Oklahoma Fan needs to come clean with the AD rumors

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:18 am

There are a ton of AD rumors floating and now they are catching the ear of other media people. Give us the low down. :twisted:

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:33 am

Thats not the rumor i'm talkin about.

Jim Traber is a local OKC sportstalk show host talked about his receiving some crushing news on AD

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:00 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:as everyone and their dog knows he's the #1 pick next year.

Wanna bet?

sin,

common man after what Carson Palmer has done in the NFL, and how RB's are a dime a dozen, do you really think AD gets picked before Matt? hell the question wont be is AD the #1 pick, its whether to take Reggie Bush or Chris Leak.. (Granted they both have to declare first) but I think both Leak and Bush get drafted before AD..

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:09 am

I dont think he meant #1 pick in the draft, Sooner fan has to know that AP is a true soph and cant go in the draft until after the 06/07 season

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:12 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:I dont think he meant #1 pick in the draft, Sooner fan has to know that AP is a true soph and cant go in the draft until after the 06/07 season

true..

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:44 am

Believe the Heupel wrote:Sorry-next year, as in AFTER next year. Though I've seen comments from gurus that would have had him the #1 pick this year if eligible.

Since 1980 there have only been 4 RB's drafted #1 over all. (Ji-Jana Carter '95, Bo Jackson '86, George Rogers '81 and Billy Simms '80) while there have been 13 QB's drafted #1 over all.. All im saying is, I think it would be really rare if a RB gets drafted #1 over all. the teams that usually draft #1 over all, have more pressing needs than RB.. This is by no means a knock at AD as I think he is going to be a fine NFL RB.. just not a #1 overall pick

source:
http://drafthistory.com/by_position.html

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:31 am

I guess it doesn't bode well when 2 of the 4 mentioned running backs were busts and another had his career cut short because of injury.

I think only Billy Simms was worth a damn.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:59 am

if Reggie Bush stays at USC for his senior year and then goes to the NFL draft you think AP gets picked before him?

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:10 am

Vito Corleone wrote:I guess it doesn't bode well when 2 of the 4 mentioned running backs were busts and another had his career cut short because of injury.

I think only Billy Simms was worth a damn.

George Rogers a bust? I think not.

George Rogers' career NFL stats. Suffice it to say that a lot of NFL RB's gladly would have traded careers with him.

Sims also had his career cut short by injuries, IIRC.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:04 am

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:I guess it doesn't bode well when 2 of the 4 mentioned running backs were busts and another had his career cut short because of injury.

I think only Billy Simms was worth a damn.
George Rogers a bust? I think not.

George Rogers' career NFL stats. Suffice it to say that a lot of NFL RB's gladly would have traded careers with him.

Sims also had his career cut short by injuries, IIRC.

Rogers numbers do not back up the draft position He was traded after 4 years to the skins.

I forgot about Simms Knee injury, it did cut his NFL career a bit short but in the beginning he was a total badass. I believe Simms still put in about 7 good years in the NFL which is above normal for a runningback.

Hell Earl Campbell played 7 but was used up by 5 years.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:07 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:if Reggie Bush stays at USC for his senior year and then goes to the NFL draft you think AP gets picked before him?

Hell no Reggie ain't going ahead of AD.

AD is an every down back with the size and speed to average 25 carries per game.

Reggie in the NFL will be a situational player.

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:33 am

Vito Corleone wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:if Reggie Bush stays at USC for his senior year and then goes to the NFL draft you think AP gets picked before him?
Hell no Reggie ain't going ahead of AD.

AD is an every down back with the size and speed to average 25 carries per game.

Reggie in the NFL will be a situational player.

AB, when I first read this I thought WTF? but after looking at reggies carries and stats, and then at AD's.. you are absoutly correct. with 2 inches and 10lbs.. AD is the more complete back. While Bush can do some things on the field noone has ever seen. he has never proven that he can carry the ball 25-30 times. hell in his entire college career he has only carried the ball 20 times once. (last week vs Oregon) the rest are mostly 12-16 carries. I think Bush in the NFL is a kick returner/posession receiver not a running back.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:32 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Rogers numbers do not back up the draft position He was traded after 4 years to the skins.

To this day, he holds the NFL record (actually shares it with erstwhile teammate John Riggins) for most consecutive games with at least one rushing touchdown (13). That alone says something about his producivity in short-yardage situations, if nothing else.

I forgot about Simms Knee injury, it did cut his NFL career a bit short but in the beginning he was a total badass. I believe Simms still put in about 7 good years in the NFL which is above normal for a runningback.

Sims only played four seasons, IIRC. One of those was the strike-shortened 1982 season.

Hell Earl Campbell played 7 but was used up by 5 years.

Call it the Bum Phillips Syndrome -- overusing a running back early in his career. Remember who coached Rogers in the pros?

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:34 pm

peter dragon wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:if Reggie Bush stays at USC for his senior year and then goes to the NFL draft you think AP gets picked before him?
Hell no Reggie ain't going ahead of AD.

AD is an every down back with the size and speed to average 25 carries per game.

Reggie in the NFL will be a situational player.
AB, when I first read this I thought WTF? but after looking at reggies carries and stats, and then at AD's.. you are absoutly correct. with 2 inches and 10lbs.. AD is the more complete back. While Bush can do some things on the field noone has ever seen. he has never proven that he can carry the ball 25-30 times. hell in his entire college career he has only carried the ball 20 times once. (last week vs Oregon) the rest are mostly 12-16 carries. I think Bush in the NFL is a kick returner/posession receiver not a running back.

In college, Reggie reminds me of Rocket Ismail -- literally a threat to score a touchdown from anywhere on the field, in any scenario. Of course, Rocket failed to produce at the same level as a pro, and I suspect the same will happen to Reggie.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:34 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:Yes, Billy Sims blew out a knee and his career ended early. In fact, I believe that was what led the Lions to spend their first round pick on Barry Sanders.

That and the ultra-moronic decision by the Packers to take Michigan State's steriod boy before Sanders.

Each time he'd torch Green Bay, I'd tear up.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:36 pm

Cornhusker wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Yes, Billy Sims blew out a knee and his career ended early. In fact, I believe that was what led the Lions to spend their first round pick on Barry Sanders.
That and the ultra-moronic decision by the Packers to take Michigan State's steriod boy before Sanders.

Each time he'd torch Green Bay, I'd tear up.

Actually, IIRC, it was conventional wisdom at the time that Mandarich would be the #2 pick. In fact, right around that time SI did a cover piece on him. It was titled something like "The future prototype for linemen."

I actually expected Deion Sanders to go ahead of Barry Sanders as well.

Cornhusker · Post by **Cornhusker** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:08 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Cornhusker wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Yes, Billy Sims blew out a knee and his career ended early. In fact, I believe that was what led the Lions to spend their first round pick on Barry Sanders.
That and the ultra-moronic decision by the Packers to take Michigan State's steriod boy before Sanders.

Each time he'd torch Green Bay, I'd tear up.
Actually, IIRC, it was conventional wisdom at the time that Mandarich would be the #2 pick. In fact, right around that time SI did a cover piece on him. It was titled something like "The future prototype for linemen."

I actually expected Deion Sanders to go ahead of Barry Sanders as well.

Ya see the bitterness, I refuse to type his name! (Well just this once.)

"Let the name of Mandrich be stricken from ever book and tablet. Stricken from ever pylon and obelisk of Green Bay. Let the name of Mandrich be unheard and unspoken, erased from the memory of man, for all time."

I believe that's what Sethi said in The Ten Commandments.

But ya, he was the most dominating player I saw play tackle in college.
I agreed with the decision at the time, but damn, what a freekin' bust and to watch Sanders, who inspite of playing for Detroit, was one of my all-time favorite players in the NFL.

(Side note, Sanders and Thurman Thomas NEVER beat Nebraska while at Okie ST. Nor did Gale Sayers (Omaha native) while at Kansas.)

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:12 pm

In the pro's Reggie Bush=Dante Hall

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:32 pm

Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

AD, who knows? He got hurt last year. Rumors are he's hurt this year. He may be one of those great talents that just can't hold up.

If AD has these nagging injuries the next couple years, his stock will be WAY down. I'd take AD over Bush today. Another injury or two, my money's on Bush.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:16 pm

What rumors are you talking about? I mean, since you seem to know a bit about them and all, "Vito."

the_ouskull

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:31 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

Eaxctly what I was gonna post. Reggie is way bigger than Rocket and Dante Hall. He is 6'0 - 210 and is all muscle. He will be a Faulk/LT2 type back. AD will be like Eddie George.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:20 pm

Vito Corleone wrote:Thats not the rumor i'm talkin about.

Jim Traber is a local OKC sportstalk show host talked about his receiving some crushing news on AD

You mean an aggie doesn't like OU

. Real Shocker there I've never heard Jim Traber pull anything out of his ass to rip on the University of Oklahoma before :roll: . It's okay because he has the most sports insight of anyone on the face of the earth, just ask him. Former OSwho QB who OU didn't want. Did he mention that he played baseball as well

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Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:37 pm

I don't know enough about AP to say whether or not he'll be better/worse than Bush at the next level. I do know that several NFL scouts have indicated that Bush will be highly sought after. I think one of the quotes was something like:

"No offense in the League today has an asset like Bush. The offense that gets him will tag him a franchise player and completely retool their personnel to compliment him".

Pretty lofty stuff. Can't find the link to this though.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:39 pm

OUInsider.com wrote: Stoops wasn't happy to be shooting down another rumor about his star running back.

"I have no idea what those (rumors about legal trouble) would be," stated Stoops. "A lot of times there are rumors that are false so I have no clue what any of those would be. Just like the issue that was in the paper last weekend, that's created by the media."

Stoops was then asked to confirm if Peterson was in good standing with the team and whether he would play on Saturday.

"Absolutely," he replied. "You guys don't bring me in to that. He's practicing as hard as anyone we've got here and he's in perfect standing with us and working his butt off and he looks great."

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:21 pm

AD will be a great back as long as those injuries dont pile up. I think he has an Eddie George build but w/ prob more speed. George was a great back but the 320+ carries a game took its toll.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:56 pm

the_ouskull wrote:What rumors are you talking about?

Pulled from TexAgs;

Every conceivable rumor imaginable is floating around here in the press, on the radio, and at the watercooler. He's disgusted with his teamates, the play-calling, the coaches, and on and on. Now there are rumors he is going to quit the team or transfer. The oldtimers keep bringing up Joe Don Looney and Marcus Dupree. A lot of sooners seem to be genuinely concerned. I think it's all BS. Peterson's got to be upset, but I don't think he's a quitter. It sure is fun to watch.

That's basically all I've heard/read this week.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:21 pm

Until I see someone show the sack to back up one of these rumors, I'll take them for exactly what they are...

...sad. I mean, when a proclaimed Tejas fan is pulling rumors off of an Aggie board to try to get at OU fan, it's a sad day in Whornville.

the_ouskull

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:50 pm

Here's one I saw on another CFB forum:

The rumor is that Kejuan Jones and Adrian Peterson are in some sort of ectasy scandal of some kind.... Dont really have many other details.

Well at least it has something to back it up. :roll:

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:04 pm

The whole reason i didn't mention the rumors is because all I've heard is that some sports radio DJ mentioned AD with Crushing news, yet didn't back it up. And don't act like all these rumors are false because I seem to remember a rumor floating that he was in trouble for skipping class, i also remember a rumor he was in a fight how did that one turn out.

Skull I think your real problem is that a lot of the rumors have proven correct.

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:59 pm

the_ouskull wrote:...sad. I mean, when a proclaimed Tejas fan is pulling rumors off of an Aggie board to try to get at OU fan, it's a sad day in Whornville.

the_ouskull

Untie the knot in your panties. I'm not trying to "get at" OU fan in the least. You asked "what rumors we were talking about" and I posted a quote explaining lightly what was being splurged on message boards all over.

:rollingmyeyes: drama much?

GOSH!

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:47 pm

It's begining to play out over the internet that it was rumor started by Whorns. Another shocker in this string of events :roll:

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:56 pm

i don't know--but i read a post on Tigerboard.com early yesterday morning (before there was anything rumor-wise) that linked to another CFB board (one that i'd never heard of) and the original "rumor" post that included drugs/AD was authored by an OSU fan--though the drugs in question were not the same as Killain mentions above.

the post was yanked pretty quick from Tigerboard. the author of the post cited "rivals" premium sources...but for hours nothing turned up on any of the OU sites--where there are indeed Rivals premum subcribers. so, that made me suspicious.

i still have the link--but it's not much to see and proves nothing. i will not post it on this board--it's pointless to contribute to unsubstantiated rumor. Or: help Vito scurry over to hornfans with it. ;)

is it possible there are problems with AD, sure. but, consider the sources thus far. and USA Today also lists Akim Millington as "questionable" this week--and he quit the team a month ago.

that's all i know.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:06 pm

Killian wrote:Here's one I saw on another CFB forum:

The truth was that Eric Wright, former USC starting cornerback, was in some sort of ectasy scandal of some kind.... They found 138 pills in his dorm room.

Well at least it has something to back it up. :roll:

fixed

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:26 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:It's begining to play out over the internet that it was rumor started by Whorns. Another shocker in this string of events :roll:

[It's all Bush's fault] We could have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids! [/Dripping with sarcasm]

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:30 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

AD, who knows? He got hurt last year. Rumors are he's hurt this year. He may be one of those great talents that just can't hold up.

If AD has these nagging injuries the next couple years, his stock will be WAY down. I'd take AD over Bush today. Another injury or two, my money's on Bush.

I think Bush will be a bigtime playmaker in the NFL and should go ahead of Adrian.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:46 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:It's begining to play out over the internet that it was rumor started by Whorns. Another shocker in this string of events :roll:

Everything I'm reading is that the rumors were started by okie state guys not Longhorns, we just happened to take it and run wild.

diT wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

AD, who knows? He got hurt last year. Rumors are he's hurt this year. He may be one of those great talents that just can't hold up.

If AD has these nagging injuries the next couple years, his stock will be WAY down. I'd take AD over Bush today. Another injury or two, my money's on Bush.
I think Bush will be a bigtime playmaker in the NFL and should go ahead of Adrian.

Thats it I'm calling you out, no sooner in his right mind would say what you just said. Your that Okie state poster who used to have a sig with a two naked guys getting busy. Admit it troll.

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:04 am

Vito Corleone wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:It's begining to play out over the internet that it was rumor started by Whorns. Another shocker in this string of events :roll:
Everything I'm reading is that the rumors were started by okie state guys not Longhorns, we just happened to take it and run wild.

diT wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

AD, who knows? He got hurt last year. Rumors are he's hurt this year. He may be one of those great talents that just can't hold up.

If AD has these nagging injuries the next couple years, his stock will be WAY down. I'd take AD over Bush today. Another injury or two, my money's on Bush.
I think Bush will be a bigtime playmaker in the NFL and should go ahead of Adrian.
Thats it I'm calling you out, no sooner in his right mind would say what you just said. Your that Okie state poster who used to have a sig with a two naked guys getting busy. Admit it troll.

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:50 am

Vito Corleone wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:It's begining to play out over the internet that it was rumor started by Whorns. Another shocker in this string of events :roll:
Everything I'm reading is that the rumors were started by okie state guys not Longhorns, we just happened to take it and run wild.

diT wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:Bush will do well in the NFL. He will be much like a Marshall Faulk.

AD, who knows? He got hurt last year. Rumors are he's hurt this year. He may be one of those great talents that just can't hold up.

If AD has these nagging injuries the next couple years, his stock will be WAY down. I'd take AD over Bush today. Another injury or two, my money's on Bush.
I think Bush will be a bigtime playmaker in the NFL and should go ahead of Adrian.
Thats it I'm calling you out, no sooner in his right mind would say what you just said. Your that Okie state poster who used to have a sig with a two naked guys getting busy. Admit it troll.

I've been fingered as OSUStud

DiT · Post by **DiT** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:27 am

Mace wrote:
diT wrote:
Vito Corleone wrote: Everything I'm reading is that the rumors were started by okie state guys not Longhorns, we just happened to take it and run wild.

Thats it I'm calling you out, no sooner in his right mind would say what you just said. Your that Okie state poster who used to have a sig with a two naked guys getting busy. Admit it troll.
I've been fingered as OSUStud
Don't try denying it, diT.......I know for a fucking fact that you've spent lots of time posting on the OSU message boards.

Mace

lol
now I've been fingered by mace

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:52 am

I was a huge Campbell fan back in the day, sucks that they put such a load on him that he couldn't last longer. He should have have been up there with the likes of Payton and Brown.