Sports Illustrated - 5 Teams That Could Beat USC

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:55 pm

shouldn't this belong in the NFL Forum??
:wink:

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:31 pm

cal, michigan state, iowa.....

who am i missing?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:32 pm

95 Nebraska

Mr T · Post by **Mr T** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:35 pm

King Crimson wrote: who am i missing?

Urban Meyer?

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:45 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:95 Nebraska

I laughed.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:56 pm

NFC East

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:01 pm

Michigan State, at season's end. No one will be playing better ball at that time.

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:01 pm

1.Cal
2.Texas
3.Notre Dame
4.Alabama
5.Virginia Tech

m2

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:13 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Michigan State, at season's end. No one will be playing better ball at that time.

If USC makes it to the title game unscathed you can bet your ass nobody will be playing better ball come bowl season...

In the Rose Bowl they'll kill anybody they face.

peter dragon · Post by **peter dragon** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:40 pm

Van wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:95 Nebraska
I laughed.

me 2

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:31 pm

quacker backer wrote:shouldn't this belong in the NFL Forum??
:wink:

Fuck no.....anyone who even begins to think that USC would score once(besides some freak play) is crazy. NFL teams would destroy USC. Players would be snapped in half. It is not even up for a discussion.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:39 pm

Dunno about "snapped in half", considering a few of USC's players are better than their counterparts on teams like the Texans.

In fact, some of SC's players will be taking line up spots next year from current NFL players so while USC would definitely lose most of the time to a team like Houston or SF they'd occasionally be semi competitive and they'd probably pull a game out here and there.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:54 pm

Van wrote:Dunno about "snapped in half", considering a few of USC's players are better than their counterparts on teams like the Texans.

In fact, some of SC's players will be taking line up spots next year from current NFL players so while USC would definitely lose most of the time to a team like Houston or SF they'd occasionally be semi competitive and they'd probably pull a game out here and there.

They would NEVER EVER win a game or come close.

Your own statement is flawed. While USC may have a sprinkle of players better(4 or 5 MAX out of 22 starters) the other players would dominate. You fail to metion that. The NFL is made up of the cream of the crop and while SC recruits well; they contribute a small portion of the overall talent pool. The d-line and o-line would collapse SC's every single play. It is very rare for a rookie o-lineman to play, let alone play well. Leinert? Besides Roths. last year, what rookie QBs play well? Peyton struggled his first year.

I cannot even belive you sais they would win a game. No way no how.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:28 am

5 teams that could be USC?

You're talking about the Gamecocks, right?

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:18 am

T REX wrote:They would NEVER EVER win a game or come close.

Rack Trix for the breakdown.

While the Condoms are one of CFB nastiest teams evah, they'd be severly overmatched against any team in the NFL and loose 11 out of every ten games they played.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, mind you, but there's a reason guys like Pete and Ball Coach came back to the college game.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:49 am

USC v. any NFL team would be like Sharapova v. Federer.

It'd be a complete beatdown EVERY time out.

Levels of the game.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:00 am

T REX wrote:
They would NEVER EVER win a game or come close.

Your own statement is flawed. While USC may have a sprinkle of players better(4 or 5 MAX out of 22 starters) the other players would dominate. You fail to metion that. The NFL is made up of the cream of the crop and while SC recruits well; they contribute a small portion of the overall talent pool. The d-line and o-line would collapse SC's every single play. It is very rare for a rookie o-lineman to play, let alone play well. Leinert? Besides Roths. last year, what rookie QBs play well? Peyton struggled his first year.

I cannot even belive you sais they would win a game. No way no how.

Rack T REX's best take in months.

You hear this argument every few years, and it's just ridiculous - such-and-such college team could beat one of the shitty pro teams. There is no way in hell it would ever happen in football. I might entertain the argument that a truly great CBB team (like that UNLV team of the early 90s) might be able to take 1 of 10 from the worst NBA team. But it would never happen in football. The differences in size and speed would be overwhelming. USC could play 100 games each against SF, Arizona, and Houston, all of them at the Coliseum, and they'd be 0-300 when it was all said and done.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:08 am

mike: Do you mean the UNLV team that took a dive to dook that very next year.....all five played in the NBA. I think they lost on purpose 79-77 in 1991. That game was definitely fixed....alledgedly.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:35 pm

I agree it'd be a rare win but the argument of size and speed doesn't necessarily hold true in each and every instance. There are the occasional NFL offensive and defensive lines that are not bigger than some college lines.

Also, there are the occasional NFL squads whose skill position players really aren't all that great, and certainly aren't better than some of the future All Pros playing in college.

Some NFL teams are in a complete shambles; poorly coached, poor drafts, poor talent overall.

It's been quite a while since they've done it but the NFL title winner used to be matched up against college all star teams and the games were not always blow outs and if memory serves the college all stars even won once or twice. And that's just a group of thrown together all stars, not a cohesive, smooth running team, and that was against the title winner, not the absolute doormat of the NFL.

Federer vs Sharapova? Hardly. Sharapova could play for a thousand more years and she'll never have the physical tools to play against Federer. Meanwhile, guys like Carson Palmer and Mike Williams and Troy Palomalu (sp?) are often times already better than many of their pro counterparts whose jobs they'll be taking a scant six months later, and they're playing on a team and in a system that's running smoothly.

Again, it'd be a rare win, but oh for 300? Nah. There are NFL teams in given years that are in such a shambles and are so lacking in overall talent that some of the very best college squads could beat 'em once every blue moon...

Rack Fu · Post by **Rack Fu** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:55 pm

As horrible as the Texans are as an NFL team, they'd conservatively beat USC 50-0.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:27 pm

Van wrote:I agree it'd be a rare win but the argument of size and speed doesn't necessarily hold true in each and every instance. There are the occasional NFL offensive and defensive lines that are not bigger than some college lines.

Size, speed, and TECHNIQUE. If you don't think that NFL players have bags more tricks than college players as well as familiarity of the defenses, stunts, execution, blocking schemes. etc.....its not even close!

Also, there are the occasional NFL squads whose skill position players really aren't all that great, and certainly aren't better than some of the future All Pros playing in college.

Pure opinion. I'm going with the front offices around the NFL. Do you know what it takes to make a NFL roster? How many FIRST and SECOND rounders end up busts? A lot. The fact remains that Lendale and Buch could be busts as well as a myriad of USC players. Hell, Leinert could be a bust.

Some NFL teams are in a complete shambles; poorly coached, poor drafts, poor talent overall.

It's been quite a while since they've done it but the NFL title winner used to be matched up against college all star teams and the games were not always blow outs and if memory serves the college all stars even won once or twice. And that's just a group of thrown together all stars, not a cohesive, smooth running team, and that was against the title winner, not the absolute doormat of the NFL.

College all-stars(remember they were beat and beat often). You fuck yourself right there. How many positions would USC grab off of a college all-star team that pulls from 117 D-IA schools? Sorry dude, but you can't be serious. USC might get 3-5 players max. Then you have to fill out the rest of the starters with USC players that don't have the talent to play in the NFL. So, now you are going to try to claim that leinart or bush have the talent to CARRY USC to a win vs a NFL team by themselves? BULL-FUCKING-SHIT! [/quote]

Federer vs Sharapova? Hardly. Sharapova could play for a thousand more years and she'll never have the physical tools to play against Federer. Meanwhile, guys like Carson Palmer and Mike Williams and Troy Palomalu (sp?) are often times already better than many of their pro counterparts whose jobs they'll be taking a scant six months later, and they're playing on a team and in a system that's running smoothly.

Did you say Carson Palmer? Dude sat for 1.5 years before seeing the field and you throw his name out there? Yeah, he was so good and so ready that they MADE him ride the bench for the most of two years. You are kidding right?

Again, it'd be a rare win, but oh for 300? Nah. There are NFL teams in given years that are in such a shambles and are so lacking in overall talent that some of the very best college squads could beat 'em once every blue moon...

Blue moon? Never. Your biggest flaw continues to be the assumption that your USC boys will even make it in the NFL. A real stretch considering the amount of players that just don't make it. NFL players have made it, have proven they belong and for you to assume that because USC is great in college that they even haved a chance at the next level is stupid and obtuse.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:57 pm

Now that's an argument with teeth.

Rack Trix again.

Nolesy · Post by **Nolesy** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:04 pm

Trex, I'm glad to see you applying that free advice I gave you

Now if you can only lay off of that sec stuff :wink:

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:07 pm

I think Bush and White could probably start in the NFL right now. Any other USC player, Leinart included, would most likely be a backup, if anything. If they came within 3 TDs of an NFL team, it'd be a miracle.

Van,
You have to realize that no matter how good SC's best 4 or 5 players are, the majority of their team will never even play a down in the NFL. Even the worst players in the NFL were studs in college. I would even go so far as to say that Pete Caroll could hand select an all-crap team of the worst players on all active NFL rosters, and SC would be lucky to win 1 of 10 against that team.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:14 am

You're getting a little too hung up on who starts in the NFL and when they start and all these mythical talent based arguments...

Carson Palmer could've easily started his rookie year. He didn't only because Cincinnati had the luxury of letting Palmer carry a clipboard for a year to learn their sytem.

Remember...their system. A whole new system. If he were still playing under Chow and Carroll at USC he would've been fully comfortable and able to perform to the level of his talent, as would all the other players on the team.

Huge difference.

Football is still a team game and an emotional game, which is why you occasionally see incredible underdogs pull off incredible upsets.

On an individual basis of course no college team could stock an NFL roster, but then again some of the very worst expansion era NFL teams are stocked with players that are only in the NFL due to expansion. Many of those players really aren't NFL caliber players, at least not to a degree where there's some huge chasm between their ability and that of many a college player.

Combine their sometimes wholly average talent with poor coaching, poor motivation and a general lack of team cohesion and on any given day some of these teams would be ripe for the picking.

Yeah, a well coached and smoothly running cohesive team that also has a few seriously talented players at key positions could hang in there now and then and with a few fortunate bounces they could win one every so often.

All Star teams that are quickly thrown together and have no chemistry and no cohesion are almost never going to do as well as a solid team that plays well together, and still some of those college All Star teams gave the NFL champions the occasional decent game. Again, they might've even won one or two...

You people seem to forget that the better talent and the better team doesn't always win. Let two teams play each other enough times and the mystique of the NFL player will soon wear off as the college guys realize many of 'em are really no better than they are and some of 'em aren't nearly as good as Reggie Bush and Troy Palomalu and some of their other teammates that'll be NFL players anyway in just a few more months.

300 wins in a row? A dogshit, dispirited doormat NFL team?

Fuck no. The more they played each other the more the perception chasm between the two teams would shrink and it wouldn't be too long before the NFL team's number would be up and a game would get away from 'em...

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:30 am

hey van, shut your cocksuckin trap, forget about the NFL, 95 nebraska would sodomize usc, after watching usc needing the officials to put back time on the clock, IT BECAME VERY CLEAR,
usc would be totally humiliated by 95 nebraska,
case closed,

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:41 am

I am now of the opinion that Texas would lay the wood on USC. The Texas Dbs are light years better than anything USC has faced. The Texas run defense is huge between the tackles and lightning quick sideline to sideline.

USC has not faced a team that can both run and pass like Texas can. I don't mean a team that has a QB that can throw or a runningback that can run but a Oline that will blow their dline off the ball. A QB that can score a touchdown from any where on the field with either his arm or his legs. And a offense that can match their offense weapon per weapon.

Right now USC is the only team that could stay within 2 touchdowns of Texas.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:52 am

Again, if USC gets to the Rose Bowl unscathed they're going to destroy Texas. Playing in the Big XII against an entire conference of offensive short bussers, Texas wouldn't have the slightest idea of how to defend USC in a bowl game.

This year's Texas team is no better than last year's OU team. Last year's SC team also had a couple/few regular season nail biters. That's the regular season though. Despite those regular season nail biters we all knew how last year's national title game was going to turn out...and so it did.

A national title game in L.A., a game where they have weeks to prepare, a game played before the entire nation for all the marbles, including an unprecedented third straight national title?

It'll be just like every other recent USC bowl game: A USC blow out.

USC may not even get there though. I'm far more worried about their regular season games than their bowl game, if it's the national title game. USC was far more likely to lose to ND and they're more likely to lose to Cal or UCLA.

If they get through their remaining games they're simply going to take one final deep breath and then crush anybody they play in the national title game.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:06 am

its funny really, for all your posturing, all your talk about how tough usc is, paragraph after paragraph about the great usc, AND YET,
95 NU would do unspeakable heinous acts to them, ITS AMAZING REALLY, usc is really great, HOWEVER, against the ALL TIME greatness of 95 NU, usc is nothing more than romper room, or sesame street, this really puts things into big time perspective,
doesnt it?

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:10 am

Van wrote:Again, if USC gets to the Rose Bowl unscathed they're going to destroy Texas. Playing in the Big XII against an entire conference of offensive short bussers, Texas wouldn't have the slightest idea of how to defend USC in a bowl game.

This year's Texas team is no better than last year's OU team. Last year's SC team also had a couple/few regular season nail biters. That's the regular season though. Despite those regular season nail biters we all knew how last year's national title game was going to turn out...and so it did.

A national title game in L.A., a game where they have weeks to prepare, a game played before the entire nation for all the marbles, including an unprecedented third straight national title?

It'll be just like every other recent USC bowl game: A USC blow out.

USC may not even get there though. I'm far more worried about their regular season games than their bowl game, if it's the national title game. USC was far more likely to lose to ND and they're more likely to lose to Cal or UCLA.

If they get through their remaining games they're simply going to take one final deep breath and then crush anybody they play in the national title game.

And the winner of the Jeff Specoli sports knowledge award goes to Van.

The only thing Texas has in common with blOwU is the conference.
maybe you should actually watch football rather than just listen to talking heads and regurg their bad schick.

I won't go into how the Texas defense can shut down any offense in the country. I will just say that man for man Texas can match USC in Speed and skill players. I haven't seen anything about USC that makes me think they have the defense to stop Texas.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:23 am

i've seen UT play the last 3 weeks and i'm starting to believe more and more.

Jamaal Charles didn't even play today--except whatever the first series. they could have scored 70 on Colorado today if they wanted to.

now, it's true the Big XII is very weak this year....so, it's hard to say.

if there is a UT-SC matchup, SC will not have seen anything in the pac-10 to prepare them for Young. i also think the turnover in coaching staff/coordinators may bite SC in the ass sometime this year--possibly in the BCS.

the other thing UT doesn't have in common in with OU is that OU has won 4 MNC's since my birth, UT has won exactly none.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:19 pm

Vito, at this time last year everybody was saying the exact same thing about OU that you're saying now about Texas.

OU had a returning Heisman QB plus Adrian Peterson and a suppsedly incredible defense loaded with unmatched speed. They were straight up rolling everybody in their path, and they shut out the same basic Texas squad that's on the field now, 'cept that Texas squad also had Cedric Benson, who's better than anybody Texas has now.

Same ol', same ol'...

Btw, Vito, no, man for man Texas cannot match USC for skill players.

Vince Young is a totally inept passer with all the passing touch of a pitchback net. He's a college "QB" who'll likely never even make it into the NFL as a QB. He's making his living on the backs of awful Big XII teams that are completely overmatched by Texas.

Vince Young sure as hell can't touch Leinart for skill, poise and downright balls as a QB. When in doubt, Young will take off with the ball or he'll just throw it up.

He will lose you the big game.

Also, Texas doesn't have a single guy on their team who can touch Reggie Bush as a skill position player. Then again, no one does. Reggie Bush is the best skill position player in America.

No Texas receiver can touch Dwayne Jarrett or Steve Smith either.

Moreover, Texas has a Texas mindset. They know they're just Texas, and they're coached by Hack Brown, and that they can and will be beaten if push comes to shove. USC is at a point now where they've proven beyond any shadow of a doubt to themselves that they simply won't be beaten.

Doesn't matter how they play, they'll keep their composure and Leinart, Bush, White and company will come up with the plays needed to win. If they get to the national title game with no losses they'll simply be unbeatable.

Meanwhile, the first time Vince Young burps up another overthrown howitzer for a pick that leads to another Reggie Bush score the Longhorns offense is going to come down with a severe case of, "Oh shit! They're USC, and this is the Rose Bowl, and we can't throw the ball!" and then they'll go straight into the tank on their way to the inevitable four td shellacking.

Bank on it.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:32 pm

Van wrote:Vito, at this time last year everybody was saying the exact same thing about OU that you're saying now about Texas.

The difference is that Texas isn't getting lit up in the passing game like OU was all last season. Texas has the best defensive backfield in College football according to NFL scouts. USC isn't going to throw all over us nor will they run all over the Texas defense.

OU had a returning Heisman QB plus Adrian Peterson and a suppsedly incredible defense loaded with unmatched speed. They were straight up rolling everybody in their path, and they shut out the same basic Texas squad that's on the field now, 'cept that Texas squad also had Cedric Benson, who's better than anybody Texas has now.

The OU defense was great at stopping the run and getting to the QB not stopping the pass. And they haven't been the same defense since baby stoops left.
The OU offense was a good run team and a good pass team but Texas has something they don't have. A QB that can make something positive happen when the called play breaks down. Vince Young can run on any defense in the country (excpet tOSu). That is what makes the Texas offense so deadly and better than blOwUs last year.

Same ol', same ol'...

Btw, Vito, no, man for man Texas cannot match USC for skill players.

Vince Young is a totally inept passer with all the passing touch of a pitchback net. He's a college "QB" who'll likely never even make it into the NFL as a QB. He's making his living on the backs of awful Big XII teams that are completely overmatched by Texas.

Vince Young sure as hell can't touch Leinart for skill, poise and downright balls as a QB. When in doubt, Young will take off with the ball or he'll just throw it up.

He will lose you the big game.

Texas is sporting the best Oline in the country with all 5 linemen grading out to NFL quality and 2 likely going in the 1st round. The Texas receiving corp sports so many great athletes that we have 5-star guys that can't even get on the field. Texas sports a running game that is the #1 in the nation.

Also, Texas doesn't have a single guy on their team who can touch Reggie Bush as a skill position player. Then again, no one does. Reggie Bush is the best skill position player in America.

No Texas receiver can touch Dwayne Jarrett or Steve Smith either.

You really don't know shit about college football. I don't want to rain on your wet dream but your in for a rude awakening when you finally get a chance to see Jamaal Charles, Romonce Taylor, Billy Pittman, David Thomas and Limus Sweed take the field.

Moreover, Texas has a Texas mindset. They know they're just Texas, and they're coached by Hack Brown, and that they can and will be beaten if push comes to shove. USC is at a point now where they've proven beyond any shadow of a doubt to themselves that they simply won't be beaten.

Doesn't matter how they play, they'll keep their composure and Leinart, Bush, White and company will come up with the plays needed to win. If they get to the national title game with no losses they'll simply be unbeatable.

Meanwhile, the first time Vince Young burps up another overthrown howitzer for a pick that leads to another Reggie Bush score the Longhorns offense is going to come down with a severe case of, "Oh shit! They're USC, and this is the Rose Bowl, and we can't throw the ball!" and then they'll go straight into the tank on their way to the inevitable four td shellacking.

Bank on it.

The Texas mindset? As opposed to the SoCal entitlist mindset that prevails in every sport imaginible. Vince Young has already faced a better defense than USC possesses in Ohio State. The Texas defense faces athletes every day that are as fast as the ones USC possesses.

Here is what Texas has that USC has not seen before.

1. A QB that can kill you with his arm or his legs.
2. An offensive line as physical and overpowering as ours.
3. A defensive line that will control the LOS and put more pressure on Leinart than he has ever seen.
4. The Best DC in college football

I want to know what USC is going to do when they are down by 3 TDs and facing a Gene Chizik defense that actually can match your offense man for man.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:19 pm

Vito, of course you want to know, but what you'll be forced to find out instead is what your defense does when the rude realization hits them that they're figuratively and literally not in Kansas anymore and that Ohio State's offense couldn't match USC's second string offense.

Playing nothing but a weak two loss OSU squad and a bunch of useless scrubs in the Big XII Texas hasn't even been slightly tested this season, much less tested by anything resembling the explosive power USC will bring to bear in a national title bowl game situation.

What, you think beating up on Colorado in Austin in any way gives you a proper handicapping perspective of what the Texas D will be able to do when confronted with a fully prepared USC offense playing in the Rose Bowl?

I hate to go to the name calling card, as seems your wont, but you might truly be an idiot.

You know, I've been rooting for anybody to get into the title game but Texas, as the last thing college football needs is yet another undeserving Big XII team getting the nod over a more deserving team from another conference, but fuck it.

Screw what's right. Screw what's best for dismantling this horrid BCS system.

Bring on the Longpatsies, and let the nation once again give witness to yet another thorough dismantling of yet another paper tiger from the Big XII. I'm going to root for Texas to get there, just so I can enjoy your inevitable post slaughter whining about how it wasn't Texas's fault, it was Hack Brown's fault for being so thoroughly outcoached.

Vito wrote:Sure, instead of losing 44-13, Texas would've beaten USC, if only Hack:

-Hadn't abandoned the running game too early. We rushed for 107 yards (nevermind that 63 of 'em were on broken play scrambles), we HAD em!

-For the love of gawd, maybe Brown might've tried to actually cover Reggie Bush out of the backfield every once in a while!

-Knocked Jarrett off his route right at the line of scrimmage, rather than letting him roam freely downfield. A monkey should've seen that!

-Fuck, would've it killed Brown to've maybe left in a back to help protect Young against those fucking weakside blitzes?? Any moron saw those coming! We didn't have to have those two fumbles! Fuck!!

-Christ, you dunce, how many times did Leinart have to burn you with those check off audibles before you were gonna stop blitzing us into oblivion?? Couldn't you see that with his poise and passing touch he was just hoping you'd keep blitzing him?? Our D would've sacked up and killed SC's line, straight up, if only you woulda let 'em!

-Okay, I guess that Lendale White guy is pretty good though. Can't blame Brown's "schemes" for what that guy did to us. Can't stop everything, I guess...

-I'll say it again: We need a real coach. We had the talent to win. No way we shoulda lost like that.

-Here's my obligatory stab at sacking up and showing some class: Congrats, pussy SC fans. Thanks to our coach (and no thanks to your players) you guys were the better team today. :roll:

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:44 am

Van....I disagree with everything you say except having another Big 12 lamb for USC.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:52 am

Yawn

Your smack is tired. Do you really think playing an unathletic overrated Irish team is equal to facing the most athletic team in the country.

NFL scout Chris Laundry calls the Texas secondary the best in the country with 5 legit NFL quality DBs. And frankly the secondary is not the strength of the defense, that would be the Dline where they likely have the best DT in the country in Rod Wright, (well he is expected to be the first DT taken in the coming draft) Larry Dibbles another NFL quality DT and Frank Okam who in a couple of years might be the best to play for Texas. The Texas DTs have been so dominate that most teams we have played have chosen to not even run the ball up the middle. Our linebackers are fast and physical. Frank.y, the closest defense I have seen to the Texas defense is the 95 Nebraska defense or the 92 Alabama defense.

If I ventured to guess what you would say after Texas beats USC, what the hell am I talking about, all I have to do is go to lakerground.net and just read all the conspiracy theories as why the San Antonio Spurs are the NBA champs and the Lakers suck.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:59 am

Vito Corleone wrote:Yawn

Exactly.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:23 am

Vito Corleone wrote:Do you really think playing an unathletic overrated Irish team is equal to facing the most athletic team in the country.

USC faces the most athletic team in the country every day in practice.

Vito, let Texas win a big game sometime, somewhere, anywhere, then talk. Their only "big" win in recent memory was last year's win against a multiple loss Michigan team, and even in that game Texas hardly looked dominant.

USC would've destroyed 'em, same as they'll destroy 'em in this Rose Bowl.

Thing is, if either the ACC or the SEC champ should finish with an identical record to Texas then it'll be a moot point anyway since Texas won't even make it to the big dance.

You'd best hope Va Tech and Georgia lose somewhere but it's definitely no sure thing that Va Tech won't run the table.

Vito Corleone · Post by **Vito Corleone** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:49 am

Texas never wins big games they only lose them. Michigan that wasn't a big win. Ohio State mean't nothing, now if Texas had lost those games then they would have been big.

The only time the RRR is big is when Texas loses. Even when we make it back to the Rose bowl and win, that will not be a big game either.

come back when you have a legit take that doesn't originate with "The Sporting news said:" or "ESPN Said:".

PrimeX · Post by **PrimeX** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:59 am

Vito Corleone wrote:Texas never wins big games they only lose them. Michigan that wasn't a big win. Ohio State mean't nothing, now if Texas had lost those games then they would have been big.

The only time the RRR is big is when Texas loses. Even when we make it back to the Rose bowl and win, that will not be a big game either.

come back when you have a legit take that doesn't originate with "The Sporting news said:" or "ESPN Said:".

El racko.

Could the "never win a big game" bloorfs get anymore tired?

:roll: