New Nominee

[fix]

Well that should be enough to qualify her nomination.

So is it true that she was supporting gay rights as far back as 1989, 16 years ago?
It would explain why she never married.

[Solo]

^It would also explain why Reid and Schumer aren't bitching about her nomination.

[Mikey]

Funny.

We're supposed to trust Bush on WMDs, Al Quaeda, seeing into Putin's heart etc., but not on choosing a SCOTUS nominee.

I guess it just depends which side your bread is buttered on.

[Diogenes]

His Duty is to select the candidate he feels is right for the job.

So he discharges this duty by choosing his personal attorney in the most shameless and stupid display of cronyism since Bobby Kennedy was named AG.

And then expects the rank and file to blindly defend a totally unknown nominee from completely indefensible charges of cronyism.

And when exactly did he ask anyone to 'blindly defend' him from anything, moron?

Just keep foaming at the mouth, the hearings will tell the tale.


Oh wait, according to you, he's going to pull the nomination by the end of the week. :twisted:

[rozy]

(since Bush is not going to withdraw her)?

She won't last the week.

Concur

Pure, unadulterated setup

[Risa]

(since Bush is not going to withdraw her)?

She won't last the week.

Concur

Pure, unadulterated setup

damn. talk about wishful thinking taken to the extreme.

why would Bush do that? to his own personal attorney?

occam's razor, man. he honestly believes it when he
says harriet has the credentials, and to trust him.
this is not a test, it is not some grandiose rube goldstein (?)
mousetrap against democrats. this is not a plot.

he wants her on the supreme court. he has trust issues.
he trusts her with himself because of his DUI and whatever
was going on with his (lack of) service during vietnam
and in the gulf war.

it's not about the american people. it's not about the constitution.
it's about him. he wants someone on the court who will do things
his way, the family way. no one else matters. he knows what's best

trust him.


no way he holds the woman who backed him so often, and refers
to him as the most intelligent man she knows, to the fire like that.

occam's razor.


but the insistence that this is some plot is intriguing by itself.

just face it, man. this is real. he is not going to withdraw her name.

[Risa]

how come both conservatives and liberals are going 'jaw hitting the floor' over this assessment written by george will? ;)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 54_pf.html

Can This Nomination Be Justified?

By George F. Will
Wednesday, October 5, 2005; A23



Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.

It is not important that she be confirmed because there is no evidence that she is among the leading lights of American jurisprudence, or that she possesses talents commensurate with the Supreme Court's tasks. The president's "argument" for her amounts to: Trust me. There is no reason to, for several reasons.

He has neither the inclination nor the ability to make sophisticated judgments about competing approaches to construing the Constitution. Few presidents acquire such abilities in the course of their pre-presidential careers, and this president particularly is not disposed to such reflections.

Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that Miers's nomination resulted from the president's careful consultation with people capable of such judgments. If 100 such people had been asked to list 100 individuals who have given evidence of the reflectiveness and excellence requisite in a justice, Miers's name probably would not have appeared in any of the 10,000 places on those lists.

In addition, the president has forfeited his right to be trusted as a custodian of the Constitution. The forfeiture occurred March 27, 2002, when, in a private act betokening an uneasy conscience, he signed the McCain-Feingold law expanding government regulation of the timing, quantity and content of political speech. The day before the 2000 Iowa caucuses he was asked -- to ensure a considered response from him, he had been told in advance that he would be asked -- whether McCain-Feingold's core purposes are unconstitutional. He unhesitatingly said, "I agree." Asked if he thought presidents have a duty, pursuant to their oath to defend the Constitution, to make an independent judgment about the constitutionality of bills and to veto those he thinks unconstitutional, he briskly said, "I do."

It is important that Miers not be confirmed unless, in her 61st year, she suddenly and unexpectedly is found to have hitherto undisclosed interests and talents pertinent to the court's role. Otherwise the sound principle of substantial deference to a president's choice of judicial nominees will dissolve into a rationalization for senatorial abdication of the duty to hold presidents to some standards of seriousness that will prevent them from reducing the Supreme Court to a private plaything useful for fulfilling whims on behalf of friends.

The wisdom of presumptive opposition to Miers's confirmation flows from the fact that constitutional reasoning is a talent -- a skill acquired, as intellectual skills are, by years of practice sustained by intense interest. It is not usually acquired in the normal course of even a fine lawyer's career. The burden is on Miers to demonstrate such talents, and on senators to compel such a demonstration or reject the nomination.

Under the rubric of "diversity" -- nowadays, the first refuge of intellectually disreputable impulses -- the president announced, surely without fathoming the implications, his belief in identity politics and its tawdry corollary, the idea of categorical representation. Identity politics holds that one's essential attributes are genetic, biological, ethnic or chromosomal -- that one's nature and understanding are decisively shaped by race, ethnicity or gender. Categorical representation holds that the interests of a group can be understood, empathized with and represented only by a member of that group.

The crowning absurdity of the president's wallowing in such nonsense is the obvious assumption that the Supreme Court is, like a legislature, an institution of representation. This from a president who, introducing Miers, deplored judges who "legislate from the bench."

Minutes after the president announced the nomination of his friend from Texas, another Texas friend, Robert Jordan, former ambassador to Saudi Arabia, was on Fox News proclaiming what he and, no doubt, the White House that probably enlisted him for advocacy, considered glad and relevant tidings: Miers, Jordan said, has been a victim. She has been, he said contentedly, "discriminated against" because of her gender.

Her victimization was not so severe that it prevented her from becoming the first female president of a Texas law firm as large as hers, president of the State Bar of Texas and a senior White House official. Still, playing the victim card clarified, as much as anything has so far done, her credentials, which are her chromosomes and their supposedly painful consequences. For this we need a conservative president?

georgewill@washpost.com

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

all i can say is.


daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyummmmmmm.

[Tom In VA]

She won't last the week.

Concur

Pure, unadulterated setup

damn. talk about wishful thinking taken to the extreme.

why would Bush do that? to his own personal attorney?

Because he can. And because she's loyal enough to let him.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least that she's a willing participant in this game.

[BSmack]

Well that should be enough to qualify her nomination.

So is it true that she was supporting gay rights as far back as 1989, 16 years ago?
It would explain why she never married.

Don't get your hopes up for moving to the US. In the same questionare Miers also supported Texas' anti-sodomy laws.

[Risa]

no commentary, just picking stuff up from

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/5/202146/484

which references

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1497299/posts

who quotes Our Lady, Ann Coulter, from

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46682:

This is what 'advice
and consent' means

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 5, 2005
7:02 p.m. Eastern


© 2005 Ann Coulter


I eagerly await the announcement of President Bush's real nominee to the Supreme Court. If the president meant Harriet Miers seriously, I have to assume Bush wants to go back to Crawford and let Dick Cheney run the country.

Unfortunately for Bush, he could nominate his Scottish terrier Barney, and some conservatives would rush to defend him, claiming to be in possession of secret information convincing them that the pooch is a true conservative and listing Barney's many virtues – loyalty, courage, never jumps on the furniture ...

Harriet Miers went to Southern Methodist University Law School, which is not ranked at all by the serious law school reports and ranked No. 52 by US News and World Report. Her greatest legal accomplishment is being the first woman commissioner of the Texas Lottery.

I know conservatives have been trained to hate people who went to elite universities, and generally that's a good rule of thumb. But not when it comes to the Supreme Court.

First, Bush has no right to say "Trust me." He was elected to represent the American people, not to be dictator for eight years. Among the coalitions that elected Bush are people who have been laboring in the trenches for a quarter-century to change the legal order in America. While Bush was still boozing it up in the early '80s, Ed Meese, Antonin Scalia, Robert Bork and all the founders of the Federalist Society began creating a farm team of massive legal talent on the right.

To casually spurn the people who have been taking slings and arrows all these years and instead reward the former commissioner of the Texas Lottery with a Supreme Court appointment is like pinning a medal of honor on some flunky paper-pusher with a desk job at the Pentagon – or on John Kerry – while ignoring your infantrymen doing the fighting and dying.

Second, even if you take seriously William F. Buckley's line about preferring to be governed by the first 200 names in the Boston telephone book than by the Harvard faculty, the Supreme Court is not supposed to govern us. Being a Supreme Court justice ought to be a mind-numbingly tedious job suitable only for super-nerds trained in legal reasoning like John Roberts. Being on the Supreme Court isn't like winning a "Best Employee of the Month" award. It's a real job.

One website defending Bush's choice of a graduate from an undistinguished law school complains that Miers' critics "are playing the Democrats' game," claiming that the "GOP is not the party which idolizes Ivy League acceptability as the criterion of intellectual and mental fitness." (In the sort of error that results from trying to sound "Ivy League" rather than being clear, that sentence uses the grammatically incorrect "which" instead of "that." Websites defending the academically mediocre would be a lot more convincing without all the grammatical errors.)

Actually, all the intellectual firepower in the law is coming from conservatives right now – and thanks for noticing! Liberals got stuck trying to explain Roe v. Wade and are still at work 30 years later trying to come up with a good argument.

But the main point is: Au contraire! It is conservatives defending Miers' mediocre resume who are playing the Democrats' game. Contrary to recent practice, the job of being a Supreme Court justice is not to be a philosopher-king. Only someone who buys into the liberals' view of Supreme Court justices as philosopher-kings could hold legal training irrelevant to a job on the Supreme Court.

To be sure, if we were looking for philosopher-kings, an SMU law grad would probably be preferable to a graduate from an elite law school. But if we're looking for lawyers with giant brains to memorize obscure legal cases and to compose clearly reasoned opinions about ERISA pre-emption, the doctrine of equivalents in patent law, limitation of liability in admiralty, and supplemental jurisdiction under Section 1367 – I think we want the nerd from an elite law school. Bush may as well appoint his chauffeur head of NASA as put Miers on the Supreme Court.

Third and finally, some jobs are so dirty, you can only send in someone who has the finely honed hatred of liberals acquired at elite universities to do them. The devil is an abstraction for normal, decent Americans living in the red states. By contrast, at the top universities, you come face to face with the devil every day, and you learn all his little tropes and tricks.

Conservatives from elite schools have already been subjected to liberal blandishments and haven't blinked. These are right-wingers who have fought off the best and the brightest the blue states have to offer. The New York Times isn't going to mau-mau them – as it does intellectual lightweights like Jim Jeffords and Lincoln Chafee – by dangling fawning profiles before them. They aren't waiting for a pat on the head from Nina Totenberg or Linda Greenhouse. To paraphrase Archie Bunker, when you find a conservative from an elite law school, you've really got something.

However nice, helpful, prompt and tidy she is, Harriet Miers isn't qualified to play a Supreme Court justice on "The West Wing," let alone to be a real one. Both Republicans and Democrats should be alarmed that Bush seems to believe his power to appoint judges is absolute. This is what "advice and consent" means.

[Risa]

Because he can. And because she's loyal enough to let him.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least that she's a willing participant in this game.

Degenerate said, in an early page, that that was a mighty risky game of chicken to play. And I believe him. You don't do that in politics. Besides, the head democrats WANTED her. What happens when she wins?

And that's the root of why the 'bush didn't really mean it' shit doesn't stand up in daylight. Nobody is stupid enough to fuck over their base... unless their base is vastly different in reality from those who count themselves among it.

This isn't chicken that's being played. This was an honest nomination from Bush. It's time to face facts.. there was no byzantine borgia plot, it was just an honest bit of cronyism that blew up in Bush' face.


and what's this about Rove suddenly being ghost around Washington? what's about to come down on him that he's not being allowed to be 'seen' at certain public functions he's always attended?

[Tom In VA]

I never contended this wasn't a serious nomination.

You asked why he'd do something. I proposed an answer.


Your question:
"why would Bush do that? to his own personal attorney?"

And my answer.


I don't see what all the hullaballoo is, she hasn't been confirmed. She's going to get grilled, as she should be, and if she doesn't pass muster ... she's out.

Let the process work.

[Risa]

if you're talking to me (which you probably arent), i meant that for rozy.

[Risa]

unconfirmed, but

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/6/171329/154

She helped put her brother through med school (none / 0)

She grew up in Dallas. Her father suffered a severe stroke when she was in undergraduate school at SMU and she almost had to drop out of college. Article here. SMU put together scholarships, work study etc. to keep her in school. She is reputedly extremely devoted to her mother, flying back to Dallas to see her every weekend even now. She helped put her younger brother through med school.
Don't know if that explains her lack of a large fortune, but it may be part of it. It may also explain why she went to SMU for law school, wanting to stay closer to home to help her mother care for disabled father, SMU was willing to help with financial aid, etc.

I'm having a hard time seeing her on the SCOTUS -- largely because of her too-close ties to Bush. But the viscious attacks on her education, character, eyeliner, etc. --- just seem really mean-spirited.

this woman has the makings of a good person* :( if this is true, about what she's done for her brothers, and her mom. and she wasn't a domineering bitch at the same time.

how did she get sucked into the Dark Side with the Bush Mafia?


*unless the plagiarism charge is true...

[Diogenes]

So is it the end of the week yet, losers?

[Risa]

So is it the end of the week yet, losers?

some of us can't wind down just because it's friday.



he looks like he needs a nice weekend off to
snuggle up to the oiled up man-boy marine
of his choice.

[Diogenes]

And exactly what does your pathetic obsession with Karl the Terrible have to do with anything?

[Risa]

And exactly what does your pathetic obsession with Karl the Terrible have to do with anything?

you asked if it was the end of the week.
he's giving some testimony to some
grand jury regarding the plame situation
this morning.

your question reminded me of his situation,
that's all.

[Diogenes]

For the dimwitted...

She won't last the week

[Mikey]

For the dimwitted...

She won't last the week

There's still half of today left.

[Diogenes]

Cool.


I'll be on pins and needles until close of buisness EST.



Okay, not really.

[BSmack]

(since Bush is not going to withdraw her)?

She won't last the week.

Nice job Kreskin. Any other lead pipe locks you want to share?

[BSmack]

I apologize for crediting Bush with having half a brain. It would appear that he is making do with considerably less than that. It won't happen again. He's a medical marvel, if nothing else.

When I first got out of college I worked for a while at a law office. The oldest son of the senior partner reminded me a lot of Bush. He was a nice enough guy in person, but he carried with him an extreme sense of entitlement that probably had a lot to do with daddy setting him up with his own mortgage brokerage firm right out of college. People who have that sense that their success/power is a right of birth become very befuddled when others challenge that sense of entitlement.

[fix]

(since Bush is not going to withdraw her)?

She won't last the week.

Nice job Kreskin. Any other lead pipe locks you want to share?

mvscal was only off by 3 weeks.



Miers just bailed out from Bush's sinking ship

[Felix]

That's what that dumbass gets for not listening to me in the first place.

Note to DrDimwit--You see, now this is funny..........