Degrasse Tyson voice,

"The straights were quite the scene today, I'd say. Fairweather Friend certainly has an artisinal gait. Like a native New Yorker blithely navigating a sea of mixed tape salesmen and fake rolex dealers without making eye contact. He slipped between second and third like pythagreous making a tetrahedon. Mmmnyugh, mmmnyugh."
RACK :lol:


- 'What happened out there today, Intellectual?'

- 'I sacrificed my usual horizontal traversal of obstacles for pure vertical movement. When my comically fat jockey fell off, the race became an ironic parody of late stage capitalism for the betting public.'
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Dr_Phibes wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:12 am 'What happened out there today, Intellectual?'

What happened was that he got his ass kicked. I didn't get a chance to watch the race, but here's what they sent us:
Intellectual Race Recap

Intellectual did not show much in his debut this afternoon. He broke decently and was up with the pack for a few strides, but then dropped back abruptly while spinning his wheels and was not heard from again after that. He did finish the race, passing one foe late, and was NOT claimed. There’s always been a strong possibility that he was going to prefer turf, and we do feel today’s poor showing was further evidence of that—along with him perhaps wanting more ground, and/or just not having much ability. Grass racing does not start up again in New York until April, so we’ll have to determine what the best course of action will be in the meantime, but we’d like to see him on the grass before drawing any definitive conclusions. We’ll huddle up with the Clement barn in the coming weeks and decide what makes the most sense next.
Intellectual may be smart, but he ain't fast. :lol:
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...and/or just not having much ability.

That doesn't bode well.
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No it doesn't. It would not surprise me if the horse gets sold. Maybe they will give him one more chance to see if he can perform on the turf.

But this is a business, and the horses that can't at least contribute to their upkeep don't last very long. Intellectual better show improvement, or he might end up pulling carriages full of tourists on the streets of NYC.
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Perhaps his name should be changed from Intellectual to Elmer's...
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Beautiful horse, though. One of the things I've learned from my daughter's horse adventure is the difference in athleticism between animals-she's got a dandy, soon to be 6 year old Morgan that is coming into her own. Might never be more than a trail riding buddy; she'll be good at that because she can go all day, but if she chooses to compete a little in English riding events, she'll be good at that.

Of course, when this started years ago, dad was hoping this would somehow benefit me, like kid packing dad's camping gear deep into the woods for him, but noooooooo...she wanted to ride English which led a sad lump in my throat and a reach for my wallet. Fortunately, her 'coach' is a former teacher and very cost conscious so we've managed to sort of run the middle in terms of cost of horse, gear, etc., because as you know can spend as much money as you want or have on this sport. I thought this was going to be a 'nose in the air crowd' but have found these folks to be universally helpful and encouraging, particularly for young riders.
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You've got a daughter that is into it? That's great, man. She will have lifelong memories of that, take photos and then take even more photos. All too soon she will grow up. I'd give anything to have my daughters be young again.
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Roux wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 2:39 pm You've got a daughter that is into it? That's great, man. She will have lifelong memories of that, take photos and then take even more photos. All too soon she will grow up. I'd give anything to have my daughters be young again.
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Dr_Phibes wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 5:12 amcomically fat jockey
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HighHard1 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 1:55 pm ...and/or just not having much ability.

That doesn't bode well.
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