Tearing Down the West Coast Myth...

M2 · Post by M2 » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:01 am

In the Tahoe Daily Tribune???? Whatever... It's a very good read.

It assesses all the conferences since 1990 -- so we're dealing with current day. My favorite stat: In that period, only the Pac-10 has had every team end up in the season-ending top 10 at least once. That shows a lot of balance and no push-overs. no other conference comes close.

Here it is

m2

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:10 am

Of course, supporters of any conference could find numbers to prove their favorite conference is best.

Enough said.. TrOtS!

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:34 am

I bet you did a simular look at defenses the PAC 10 would be the only conference to not have a single defense in the top 10. Well maybe Washington might get one in.

Just like a Pac 10 homer to forget that defense win championships.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:39 am

I believe the ACC has also had 3

Georgia Tech
FSU
Miami

if Penn State won one in the 90's that would give the Big 10 3 with
Michigan
OSU
Penn State

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:54 am

Vito Corleone wrote:I believe the ACC has also had 3

Georgia Tech
FSU
Miami

if Penn State won one in the 90's that would give the Big 10 3 with
Michigan
OSU
Penn State

Miami has not won a national championship as a member of the ACC. Penn State has not won a national championship as a member of the Big 10. To include those two schools in their respective current conferences' totals is disingenuous.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:57 am

miami wasnt in the big east when they won

technically, USC's 2 and Washingtons 1 gives the Pac 3 national titles since 1990

I think what the reporter was going for is that no other conference has had the parody that the Pac 10 has had, Mtard just tried to turn parody into domminance

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:13 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:miami wasnt in the big east when they won

They won the national championship in 2001, while a member of the Big East. Their last national championship prior to that (shared with Washington in 1991) was as an independent.

Nolesy · Post by **Nolesy** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:39 pm

Stats are for loosers who feel a need to justify a point.

Sincerely, one sticker dude

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:24 pm

Big Ten should have 3 cause Notre Dame won in 1993, oh wait............

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:57 pm

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Killian · Post by **Killian** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:27 pm

Cicero wrote:Big Ten should have 3 cause Notre Dame won in 1993, oh wait............

If you can explain the benefits of ND joining the Big 10, or why they lost the NC in '89 and '93, feel free. Until then, you're quickly trying to add yourself to the bitch race.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:57 pm

but then would the SEC be the daddy since they have had 4 NC's in that 15 year period...which is 27%???

no other conference has 4 total NC's...as a whole conference...not the new Big 10 in 93 and the new ACC and the Big 12...just straight up how the conferences were...

just sayin...

keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:10 pm

The whole argument is trash when he put Minnesota in the same class as Baylor and Wake Forest.

If you are going to trash the Big Ten, stick with Indiana.

And, the Pac 10 has the only school in either the Big Ten or Pac 10 never to go to the Rose Bowl in Arizona.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:42 pm

BlindRef wrote:The whole argument is trash when he put Minnesota in the same class as Baylor and Wake Forest.

If you are going to trash the Big Ten, stick with Indiana.

And, the Pac 10 has the only school in either the Big Ten or Pac 10 never to go to the Rose Bowl in Arizona.

ha ha Texas beat Arizona to the Rose Bowl

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:45 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:but then would the SEC be the daddy since they have had 4 NC's in that 15 year period...which is 27%???

no other conference has 4 total NC's...as a whole conference...not the new Big 10 in 93 and the new ACC and the Big 12...just straight up how the conferences were...

just sayin...

keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...

Actually the Big 12/8 has 5 because Nebraska has 3.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:09 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:but then would the SEC be the daddy since they have had 4 NC's in that 15 year period...which is 27%???

no other conference has 4 total NC's...as a whole conference...not the new Big 10 in 93 and the new ACC and the Big 12...just straight up how the conferences were...

just sayin...

keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...

Hey your melting The Seer who just can't come to grips that maybe the SEC IS the best conference.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:41 pm

its kind of irrelevent to argue a team or conferences strength over a 15 year time span, anything more than 3-4 years ago should be saved for an arguement about tradition, not strength

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:01 am

buckeye_in_sc wrote:
keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...

r
Only a tard would think I wrote this...

the truth

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:24 am

m2 wrote:
buckeye_in_sc wrote:
keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...
Only a tard would think I wrote this article...

Rack the guy who wrote it...

m2

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:26 am

m2 wrote: Chiming in, pentatonically

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buckeye_in_sc wrote:

keep up the good work mTard...you and Jon will make a lovely bride and groom...

r
Only a tard would think I wrote this...

the truth

and only a tard like you would keep posting nonsensical drivel regarding the PAC 10...i mean it was 19FUCKING90...on up...surely you could do better...go back to 1980 and see what the numbers are, 1960??? you see that is the difference between you and the rest of this board...you gulp this shit up like a carp in that dirty piss filled lake at the local amusement park, while the rest of us know better than to believe every story in out there...yes the numbers are there but it is an arbitrary start date...how about we go back to 188something and let Michigan and ND claim bode on all of us? How about the 1930's and 1940's and Army can claim bode...

and since your KAL eduated brain couldn't comprehend what I meant about keeping up the good work...well I'll let you think about it a little more...

i hear precious metal pricing is dropping shouldn't you be out scouring the local can depositories asking the bums if you can buy whatever is in their shopping carts to make your little wind thingies out of coke cans...?

Sky · Post by **Sky** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:38 pm

Well first of all, this article is a piece of crap. A few stats mixed in with bias and half truths.

As noted, you can makes stats say whatever you want.

However, if one could discount tradition and offered every AD from the major conferences the opportunity to play in any other conference, I think the answer is easy.

The Big10/Big 12/SEC/ACC all end up killing each other. Two or three teams are hyped before the season but only one can make it out unscathed. And sometimes no one makes it out unbeaten.

Yes, the Pac10 has parity but when they only have one great team every 3-4 years, it makes it a lot easier to run the "gauntlet."

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:54 pm

Sky wrote:Well first of all, this article is a piece of crap. A few stats mixed in with bias and half truths.

As noted, you can makes stats say whatever you want.

However, if one could discount tradition and offered every AD from the major conferences the opportunity to play in any other conference, I think the answer is easy.

The Big10/Big 12/SEC/ACC all end up killing each other. Two or three teams are hyped before the season but only one can make it out unscathed. And sometimes no one makes it out unbeaten.

Yes, the Pac10 has parity and when they have many good teams every year, it makes it tough on the rest of the country...

FTFY-NC