RACK THE CHIEFS

[Raydah James]

Your motherfucking team OWNS the Raiders.


RACK you cunts for the win.

[Sirfindafold]

you are one whiney pussy motherfucker.

[orcinus]

Rack James for being the lone Raider fan to sack up.

[poptart]

Nice division road win, Chef fan.

Your team did ya proud tonight.

KC won the turnover battle and they were more efficient on offense than the Raiders. They basically took care of business a little bit better than the home team.

If you want me to lick your dog's nutsack it's out of the question.

[War Wagon]

Your motherfucking team OWNS the Raiders.

Good enough.

I'm not gonna' run any scoreboard smack because frankly I don't think we played all that well and just barely escaped with a victory. I'll take it though. I don't care how fugly it was, a division road win is something to be proud of, even if it was partially a gift.

Unbelievable the difference not having a Willie Roaf on the left side makes from both a run blocking and a pass protection standpoint. The Chiefs offense looks much more in sync with #77 on the field.

As for the Raiders, they looked better than the Blots and the Mules did yesterday, so at least you have that going for you.

Props on sacking up, James. I know how hard you must be gritting your dick polishers right about now. :P

[orcinus]

Must have missed that in the midst of your Collins rants, pop.

Either that, or I wanted to see if I could troll it out of you one more time.

Norv's the kid that got all the cool toys on Christmas yet never bothered to read the instruction manuals.

Lost your team looks.

[Raydah James]

you are one whiney pussy motherfucker.

Make your time, vaglip.


Show me anything to the contrary of the truth in my statement and i'll save you from getting beat the fuck down by me.

[KUTTER]

I hate to say this, but the Raiders got jobbed on the Moss TD/pass interference call. That was the most ridiculous call by an official I have EVER seen. RACK Sterling Sharpe for calling it right -- the bigger guy got flagged because the little guy whined about a pushoff that never occurred. That play changed the game.

[SunCoastSooner]

I'd gloat but I don't spend enough time in here do so.

Rack you James for sacking up and taking it like the woman you are. :twisted:

[JHawkBCD]

In other news, Sterling Sharpe and Randy Moss exchanged marriage vows Monday night in a private ceremony in the tunnels under McAfee Coliseum, following the Raiders' loss to the Chiefs. No photos are available of the event, but witnesses were quoted as having seen Sharpe longingly gazing into Moss' eyes as he proclaimed his "I do"s.

After a short reception with Raidah Nation in the parking lot, the couple departed for their honeymoon and is expected to arrive in Philadelphia in time for Oakland's next game.

[See You Next Wednesday]

I hate to say this, but the Raiders got jobbed on the Moss TD/pass interference call. That was the most ridiculous call by an official I have EVER seen. RACK Sterling Sharpe for calling it right -- the bigger guy got flagged because the little guy whined about a pushoff that never occurred. That play changed the game.

I would reckon about dozen more calls like that and Moss will be karmically even for all the push offs he got away with over the years.

[jiminphilly]

I hate to say this, but the Raiders got jobbed on the Moss TD/pass interference call. That was the most ridiculous call by an official I have EVER seen. RACK Sterling Sharpe for calling it right -- the bigger guy got flagged because the little guy whined about a pushoff that never occurred. That play changed the game.

I would reckon about dozen more calls like that and Moss will be karmically even for all the push offs he got away with over the years.

Randy Moss learned how to push off from Michael Irvin. Let the defender get close and when you leap for the ball, make the push off seem incidental.

[BSmack]

In other news, Sterling Sharpe and Randy Moss exchanged marriage vows Monday night in a private ceremony in the tunnels under McAfee Coliseum, following the Raiders' loss to the Chiefs. No photos are available of the event, but witnesses were quoted as having seen Sharpe longingly gazing into Moss' eyes as he proclaimed his "I do"s.

After a short reception with Raidah Nation in the parking lot, the couple departed for their honeymoon and is expected to arrive in Philadelphia in time for Oakland's next game.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

[War Wagon]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Yeah, let's hope whatever is afflicting those zombies is contained there.

I'm just glad that KC hasn't whored out the Chiefs home naming rights to the highest bidder. How many other NFL stadiums can say the same?

Long live ARROWHEAD

[poptart]

Can't pretend to know why they haven't whored it out, but I'll give Arrowhead a rack on general principles.

[BBMarley]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Yeah, let's hope whatever is afflicting those zombies is contained there.

I'm just glad that KC hasn't whored out the Chiefs home naming rights to the highest bidder. How many other NFL stadiums can say the same?

Long live ARROWHEAD

Actaully- word is next season the Chiefs will be playing in Summer's Eve Park....


The first 1500 fans will get a free douche

[BSmack]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Yeah, let's hope whatever is afflicting those zombies is contained there.

I'm just glad that KC hasn't whored out the Chiefs home naming rights to the highest bidder. How many other NFL stadiums can say the same?

Ralph Wilson Stadium
Soldier Field
Lambeau Field
Giants Stadium
Paul Brown Stadium
The Louisiana Superdome
Texas Stadium
The Georgia Dome
The Hubert Humphrey Metrodome
Sun Devil Stadium

Not sure if Ford Field is a sponsorship deal or a family pride thing as the Ford family owns the Lions.

[drummer]

In other news, Sterling Sharpe and Randy Moss exchanged marriage vows Monday night in a private ceremony in the tunnels under McAfee Coliseum, following the Raiders' loss to the Chiefs. No photos are available of the event, but witnesses were quoted as having seen Sharpe longingly gazing into Moss' eyes as he proclaimed his "I do"s.

After a short reception with Raidah Nation in the parking lot, the couple departed for their honeymoon and is expected to arrive in Philadelphia in time for Oakland's next game.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Raiders home field being named after a anti-virus program maker?

Good Call .

[Raider Loco]

Son of a bitch that was hard to take. Even with all those early mistakes the Raiders never gave up! This team would have been blown out last year after those bumbling turnovers in the first quarter. Kerry Collins just doesn't seem to lead this team, and how does a team respect a guy who quit on his teamates a few years back. You don't forgive a quitter!

Rack the fucking Chiefs though (throwing up now) That was a huge win and one less road trip in the division to worry about. It's still early and you guys were just dropping like flies last night with injuries. I'd take 2-0 any fucking day and they were both good wins. Trent Green was nails last night a true leader these guys want to play with.

[Cueball]

the truth
:roll:

[Red]

The Hubert Humphrey Metrodome

Who knew? Interesting bit of trivia, that.

[KC Scott]

A great Read.........

Posted on Mon, Sep. 19, 2005



R E L A T E D C O N T E N T


Joe Posnanski


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• Randy Moss




Oakland can’t count on Moss

JOE POSNANSKI


OAKLAND, Calif. — Two plays explain Randy Moss. The first happened in the third quarter Sunday, with the Chiefs beating the Raiders by a touchdown. Moss, Oakland’s big-money wide receiver, raced by former Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Surtain. He soared over former Pro Bowl safety Sammy Knight. He pulled the ball in, ran away from the defenders, 64 yards in 11 seconds. He scored the tying touchdown.

He was Superman.

The second play happened in the fourth quarter with the Chiefs up by a field goal. It was third and 7. Moss, Oakland’s big-money wide receiver, ran precisely 6 yards, cut to the sideline, caught the ball and eased out of bounds without even making the slightest effort to pick up the first down.

He was Superdog.

Well, this is what you get when you build your team around Randy Moss. You can always tell a team’s character by its star. There wasn’t much that separated the Chiefs and Raiders on Sunday night in front of a classic Oakland sellout crowd that featured a few thousand empty seats. The Raiders more or less shut down the Kansas City running game.

The Chiefs just outclassed the Raiders, 23-17.

The Chiefs won because Trent Green hit some key passes, because the Kansas City defense tightened at the end zone and because Priest Holmes, the Chiefs’ core player, got the first down that put the game away.

More, though, the Chiefs came into Oakland and won because the Raiders have absolutely no idea what to do with Randy Moss. They were so thrilled to get him. Moss jerseys sold in Oakland. People were dreaming Super Bowl. There are some, even with the Raiders 0-2, still dreaming Super Bowl.

Let me tell you: Randy Moss is the dancing frog from the cartoon. You’re sure he’ll make you millions. But when the lights are on, he clams up.

Oh, Moss will get his numbers: The guy’s one of the great talents to ever play professional football. Sunday, Moss caught five balls for 127 yards and that special touchdown. Another touchdown was taken away by an offensive pass-interference call that was, let’s just call it, questionable. He was, without a doubt, the focal point of the game.

But the Raiders were down six points with about 5 minutes left. They started at midfield. They ran nine plays to win the game — four of those from the shadow of the Kansas City end zone.

Here’s what they did: They threw to Jerry Porter three times. They tried to get the ball into the hands of running back LaMont Jordan six times.

And they did not throw the ball to Randy Moss once.

Why? Well, there were different opinions on that.

Opinion 1: Good Chiefs defense: “We did a pretty good job covering him,” Knight said.

Opinion 2: There were other open receivers. “I guess they didn’t want to force the ball into him,” Surtain said.

Opinion 3: The Raiders don’t know what they’re doing. “Yeah, I was surprised they didn’t throw to him,” Chiefs safety Greg Wesley said.

I have a fourth opinion. The Raiders coaches and quarterback Kerry Collins have no idea whether they can count on Randy Moss. They know he might do something amazing, something you’ve never seen before. And they know he might stop running in the middle of his pattern for no reason at all. And since they can’t count on him, they didn’t.

Look: Chiefs president/general manager/CEO/godfather of soul Carl Peterson was watching Moss a lot during the game. He noticed, as all of us noticed, that when the ball wasn’t going his way, Moss would take two steps and stop.

After the game, several Chiefs players were laughing about how Moss constantly waves his hand while he’s running his patterns — “I’m open!” he seems to be shouting — the way the annoying kid on the playground does.

It’s one thing to be an individual. It’s one thing to want the ball. It’s one thing to even care more about your own personal stats than you do victory.

But what makes Moss so difficult is, when it came down to it, the Raiders did not know what to expect from Moss. It was fourth down at the Chiefs’ 10, game on the line, and the Raiders called timeout. Collins went to the sideline. He came back out, Moss was lined up to the left, the ball was snapped. Everybody in the stadium was looking at Moss. Everybody except one guy. Collins never even gave Moss a passing glance. He looked right the whole way, tried to squeeze a pass in to Porter. The ball was knocked away, almost intercepted.

The Chiefs’ offense came on the field. The Chiefs gave the ball to their longtime star, Priest Holmes. He gained 2. Then he gained 14. That was a first down. That was the ballgame.

That’s a player you can count on.

“Randy Moss is a special player,” Knight would say, and that’s a good word. Special. He can do special things. But in the 0-2 Raiders’ locker room, Moss wasn’t talking. He had a Raiders bodyguard keeping people away. He’s a special guy

[jidar]

As usual, a damned fine article from Posnanski.

[poptart]

Piece of shit article that would not have been written had the league not taken the other Moss td away.

He lit KC up and yet here cums Chef fan pasting this shit up in here.

Go fuck yourselves, shitheads.

Moss envy.

[KC Scott]

Piece of shit article that would not have been written had the league not taken the other Moss td away.

He lit KC up and yet here cums Chef fan pasting this shit up in here.

Go fuck yourselves, shitheads.

Moss envy.

Sin,

6 yard Out route on 3rd and 7

[Raydah James]

Moss fucking abused the cheifs at will-no ifs, ands or buts.



Bottom line: Raye and Carrie are the only fucking cunts that can stop him-and they're doing a great job so far.



The rest is a moot point. We fucking suck and arent winning dick as long as these 2 faggots are employed by Alcula.



The Article doesnt bother me-i've seen worse shit written about better teams we've fielded over the years, and everybody is entitled to thier opinion (no matter how shitty or weak it may be).

[poptart]

K.Collins pass to R.Moss to KC 15 for 18 yards (S.Knight).

K.Collins pass to R.Moss to OAK 49 for 21 yards (S.Knight).

K.Collins pass to R.Moss for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on OAK-R.Moss, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at KC 6 - No Play. :roll: x infinity

K.Collins pass to R.Moss pushed ob at KC 49 for 18 yards (D.McCleon).

K.Collins pass to R.Moss for 64 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

K.Collins pass to R.Moss pushed ob at OAK 39 for 6 yards (P.Surtain).



6 receptions for 133 yds, 2 tds

Moss got off on KC, duh.

[Nixhex]

K.Collins pass to R.Moss for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on OAK-R.Moss, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at KC 6 - No Play. :roll: x infinity

.

Good teams overcome bad calls. Don't think for one fucking second the Chiefs were'nt on the receiving end of some bad calls/no calls in that game. Hell the Chiefs tried to hand the Raiders the game with the late fumble by Parker. Boo fucking hoo!

5 straight bitches!

[jiminphilly]

Randy Moss learned how to push off from Michael Irvin. Let the defender get close and when you leap for the ball, make the push off seem incidental.

There wasn't even any incidental contact on the play. It was a bad call.

Period. EOS.

I was not addressing that specific play. It was a bad call.

[BSmack]

Randy Moss learned how to push off from Michael Irvin. Let the defender get close and when you leap for the ball, make the push off seem incidental.

There wasn't even any incidental contact on the play. It was a bad call.

Period. EOS.

I was not addressing that specific play. It was a bad call.

The refs gave it back to him on that 63 yard pushoff TD. Call it even and turn the page.

[KUTTER]

This is some crazy shit right here. Moss does more for the offense by simply being on the field than 98% of the other WRs in the league. Porter catches 3 balls per game from the subpar Collins if not for #18 drawing coverage away from him. There were several plays Sunday night where Moss ran a deep crossing route and Porter ran a shallow cross in the opposite direction, only to have Collins throw behind Porter. Moss makes the offense go, no matter what team he is on. He is one of only two WRs in the league who can be considered "open" even when double covered. The other is also disliked by almost everybody, T.O. Moss was covered on the 64-yard TD and still scored.

Does anybody think that Jordan could find any running room at all if not for Moss being on the field, even if he half-asses a "route" on a running play? I got news for you guys. I watch parts of every game, every week, and one of the things I watch for is how WRs run when a running play is called. Guess what? They all dog it. Even Saint Marvin, Torry Holt, Hines Ward (unless he is cracking the DE on his side), Chad Johnson. They all do the college jog toward the CB.

Except for T.O., not one of those guys I mentioned can cause an entire defense to change the way they scheme from play to play. Give Moss his due.

[orcinus]

Jordan would benefit from Moss even more if he learned to catch the ball every now and then.

[Felix]

Rack KUTTER....

Jordan would benefit from Moss even more if he learned to catch the ball every now and then.

Quit bad mouthin our running back.......

[poptart]

RACK KUTTER is right.


The pinhead who wrote that piece is bagging on a guy who in 2 games has 10 receptions for 257 yds and 2 tds.......plus another one thieved from him.

Why didn't he slam LaMont Jordan for dropping 2 screen passes, one in the final drive in which Randy Moss cleared the entire side of the field for him. Jordan would have gone 20 yds on that play, maybe more.......maybe for a td....?

Randy's fault.


Moss is what he is. He's the best receiver of his generation, clearly on his way to the HoF. He's a gamebreaking receiver, a big play guy. I would compare him to Barry Sanders in some ways. On 3rd and 2, the Lions pitch to Barry.....the d-line gets some penetration and instead of bulling north-south to try to "gut out" two yards, Barry dances a bit and ends up getting taken down a 2 yd loss. Shit, Barry sucks. What a puss.

No, while everyone is waiting for Barry to rip off his next 60 yd highlight reel run he takes a few loss-of-yard runs. It's maddening, yes, but it's not Barry's fault. He is what he is....or was.

Moss is a homerun hitter. It's what he is. He isn't even close to what is "wrong" with the Raiders at this moment and that article was a fucking JOKE.

I always said that the Lions misused Barry Sanders. As great as he was, it was my view that he should have shared time in the backfield with a north-south sledgehammer type runner would would help the Lions move the sticks while everyone waited for Barry to bust off his next magical long-gainer.

Same with Moss. Oakland needs a Fred Biletnikoff type of guy, a guy who Collins can dial-in on to get the clutch 7 or 8 yd gain for a first down when they NEED it. Jerry Porter is not that guy. That's no slam on him either. The thing is, Porter is a poor-man's Randy Moss. He's a fairly big play guy himself. He's not a "route-runner." Ron Curry might have been the guy I'm speaking of, but damn shame that he's once again out for the season. I feel bad for the kid. Good kid. Talented 7th round steal. Damn shame.

Moss is a GREAT player and he is nothing but an asset to the Raiders.

Until I see otherwise, that is my take.

[The Assassin]

RACK KUTTER is right.


The pinhead who wrote that piece is bagging on a guy who in 2 games has 10 receptions for 257 yds and 2 tds.......plus another one thieved from him.

Why didn't he slam LaMont Jordan for dropping 2 screen passes, one in the final drive in which Randy Moss cleared the entire side of the field for him. Jordan would have gone 20 yds on that play, maybe more.......maybe for a td....?

Randy's fault.


Moss is what he is. He's the best receiver of his generation, clearly on his way to the HoF. He's a gamebreaking receiver, a big play guy. I would compare him to Barry Sanders in some ways. On 3rd and 2, the Lions pitch to Barry.....the d-line gets some penetration and instead of bulling north-south to try to "gut out" two yards, Barry dances a bit and ends up getting taken down a 2 yd loss. Shit, Barry sucks. What a puss.

No, while everyone is waiting for Barry to rip off his next 60 yd highlight reel run he takes a few loss-of-yard runs. It's maddening, yes, but it's not Barry's fault. He is what he is....or was.

Moss is a homerun hitter. It's what he is. He isn't even close to what is "wrong" with the Raiders at this moment and that article was a fucking JOKE.

I always said that the Lions misused Barry Sanders. As great as he was, it was my view that he should have shared time in the backfield with a north-south sledgehammer type runner would would help the Lions move the sticks while everyone waited for Barry to bust off his next magical long-gainer.

Same with Moss. Oakland needs a Fred Biletnikoff type of guy, a guy who Collins can dial-in on to get the clutch 7 or 8 yd gain for a first down when they NEED it. Jerry Porter is not that guy. That's no slam on him either. The thing is, Porter is a poor-man's Randy Moss. He's a fairly big play guy himself. He's not a "route-runner." Ron Curry might have been the guy I'm speaking of, but damn shame that he's once again out for the season. I feel bad for the kid. Good kid. Talented 7th round steal. Damn shame.

Moss is a GREAT player and he is nothing but an asset to the Raiders.

Until I see otherwise, that is my take.

Good call on Porter pop. He has shown flashes,but not the consistancy. We need a Tim Brown right now. Brown was the slot reciever that got the 10 yard completions that kept drives alive. Porter isn't a route runner he reminds me a little of Keyshawn Johnson in the fract he'll mae catches but never the big catch. T.O,Moss,Rice,Holt etc are the guys you go to in the clutch. with the exeption of the Denver game,Porter has not been the clutch reciever.

[Raider Loco]

You own us? Right, but that doesn't get you a fucking ring on your finger you dumb shits. We also have 2 more fucking rings you will never achieve. Where's that in the article?

Chiefs president/general manager/CEO/godfather of soul Carl Peterson

BAWAHAHAHA! How many rings has this godfather delivered to kc? Win a fucking playoff game!

GO RAIDERS!

[RadioFan]

We also have 2 more fucking rings you will never achieve.

You might try and be thankful Alice is 103, instead of 63, otherwise it will happen. Hell, it still might.

Here's the the Jerry Jones-Bill Snyder genetic biotox transplant.

War Al living to 113.

[jiminphilly]

Moss is what he is. He's the best receiver of his generation....

Debateable.

If Moss didn't take plays off, I might agree with you. Owens, Ward and even Harrison never seem to take a play off, block and block well when asked to. (Mostly Ward and Owens on the blocking).

[Aaron in Tucson]

First off, FUCK THE CHIEFS!

but congrats on the win, red drips.

Wags, I'll get your booty off next week.

Bitter? absolutely

GO RAIDERS!

[BSmack]

Wags, I'll get your booty off next week.

That didn't sound wierd at all.